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Possible PTS Details?

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#1 MattofSteel

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 01:39 AM

http://www.hurriyetd...0&NewsCatID=381

Interesting. Who knows if it's true. Seems to be a lead, at the very least, on some of the 'train-related' stuff that was supposed to be in India/South Africa but was apparently scrapped. Have to say this bridge - while cool - doesn't quite match the splendour of some of those Konkan photos we saw.

But I'm sure, in the end, I won't care.

#2 Captain Tightpants

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 02:00 AM

The film’s producers, impressed by the story behind the bridge’s construction, will promote the bridge to the world by filming close shots and providing information about it in the film.

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#3 zencat

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 02:46 AM

Great find. Thanks.

#4 007jamesbond

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 08:29 AM

I am guessing they will be using the train as part of some stunt that was previously suggested?

#5 Pussfeller

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 08:56 AM

It seems like a fine substitute for the Konkani railway bridge. I can easily imagine henchmen plunging from this thing.

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#6 SecretAgentFan

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 09:13 AM

Looks great.

Just one question: Why is it supposed to feature in the PTS-sequence and not later in the film?

#7 Vauxhall

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 10:21 AM

I reckon this sounds legit.

Interesting detail that they seem to also be filming at Hagia Sophia in Istanbul and the area around Fethiye.

#8 PPK_19

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 10:34 AM

Great find MattofSteel.

However, it irks me somewhat when you see they referred to Skyfall as the '25th James Bond film'. Gutter journalism, no one includes CR and NSNA when talking about Bond.

Still, looks pretty legit!

Edited by PPK_19, 22 December 2011 - 10:44 AM.


#9 Luigi Ferrari

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 11:34 AM

Looks great.

Just one question: Why is it supposed to feature in the PTS-sequence and not later in the film?


The reason is that Ertugrul Günay, Turkish Culture and Tourism Minister,had revealed in September that the opening scene is planned to be filmed in Turkey:

http://www.bond23.ne...et-in-istanbul/

The opening scenes are planned to be filmed in Istanbul, but some other places will also be used outside Istanbul for the film. Such is the appeal of the series that many of the locations where Bond films have been filmed in the past have continued to attract Bond fans to visit many years down the line. The fact that the opening scene of the film will be made in Turkey will contribute to Turkish tourism. The ministry has been providing big support to the film sector for five years. We have made a concerted effort in the past five years to support the film sector and our aim continues to be to welcome international film crews to our country for filming.

It the producers have to promote the bridge providing information about it in the film, as it is reported in the article, this means that it will appear in Skyfall as a turkish bridge.

#10 Vauxhall

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 11:58 AM

The line about "providing information" on the bridge in the film caught my eye. I can't really imagine how they can do that within the plot without appearing incongruous, but we shall see, I guess!

#11 Captain Tightpants

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 12:14 PM

The line about "providing information" on the bridge in the film caught my eye. I can't really imagine how they can do that within the plot without appearing incongruous, but we shall see, I guess!

Maybe some kind of sabotage mission? If Bond and another agent (like Carter in CASINO ROYALE, but more competent) were on assignment to take out the bridge, then I think dialogue where Bond explains the construction of the bridge would naturally fit into the scene. For example, "This bridge was built by the Germans in 1912, Carter. The whole thing is built out of natural stone, and the spans are designed to spread the weight of a train out equally, so we're going to have to place the charges carefully. If we put them in the wrong spot, the bridge might survive long enough for a train to cross."

#12 SecretAgentFan

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 01:43 PM


Looks great.

Just one question: Why is it supposed to feature in the PTS-sequence and not later in the film?


The reason is that Ertugrul Günay, Turkish Culture and Tourism Minister,had revealed in September that the opening scene is planned to be filmed in Turkey:

http://www.bond23.ne...et-in-istanbul/

The opening scenes are planned to be filmed in Istanbul, but some other places will also be used outside Istanbul for the film. Such is the appeal of the series that many of the locations where Bond films have been filmed in the past have continued to attract Bond fans to visit many years down the line. The fact that the opening scene of the film will be made in Turkey will contribute to Turkish tourism. The ministry has been providing big support to the film sector for five years. We have made a concerted effort in the past five years to support the film sector and our aim continues to be to welcome international film crews to our country for filming.

It the producers have to promote the bridge providing information about it in the film, as it is reported in the article, this means that it will appear in Skyfall as a turkish bridge.


Thanks, Luigi!

#13 marktmurphy

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 01:59 PM

All seems pretty believable, really. I'll buy that!

#14 DominicGreene

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 01:05 PM

This reminds me of Michael Price's first draft of Goldeneye....

#15 The Shark

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 01:13 PM

Michael France?

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 01:15 PM


The line about "providing information" on the bridge in the film caught my eye. I can't really imagine how they can do that within the plot without appearing incongruous, but we shall see, I guess!

Maybe some kind of sabotage mission? If Bond and another agent (like Carter in CASINO ROYALE, but more competent) were on assignment to take out the bridge, then I think dialogue where Bond explains the construction of the bridge would naturally fit into the scene. For example, "This bridge was built by the Germans in 1912, Carter. The whole thing is built out of natural stone, and the spans are designed to spread the weight of a train out equally, so we're going to have to place the charges carefully. If we put them in the wrong spot, the bridge might survive long enough for a train to cross."


Yeah, that's about all I can think of without having it seem kind of out of nowhere.

Not quite so pretty as the Konkan, but still looks like a pretty great location and honestly once we're actually in the cinema is anyone going to give a damn?

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 09:20 PM

I'm betting the PTS = the one from Goldeneye first draft

#18 DominicGreene

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 09:25 PM

Michael France?


Yes, whoops :S

#19 Mr. Blofeld

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 09:32 PM

That PTS did not include a bridge, but a tunnel; might I suggest another look at it, then, eh? ;-)

#20 Luigi Ferrari

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 01:34 PM

http://www.hurriyetd...ID=383&NID=9984

"The opening scenes will take place in Istanbul’s Sultanahmet Square and Hagia Sophia and a further move will take the crew to the coastal town of Fethiye and the historic Varda Railway Bridge close to the southern city of Adana".

#21 Vauxhall

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 07:29 PM

Fantastic to get some detail on how the scene pans out. I'd like to see some good old espionage around Sultanahmet Square, with the second phase in southern Turkey having the bulk of the action. Would be nice to have something similar to the CASINO ROYALE pre-title sequence.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 09:38 PM

I'm hoping for another short pre-title sequence. Casino and Quantum were just right at about four to five minutes long. It was a nice break from the Brosnan films where they were getting up to the fifteen minute mark.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 10:09 PM

If this is to be believed, then I think it will unfold in two parts: the PTS in Istanbul, with the film proper beginning outside the city.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 10:47 PM

Hmmmm... a little like the original plan for TWINE, it sounds.

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 03:49 AM

I'm hoping for another short pre-title sequence. Casino and Quantum were just right at about four to five minutes long. It was a nice break from the Brosnan films where they were getting up to the fifteen minute mark.

Right? Went back and watched TWINE a month ago and it finally got to the opening credit sequence, and it actually took me by surprise. Felt like it was in the middle of the movie (I hadn't watched in in a long while).

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 03:52 AM

The original plan for TWINE had the PTS ending in Bilbao, with the film picking up again in London. Michael Apted thought this was too short, so added the London scenes in.

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 01:55 PM

The original plan for TWINE had the PTS ending in Bilbao, with the film picking up again in London. Michael Apted thought this was too short, so added the London scenes in.

And what a stupid, stupid decision that was. If the PTS ended in Bilbao, we would have one of the coolest Bond pre-titles ever.

#28 SecretAgentFan

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 03:55 PM

I don´t know. I do like that the PTS ends with Bond being hurt. Maybe they should have found a way to incorporate the banker scene in the London sequence to shorten that whole passage.

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 10:29 PM

I don´t know. I do like that the PTS ends with Bond being hurt. Maybe they should have found a way to incorporate the banker scene in the London sequence to shorten that whole passage.

End it with the explosion in MI6 and Bond being blown over by the force of the bomb.

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 01:07 AM

I always thought TWINE was a cracking PTS - a great action sequence, a neat twist on attacking MI6 and Bond getting injured - if they can pull something like this off for SF, without mirroring it obviously, I'll be very happy and engrossed!