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[univex]

Marcellus Wallace's soul?

Whatever it is, it's now in that little black box

It´s the Rabbit´s foot. Which reminds me of this story Hitchcock told Truffaut:

One man says "What's that package up there in the baggage rack?", and the other answers "Oh, that's a McGuffin". The first one asks "What's a McGuffin?". "Well", the other man says, "It's an apparatus for trapping lions in the Scottish Highlands". The first man says "But there are no lions in the Scottish Highlands", and the other one answers "Well, then that's no McGuffin!".

Whatever it is, I´m willing to bet it´s no McGuffin

[Captain Tightpants]

Just once, I'd like to see a character called "MacGuffin". There would be so many possibilities for fun with it ...

Bond: "What does he do?"
Q: "Who? MacGuffin? Oh, he does whatever we want him to."

[univex]

Just once, I'd like to see a character called "MacGuffin". There would be so many possibilities for fun with it ...

Bond: "What does he do?"
Q: "Who? MacGuffin? Oh, he does whatever we want him to."

I´d rather they´d kept it as inside joke, you know, just a random name for an extra we know nothing about and don´t need to, and not as a punchline written by P&W Given your usually brilliant ideas Cap, like that last one about the box (which I loved) that dialogue is simply...yo momma But hey, loved the Mr. MacGuffin idea

[Pussfeller]

"McGuffin" is hardly an inside joke. It's like the Wilhelm scream - a reference that used to be obscure and in-groupy, but which the Internet has completely vulgarized.

[Skudor]

Ah, the vulgar masses and their curious insistence on learning new things.

I'm going with Skyfall being an operation. It's almost too obviously based on Thunderball.

[007jamesbond]

Maybe Skyfall is a code name of a former British agent during the Cold War who is a sleeper agent who rise back from the grave....that comes back to haunt M?

[Vauxhall]

Think we've got confirmation! Plans for the Hankley Common set describe the location as... SKYFALL LODGE.



Guess the next question is really what the significance of Skyfall Lodge is that it merits the title of the film being taken from it. I recall someone suggesting that Skyfall may actually be both the Lodge and a past MI6 operation - and the latter was hatched at the former.

[Skudor]

Nice one. I think that theory has a pretty good ring to it.

[SecretAgentFan]

I´m looking forward to a great raid in the finale!

[bond 16.05.72]

It's the title of the new James Bond film I believe!

[Captain Tightpants]

I recall someone suggesting that Skyfall may actually be both the Lodge and a past MI6 operation - and the latter was hatched at the former.

I think that might have been me. My theory was, and still is, that "Skyfall" is an off-the-books operation run by M and several others (including Albert Finney, possibly Clair Dowar and at least a few of the eight dead agents) which was named for the place where it was conceived.

[Vauxhall]

I recall someone suggesting that Skyfall may actually be both the Lodge and a past MI6 operation - and the latter was hatched at the former.

I think that might have been me. My theory was, and still is, that "Skyfall" is an off-the-books operation run by M and several others (including Albert Finney, possibly Clair Dowar and at least a few of the eight dead agents) which was named for the place where it was conceived.

Great, thought it was probably you Captain, but couldn't find the exact post with a cursory search. I think you've got a very strong chance of being correct, especially as we're halfway there, now we have confirmation of Skyfall Lodge. I assume you agree that it would be very strange for them to name a movie simply after a building featured near the end, and there must be more to it than that.

[Leon]

Forgive me if I am displaying some obvious ignorance, but how do we know this building will actually be called "Skyfall Lodge" in the film? I saw the photo above of the plans - but it could surely just be the name on the plans? Ie, a lodge for the film Skyfall.

[Captain Tightpants]

I assume you agree that it would be very strange for them to name a movie simply after a building featured near the end, and there must be more to it than that.

I do, but it was actually Babs' comment about a physical and emotional context that sparked the thought in me. Skyfall Lodge is the physical location within the film, and the operation is the emotional context. I think that emotion will be guilt (felt by M) - an illegal operation during the Cold War that was either a disaster or involved doing despicable things, but an operation that was deemed to be a necessary evil at the time, and one that several people built their careers on. The emotion may also be fear, because if ever details of Operation Skyfall were released, it would ruin those involved.

[Vauxhall]

Forgive me if I am displaying some obvious ignorance, but how do we know this building will actually be called "Skyfall Lodge" in the film? I saw the photo above of the plans - but it could surely just be the name on the plans? Ie, a lodge for the film Skyfall.

The style of the phrasing on the plans, and on building materials, as 'Ext - Skyfall Lodge' fits nicely with the usual location naming conventions for recent Bond movies, as lifted directly from the scripts. Coupled with other things I've heard, I'm 95% sure it's the specific location name, rather than purely the name on the plans.

[Leon]

Forgive me if I am displaying some obvious ignorance, but how do we know this building will actually be called "Skyfall Lodge" in the film? I saw the photo above of the plans - but it could surely just be the name on the plans? Ie, a lodge for the film Skyfall.

The style of the phrasing on the plans, and on building materials, as 'Ext - Skyfall Lodge' fits nicely with the usual location naming conventions for recent Bond movies, as lifted directly from the scripts. Coupled with other things I've heard, I'm 95% sure it's the specific location name, rather than purely the name on the plans.

Ok, cheers Vaux! Certainly an interesting bit of info, perhapse inspired by the idea of Operation Goldeneye and Fleming's naming of his Jamaican house?

[Vauxhall]

Forgive me if I am displaying some obvious ignorance, but how do we know this building will actually be called "Skyfall Lodge" in the film? I saw the photo above of the plans - but it could surely just be the name on the plans? Ie, a lodge for the film Skyfall.

The style of the phrasing on the plans, and on building materials, as 'Ext - Skyfall Lodge' fits nicely with the usual location naming conventions for recent Bond movies, as lifted directly from the scripts. Coupled with other things I've heard, I'm 95% sure it's the specific location name, rather than purely the name on the plans.

Ok, cheers Vaux! Certainly an interesting bit of info, perhapse inspired by the idea of Operation Goldeneye and Fleming's naming of his Jamaican house?

Good thinking! Hadn't made the connection myself, but certainly makes sense.

[S K Y F A L L]

I hope it is not called Skyfall because a helicopter fall out of the sky and crushed Skyfall Lodge with M inside.

Maybe Skyfall is a code name of a former British agent during the Cold War who is a sleeper agent who rise back from the grave....that comes back to haunt M?

Sounds good to me.

[S K Y F A L L]

Something to do with a l laser targeting system..?

[ggl]

I think this topic was already closed...

SPOILER LINK:








http://cdn.screenran...yfall-Lodge.jpg

[S K Y F A L L]

My bad and great spoiler, some how I know it all along.

[bill007]

Coda: Skyfall Lodge is James Bond's ancestral home.....

http://theforagingph...skyfall-lodge/#

Which, by the way, gets completely decimated.....

http://www.dailymail...-explosion.html

[thecasinoroyale]

In light of the recent teaser trailer discussions, with the opening interrogation word association dialogue, I'm finding it hard to believe that MI6 would use the word 'Skyfall' in this, if all it actually is, is Bond's ancestral home. Either that home houses some pretty dark, international espionage secrets, or the Lodge isn't called Skyfall at all - that name is actually, on the picture above, simply the film title 'Skyfall' and the location of a Lodge, and it might not actually HAVE a name as we all think.

With the rumours that 'Skyfall' is linked to MI6 operations, I can't believe it's also the name of a Scottish manor lodge. I don't think it is actually the name of the Lodge at all now.



God, I don't know WHAT to believe anymore! Can't wait to actually find out what it is though, it's hurting my brain.

[Shrublands]

With the rumours that 'Skyfall' is linked to MI6 operations, I can't believe it's also the name of a Scottish manor lodge. I don't think it is actually the name of the Lodge at all now.

It says “Skyfall” on the gatepost.

[thecasinoroyale]

Well, you sunk my battleship! Thank you for that Shrublands, I've never seen the gatepost before.

I look forward more now to see how all the 'Skyfall' name facts and rumours tie into one coherent plot line!

[JCRendle]

Looking at Bill007's link, I saw this


ROBERT BOND WHO DIED HERE AT SKYFALL GLENCOE

Looks like Skyfall is the name of the area in Glencoe, not just the name of the lodge.

[Shrublands]

Looking at Bill007's link, I saw this


ROBERT BOND WHO DIED HERE AT SKYFALL GLENCOE

Looks like Skyfall is the name of the area in Glencoe, not just the name of the lodge.

My understanding of that is that Skyfall is the name of the house and the estate, which is in Glencoe.
Like saying Longleat, Wiltshire, for Longleat House and grounds in Wiltshire.

[JCRendle]

Sounds about right. Good call

[thecasinoroyale]

Interesting indeed! Thanks for those bits guys.