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[Skudor]

Isn't the pre-title sequence in GOLDENEYE a flashback?

The film still progresses in a linear temporal order, it just omits so many years via the symbolism of the title sequence. Strictly speaking, it would only be a flashback if they were to establish the here-and-now, then flash back to something that had happened previously. A sequence outside the temporal order.

Lots of movies chop out years on end, (2001 being the most spectacular) but stick to a linear temporal order, the bits before the cuts are not considered flashback because they are not flashing back from anything.

Yeah, I'm thinking there won't be any flash backs - just possibly some past in the PTS.

Having said that... I'd find it rather odd if Fiennes was just a bit part in the PTS. Having a few little flash backs doesn't change that - not a lot of screen time.

Ergo - I'm just confused and looking forward to some more facts.

[Vauxhall]

McCrory is Moneypenny.

I'll bet my left bollock she's not.

I'm archiving this post for later use.

[Luigi Ferrari]

After Ola Rapace has been officially added to the cast of Skyfall, here (http://t.co/CgVgh9FO) you can read that " Ola is in London right now,filming". The role he is playing remains still secret.

[Royal Dalton]

SkyFall: Flashbacks of a Double-Oh



Has anyone speculated that Fiennes and McCrory could be playing Andrew & Monique Bond yet?

"Stay off the Mountain".

http://debrief.comma...ost__p__1170225

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[Marketto007]

Will it be?



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[bondrocks14]

I'm gonna put my money on McCrory being Moneypenny..and she already has reddish hair anyway

McCrory is a brunette.

Like I said, she has "reddish" hair...if you look at a lot of her pics she has reddish brown hair

[David Schofield]

SkyFall: Flashbacks of a Double-Oh



Has anyone speculated that Fiennes and McCrory could be playing Andrew & Monique Bond yet?

"Stay off the Mountain".

http://debrief.comma...ost__p__1170225

Do I win a prize?

If Fiennes turns out to be Bond's dad it'll be the cheapest, naffest idea in the Bond films.

It makes the use of flashback(s) that's been discussed in this thread appear classy and original cinema.

I can just about handle the idea of showing the historical family home of the Bond's in Scotland, but we do not need to see Bond's backstory. He is not Batman, Superman, etc.

Maybe he's really Luke Skywalker Bond. Fiennes is his dad and Dench-M really his mum who had to give him up and later convinced him he'd been adopted. Maybe that's the mistake that's comeback to haunt M. "James, I am your mother". Fits in neatly with all the M-Bond in CR and QOS, too.

[Matt_13]

Will it be?



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Pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter. About Craig's age, too.

[Gt Munn]

This film, has such an amazing cast.

I agree. Incredible cast. EON has certainly started production with the right foot in front.

[Melack]

Will it be?



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Whoa, awesome!

Please let this happen!

[coco1997]

Will it be?



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Excellent! Can you do one with Fiennes as Blofeld?

[DaveBond21]

Hmmmm this 'so-and-so is playing a younger version of so-and-so' is slightly worrying, that is, in a pacing sense.

I assume that Skyfall will rely quite heavily on flashbacks, perhaps detailing the story of a bungled mission involving M in the past (Helen McCory?). I'm just worried that if there are too many flashbacks it will ruin the flow of the narrative.

Thoughts?

Yes, that would be a concern of mine too.


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[Germanlady]

Its only a tweet but lets say, its genuine - this would suggest, Bond and Fiennes character are living in the same time frame, which again suggests, Fiennes is not a flashback. Also, if this woman played with both, its another indiz, that they are both in the present.

She has done two more tweets about filming Bond, so I tend to believe, she is doing a cameo part...marketto has been talking to her from what I read.

Sarahcoutts1 Sarah Coutts
After a couple of days with Daniel Craig and Ralph Fiennes I need a change of scenery...sooooo join me tomorrow... http://fb.me/11FiHmt7I

Edited by Germanlady, 11 November 2011 - 10:41 PM.

[dinovelvet]

Its only a tweet but lets say, its genuine - this would suggest, Bond and Fiennes character are living in the same time frame, which again suggests, Fiennes is not a flashback. Also, if this woman played with both, its another indiz, that they are both in the present.

She has done two more tweets about filming Bond, so I tend to believe, she is doing a cameo part...marketto has been talking to her from what I read.

Sarahcoutts1 Sarah Coutts
After a couple of days with Daniel Craig and Ralph Fiennes I need a change of scenery...sooooo join me tomorrow... http://fb.me/11FiHmt7I

Hmm...so what is she, like a TV shopping presenter? Odd casting. Maybe she just has one line or something. I'd also speculate that this suggests Bond and Fiennes are on friendly terms (at least in this scene). All very cryptic.

[TCK]

I think Helen McCrory is far hotter than Bérénice Marlohe or Naomie Harris. She was the most interesting actress for being the main James Bond girl who are uninteresting and dull since Magda in Octopussy for they don't have character anymore. Helen McCrory was the golden occasion to bring some news and interests to the part. That's missed.

[Peckinpah1976]

McCrory is a very attractive women but despite being the same age as Craig she looks much older (many of the photos being thrown about aren't recent). That's why she hasn't been cast as the female lead and IMO isn't playing Moneypenny (she'd be wasted in the latter role anyway, if it's even in the film).

I'm gonna put my money on McCrory being Moneypenny..and she already has reddish hair anyway

McCrory is a brunette.

Like I said, she has "reddish" hair...if you look at a lot of her pics she has reddish brown hair

No, she's a brunette; that doesn't imply "reddish" at all...

[bondrocks14]

No, she's a brunette; that doesn't imply "reddish" at all...

Do a Google image search of her...in some pictures her hair has a reddish tint...like in this one

[quantumofsolace]

She doesn't look older than Craig. The Bond girls are often far younger than the actor playing Bond. She's a brunette. The lighter reddishness is just the lighting. She's a very good actress. No idea who she is playing but she's a good addition to the cast if you want quality and not 'of the moment' stunt casting.

Edited by quantumofsolace, 12 November 2011 - 08:20 AM.

[David Schofield]

She doesn't look older than Craig. The Bond girls are often far younger than the actor playing Bond. She's brunette. The lighter reddishness is just the lighting. She's a very good actress. No idea who she is playing but she's a good addition to the cast if you want quality and not 'of the moment' stunt casting.

Definately a very good piece of casting. Very talented actress.

She certainly doesn't look older than Craig who, even the most intense Craig-Nazi must admit, can look older than God at different times. Certainly older than 43.

Get a Brosnan-Sam Bond vibe about Craig-McCrory as Penny, but without the juvenile smutty innuendo.

[ggl]

Well, as a Spanish, I consider McCrory a good addendum to the cast, but not particularly a big star. She´s a good British addition but not an international figure (yes, Harry Potter is global but she wasn´t exactly Hermione, was she?).

By the way, I´m the one who started the post: Best Bond casting ever?

[Captain Tightpants]

Why does an actor need to have international credibility to appear in a Bond film?

[sharpshooter]

That picture totally gets me behind the idea of a McCrory Moneypenny.

[ggl]

Why does an actor need to have international credibility to appear in a Bond film?

Not saying that, Captain. Just commenting the "mayhem" that her casting has provoked in the forums. A British well-known actress in the island, but nothing more. We need more? Probably, no. As I said days ago, the cast is superb and probably the better in Bond History (before filming).

It´s quite obvious that we don´t need every part played by a star (CR 67?...)

[Leon]

Everyone's talking about her maybe being Moneypenny, but I look at her pictures and I could see her playing a younger M (Dench). Perhapse if they use flashbacks to whatever this secret of M's past is?

[bondrocks14]

She's a brunette. The lighter reddishness is just the lighting.

Her hair wouldn't have a reddish tint in the light if it didn't have a reddish tint to begin with. Certainly she is a brunette, but she still has "reddish" hair that is more noticeable depending on the lighting conditions

[Vauxhall]

Its only a tweet but lets say, its genuine - this would suggest, Bond and Fiennes character are living in the same time frame, which again suggests, Fiennes is not a flashback. Also, if this woman played with both, its another indiz, that they are both in the present.

She has done two more tweets about filming Bond, so I tend to believe, she is doing a cameo part...marketto has been talking to her from what I read.

Sarahcoutts1 Sarah Coutts
After a couple of days with Daniel Craig and Ralph Fiennes I need a change of scenery...sooooo join me tomorrow... http://fb.me/11FiHmt7I

Hmm...so what is she, like a TV shopping presenter? Odd casting. Maybe she just has one line or something. I'd also speculate that this suggests Bond and Fiennes are on friendly terms (at least in this scene). All very cryptic.

I didn't personally get the sense that they were necessarily on friendly terms, although didn't get the opposite sense either. I think we can certainly assume that Bond and Fiennes exist within the same timeline though.

[David Schofield]

Its only a tweet but lets say, its genuine - this would suggest, Bond and Fiennes character are living in the same time frame, which again suggests, Fiennes is not a flashback. Also, if this woman played with both, its another indiz, that they are both in the present.

She has done two more tweets about filming Bond, so I tend to believe, she is doing a cameo part...marketto has been talking to her from what I read.

Sarahcoutts1 Sarah Coutts
After a couple of days with Daniel Craig and Ralph Fiennes I need a change of scenery...sooooo join me tomorrow... http://fb.me/11FiHmt7I

Hmm...so what is she, like a TV shopping presenter? Odd casting. Maybe she just has one line or something. I'd also speculate that this suggests Bond and Fiennes are on friendly terms (at least in this scene). All very cryptic.

I didn't personally get the sense that they were necessarily on friendly terms, although didn't get the opposite sense either. I think we can certainly assume that Bond and Fiennes exist within the same timeline though.

Was that ever in doubt???

Thought the speculation was regarding the "younger" talented being the 'flashback' characters - Whishaw and McCrory, no? (assuming the latter is young M and not Moneypenny )

[DamnCoffee]

I think that's what Vauxhall was saying. Bond and Fiennes exist within the linear timeline, and Fiennes is not a past character.

[dinovelvet]

I think that's what Vauxhall was saying. Bond and Fiennes exist within the linear timeline, and Fiennes is not a past character.

Unless Ralph is playing the ghost of Bond's dad

[00Twelve]

I think that's what Vauxhall was saying. Bond and Fiennes exist within the linear timeline, and Fiennes is not a past character.

Unless Ralph is playing the ghost of Bond's dad

That's Sean Connery's part, dino.