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#31 gkgyver

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 04:28 PM

Kevin Spacey as Blofeld would be amazing.

#32 Zorin Industries

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 08:09 PM

Lazy story, lazy notion and lazy casting.

There is nothing I want to see less than Kevin Spacey as a Bond villain. I have no problem with his career and theatre work but he would be a lazy choice for any Bond villain and I cannot imagine why this story has got so much oxygen.


So another important element from The Daily Mail story turns out to be true.

It said Ralph Fiennes was in early talks, a few days later, the actor confirms this.

It said that Kevin Spacey was considered, but schedule problems with the Richard III tour made it impossible, now Spacey confirms that.

This all makes me very interested in the bit about ‘other big names’ being pursued, I wonder who they are and who they’ll be playing.

I am also curious how many will find the character Fiennes and Spacey were up for to be "Darkly Complex"

Who said any parts in a script the reporters (who have not read the script for BOND 23) are claiming to be "darkly complex"?

If we are talking a villain like he played in The Usual Suspects I'm kinda sad he wont be in bond 23.

Why on Earth would an actor who played a part in a film 15 years ago be asked to play that same role in something else?

Wanted: Actors for 23rd James Bond film.

Qualifications: Must be friend of the director.

Yes, that's how a great deal of parts are cast in the world, and rightly so.

You could just as easily say that Mendes is attempting to attract respected actors to the project via the quality of the script, and thus it needs to be far, far from rubbish.

Most of the non-returning actors in this film will be interested because it is a Bond film and it is a Bond film directed by Sam Mendes. In this instance, I don't think the script comes into it.

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 08:23 PM

Yes, that's how a great deal of parts are cast in the world, and rightly so.

Well, it's how a great many parts are cast, anyway.

Kevin Spacey as Blofeld would be amazing.

Hmmm...

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 11:34 PM

Since it's confirmed that they're after folks like Spacey, Bardem, and Fiennes, it seems that the Weisz rumor was bulldada after all. As if any of us ever doubted that....

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 11:53 PM

Lazy story, lazy notion and lazy casting.

There is nothing I want to see less than Kevin Spacey as a Bond villain. I have no problem with his career and theatre work but he would be a lazy choice for any Bond villain and I cannot imagine why this story has got so much oxygen.



So another important element from The Daily Mail story turns out to be true.

It said Ralph Fiennes was in early talks, a few days later, the actor confirms this.

It said that Kevin Spacey was considered, but schedule problems with the Richard III tour made it impossible, now Spacey confirms that.

This all makes me very interested in the bit about ‘other big names’ being pursued, I wonder who they are and who they’ll be playing.

I am also curious how many will find the character Fiennes and Spacey were up for to be "Darkly Complex"

Who said any parts in a script the reporters (who have not read the script for BOND 23) are claiming to be "darkly complex"?

If we are talking a villain like he played in The Usual Suspects I'm kinda sad he wont be in bond 23.

Why on Earth would an actor who played a part in a film 15 years ago be asked to play that same role in something else?

Wanted: Actors for 23rd James Bond film.

Qualifications: Must be friend of the director.

Yes, that's how a great deal of parts are cast in the world, and rightly so.

You could just as easily say that Mendes is attempting to attract respected actors to the project via the quality of the script, and thus it needs to be far, far from rubbish.

Most of the non-returning actors in this film will be interested because it is a Bond film and it is a Bond film directed by Sam Mendes. In this instance, I don't think the script comes into it.

Zorin thank you for asking the questions you are. First you claim this story has no oxygen. I disagree it adds even more validity to the Daily Mail story.

Also you ask about Darkly Complex characters and where I got this information from. I got it from the Daily Mail Article about Ralph Fiennes potential casting. Saying a villian is "darkly complex" says nothing and everything it's like saying the new Bond film will be gritty and realistic. these are buzz words writers of such articles use to garner interest in their story about a film. What does it mean who knows it's PR Jargon if Fiennes is cast will his character be "darkly complex" maybe maybe not I doubt seriosly he will play a one dimensional cardbord villian I don't think a one dimensional character will intrest anyone so there will be some complexities as for what they are who knows. All we know right now is both Fiennes and Bardem have been looked at and approached by EON as varfied by themselves in latter interviews. as time moves on we'll no doubt learn more about if they are cast and also who they are playing.


As for my Keyser Soze comment reread it I said a character LIKE keyser soze. I dont want Bond vs Keyser soze as it wouldnt make sense. I would Like bond to take on a villian who is Smasrt sophisitcated creepy manipulative evil and yet talks to bond not like he is an enemy but a challenege. Oh and I'd like the villian to be as "darkly complex" as Keyser Soze is.

I hope that clears up the issues you had with my intial posts any other questions feel free to ask me I'm trying to no longer be the giddy bond fan who believes everything and posts everything but when an actor said he was approached but had to turn it down or an actor said he was approached period I find that to be news worthy to discuss.

Also I think the story has something to do with actors decisions just what i believe i could be wrong.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 07:53 AM

Most of the non-returning actors in this film will be interested because it is a Bond film and it is a Bond film directed by Sam Mendes. In this instance, I don't think the script comes into it.


To suggest that actors like Ralph Fiennes and Javier Bardem would be interested in appearing in any Bond film regardless of the quality of the script is, quite frankly, ridiculous. Anyway, they’ve both said publicly that they want to read the script before committing, so that’s that. As for any Bond film directed by Sam Mendes, well that’s the whole point, he’s highly respected in the industry and they trust him to ensure that each element is to a high standard, including (and perhaps especially) the script.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 12:50 PM


Most of the non-returning actors in this film will be interested because it is a Bond film and it is a Bond film directed by Sam Mendes. In this instance, I don't think the script comes into it.


To suggest that actors like Ralph Fiennes and Javier Bardem would be interested in appearing in any Bond film regardless of the quality of the script is, quite frankly, ridiculous.

Why? If an actor has a standing and airtight momentum to their career then doing a Bond for a few months is a major pull. Actors do "why not" projects all the time. Coltrane, Marceau, Dench, Almaric, Berry, Stephens et al no doubt did their Bond films for similiar reasons - it was a curio to do a Bond, they felt their careers would not be tarnished by it (the Bond films have a cache they maybe didn't thirty years ago), we are now down the line in terms of time so the people making and performing in a Bond film saw the films as kids themselves and - never underestimate this - we all need to pay the bills. Yes, good actors have their craft, but they also have their taxmen, school fees, holidays, accountants, gardeners, agents and PA's to finance.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 01:50 PM



Most of the non-returning actors in this film will be interested because it is a Bond film and it is a Bond film directed by Sam Mendes. In this instance, I don't think the script comes into it.


To suggest that actors like Ralph Fiennes and Javier Bardem would be interested in appearing in any Bond film regardless of the quality of the script is, quite frankly, ridiculous.

Why? If an actor has a standing and airtight momentum to their career then doing a Bond for a few months is a major pull. Actors do "why not" projects all the time. Coltrane, Marceau, Dench, Almaric, Berry, Stephens et al no doubt did their Bond films for similiar reasons - it was a curio to do a Bond, they felt their careers would not be tarnished by it (the Bond films have a cache they maybe didn't thirty years ago), we are now down the line in terms of time so the people making and performing in a Bond film saw the films as kids themselves and - never underestimate this - we all need to pay the bills. Yes, good actors have their craft, but they also have their taxmen, school fees, holidays, accountants, gardeners, agents and PA's to finance.


The Bond Factor is no doubt a powerful draw, Bardem has said as much, but he’s also on record as saying that he is waiting to see if the script lives up to what Mendes has described to him. I think here, as with so much, his final decision will be based on a number of pros and cons. However, an underdeveloped, so-what screenplay would certainly be seen as a big con. Particularly if there is more interesting material elsewhere, which could just as easily fund the school fees.
Being an optimistic sort, I’m seeing all this A List interest as a very positive indication of Mendes (and Eon’s) ambition for the film. Something very special for the Golden Anniversary.

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 10:55 AM

Anyway, seeing the casting (even if there's nothing confirmed until now), it proves that the producers want to do a great movie, with famous actors, that never happened in the saga, because the producers always wanted unknown actors, or not very famous.

C'est du lourd, mes amis !! :D

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 09:04 PM

If they ever decided to remake "AVTAK", Kevin Spacey would be a great Max Zorin. He absolutely nails the Walken impression:

http://video.yahoo.c...1700250/5696869

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 11:53 PM

http://www.joblo.com...ex.php?id=36241

nothing exactly new new but he does metion he would be more then happy to be a villian in bond 24. so who knows.

#42 Shrublands

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 08:23 AM

http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=36241

nothing exactly new new but he does metion he would be more then happy to be a villian in bond 24. so who knows.


Here’s a link to the video of Spacey being asked about it
http://moviesblog.mt...-down-the-line/