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[Quantumofsolace007]

"I asked him did he want to be the Bond villain in Bond 23 as Sam Mendes was directing it. Spacey would have loved to have played the part and looks as if he would have if it had not been for Richard III. Sam Mendes is also directing that, but Spacey goes on tour with the play while Mendes goes on to direct Bond. Neither Sam or Kevin were happy about it but nothing could be done."

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if we are talking him playing villain like he did in superman returns bond 23 dogded a bullet


If we are talking a villain like he played in The Usual Suspects I'm kinda sad he wont be in bond 23.

[Matt_13]

That's interesting.

[Tarl_Cabot]

I loved him as the Bond-villian-like role Mel Prophet he played on Wiseguy 20+ years ago. That was the template for his Lex Luthor(they even gave him a huge yacht in SR like he had on Wiseguy). Too bad his Luthor had such a lame plan and was so...flatly written. But I'd give a shot at Bond...24.

[MattofSteel]

Spacey was one of the few actually amazing qualities Superman Returns had, so says this humble lifelong fan of the Man of Steel.

[dinovelvet]

Good. Not that I've got anything against him, but I've seen him do the villain thing several times, as I'm sure everyone else has, too.

Still, if this is true, it means the villain isn't any specific ethnicity, if we're talking about the same role offered to Javier Bardem.

[blueman]

Rather see Bardem and/or Fiennes in 23.

[Binyamin]

Eh. Everybody would say "It's Kevin Spacey playing a Bond villain!" and not "It's a really good Bond villain." There is something to be said for lesser-known but highly talented actors.

[Chief of SIS]

Eh. Everybody would say "It's Kevin Spacey playing a Bond villain!" and not "It's a really good Bond villain." There is something to be said for lesser-known but highly talented actors.

There's also something to be said for highly talented well known actors. I love Spacey but agree that it's not a huge loss.

[Shrublands]

So another important element from The Daily Mail story turns out to be true.

It said Ralph Fiennes was in early talks, a few days later, the actor confirms this.

It said that Kevin Spacey was considered, but schedule problems with the Richard III tour made it impossible, now Spacey confirms that.

This all makes me very interested in the bit about ‘other big names’ being pursued, I wonder who they are and who they’ll be playing.

[SecretAgentFan]

I like Spacey. But to have him play another villain would have been... well, old news. I could have imagined him as a Felix Leiter. But Wright is of course doing a great job and should hold on to it.

[Loomis]

Nothing against Spacey, but I'm glad he's not doing BOND 23. As others have pointed out, it would have been extremely unimaginative casting.

If big-name actors are to be used, I'd rather that their casting seemed surprising and intriguing. You wouldn't get that effect with Spacey, but you would if Eon were to announce, say, Colin Firth, Brad Pitt or Sylvester Stallone as the bad guy. (Actually, Firth seems fairly realistic if the likes of Fiennes have been approached, while Pitt does not appear to be that remote a possibility.)

[Quantumofsolace007]

So another important element from The Daily Mail story turns out to be true.

It said Ralph Fiennes was in early talks, a few days later, the actor confirms this.

It said that Kevin Spacey was considered, but schedule problems with the Richard III tour made it impossible, now Spacey confirms that.

This all makes me very interested in the bit about ‘other big names’ being pursued, I wonder who they are and who they’ll be playing.

I am also curious how many will find the character Fiennes and Spacey were up for to be "Darkly Complex"

[Royal Dalton]

Wanted: Actors for 23rd James Bond film.

Qualifications: Must be friend of the director.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Wanted: Actors for 23rd James Bond film.

Qualifications: Must be friend of the director.

So I guess guessing the bond girl shouldn't be to hard.

[Aris007]

Spacey would have been a very good villain, he's played roles like that in the past, but on the other hand I wouldn't like that Hollywood smell that Bond 23 was about to have if he was casted. I'd prefer an unknown cast over a well-known used one.

[Germanlady]

Wanted: Actors for 23rd James Bond film.

Qualifications: Must be friend of the director.

Wouldn't you gtry to cast the people, you have successfully worked with and of whom you know, they are good? I know, I would given the chance. So - IMO - nothing wrong with that.

[Bryce (003)]

Spacey would have been a very good villain, he's played roles like that in the past, but on the other hand I wouldn't like that Hollywood smell that Bond 23 was about to have if he was casted. I'd prefer an unknown cast over a well-known used one.

Over dinner a few weeks back, Zencat and I had some shop talk and one thing that came up (amongst many bits) was that how the Bond films used to cast people who looked good, fit the role and made their careers. Let's remember that a former scottish truck driver came at the right time.

[Aris007]

Spacey would have been a very good villain, he's played roles like that in the past, but on the other hand I wouldn't like that Hollywood smell that Bond 23 was about to have if he was casted. I'd prefer an unknown cast over a well-known used one.

Over dinner a few weeks back, Zencat and I had some shop talk and one thing that came up (amongst many bits) was that how the Bond films used to cast people who looked good, fit the role and made their careers. Let's remember that a former scottish truck driver came at the right time.

That's my point. I don't want to see Bond turning into an all-star franchise. Cause then everybody will depend on the stars and as a resylt the story will be rubbish. Some times a new fresh actor is much better.

[Conlazmoodalbrocra]

Real shame this as I'm a big fan of Spacey. Still, if we can get Bardem, Fiennes or someone else of that calibre, we'll be sorted!

[jaguar007]

Nothing against Spacey, but I'm glad he's not doing BOND 23. As others have pointed out, it would have been extremely unimaginative casting.

If big-name actors are to be used, I'd rather that their casting seemed surprising and intriguing. You wouldn't get that effect with Spacey, but you would if Eon were to announce, say, Colin Firth, Brad Pitt or Sylvester Stallone as the bad guy. (Actually, Firth seems fairly realistic if the likes of Fiennes have been approached, while Pitt does not appear to be that remote a possibility.)

I would much rather have Spacey than Pitt or stallone in a Bond film.

[NorthoftheThames]

Spacey is a superb actor, but I think "Bond 23" needs to continue with European actors playing the villains. They lend a little more gravitas to the roles, and are often deemed more 'mysterious' - especially for American audiences. A famous Hollywood actor - complete with an arsenal of already well-played villain roles - would derail this new darker direction of the Craig era. Jesper Christensen was such a great find for Mr. White, and they should continue along these lines as the layers of Quantum are revealed.

The difference between a 'known' actor and a 'famous' actor is that the latter would overshadow the real 'star' of the film: James Bond.

However, as another member mentioned, Kevin Spacey would've been a great Felix Leiter!

[Shrublands]

I don't want to see Bond turning into an all-star franchise. Cause then everybody will depend on the stars and as a resylt the story will be rubbish.

You could just as easily say that Mendes is attempting to attract respected actors to the project via the quality of the script, and thus it needs to be far, far from rubbish.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I don't want to see Bond turning into an all-star franchise. Cause then everybody will depend on the stars and as a resylt the story will be rubbish.

You could just as easily say that Mendes is attempting to attract respected actors to the project via the quality of the script, and thus it needs to be far, far from rubbish.

I like shrubblands view of the facts so I agree with him

[Wade]

I like Spacey, but I think B23 needs a weighty villain. Sometimes when I watch Spacey, I know I'm watching Spacey acting. Having Mads as LeChiffre allowed the audience to accept him as a bad guy. Spacey was great in the Supes film, but it was hard to take him seriously.

[Loomis]

Nothing against Spacey, but I'm glad he's not doing BOND 23. As others have pointed out, it would have been extremely unimaginative casting.

If big-name actors are to be used, I'd rather that their casting seemed surprising and intriguing. You wouldn't get that effect with Spacey, but you would if Eon were to announce, say, Colin Firth, Brad Pitt or Sylvester Stallone as the bad guy. (Actually, Firth seems fairly realistic if the likes of Fiennes have been approached, while Pitt does not appear to be that remote a possibility.)

I would much rather have Spacey than Pitt or stallone in a Bond film.

I wouldn't. Spacey is rather like Anthony Hopkins - we've seen him play the villain a zillion times.

[jaguar007]

Nothing against Spacey, but I'm glad he's not doing BOND 23. As others have pointed out, it would have been extremely unimaginative casting.

If big-name actors are to be used, I'd rather that their casting seemed surprising and intriguing. You wouldn't get that effect with Spacey, but you would if Eon were to announce, say, Colin Firth, Brad Pitt or Sylvester Stallone as the bad guy. (Actually, Firth seems fairly realistic if the likes of Fiennes have been approached, while Pitt does not appear to be that remote a possibility.)

I would much rather have Spacey than Pitt or stallone in a Bond film.

I wouldn't. Spacey is rather like Anthony Hopkins - we've seen him play the villain a zillion times.

I have seen Spacey play a villain in The Usual Suspects, Superman (which he was playing as camp) and....and...Oh ya, he was a bad guy cop in an episode of The Equalizer!

At least Spacey can act and bring different characters to life as opposed to Stallone...who can play...Stalllone!

[Bucky]

He was also a pretty creepy villain in Seven. While I agree that I would not want to have a "big name" as the villain if they did have one he would be near the top of my list.

[crheath]

I'm a big fan of Spacey, but I wouldn't want him as a Bond villain. It would be like having Bruce Willis play Felix or Al Pacino playing M.

[Shrublands]

Nothing against Spacey, but I'm glad he's not doing BOND 23. As others have pointed out, it would have been extremely unimaginative casting.

If big-name actors are to be used, I'd rather that their casting seemed surprising and intriguing. You wouldn't get that effect with Spacey, but you would if Eon were to announce, say, Colin Firth, Brad Pitt or Sylvester Stallone as the bad guy. (Actually, Firth seems fairly realistic if the likes of Fiennes have been approached, while Pitt does not appear to be that remote a possibility.)

I would much rather have Spacey than Pitt or stallone in a Bond film.

I wouldn't. Spacey is rather like Anthony Hopkins - we've seen him play the villain a zillion times.

Richard III is quite a villain and Spacey has played soooooooooooooo many villains before. Do you think that Mendes should have cast Sylvester Stallone in the Old Vic production?

It would be “surprising and intriguing” certainly, but sensible…

[JimmyBond]

That is rather interesting. Surprising that Spacey was interested, makes me think (like others here) that the script may be pretty good.

Only time will tell I guess.