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[terminus]

Sounds like a good idea, tdalton.

[tdalton]

Regarding the whole Nambutu thing, does it ever say exactly where Nambutu is? Is it even in Africa? When Bond starts chasing Mollaka at the beginning of CR, he's in Madagascar, which is an island nation, so there's no chance that Bond and Mollaka crossed over an international border during their chase.

I guess what I'm getting at is that I'm a bit confused by how we'd incorporate Nambutu. If it's an African nation, it wouldn't be an island nation, which I would think would be something that one would look for if they were trying to carry out the types of activities Mr. Big is carrying out, due to it being something that would require docking areas for import/export, and having that base of operations be on an island would also add increased security as you'd be perhaps a bit less likely to be discovered. If it's not an African nation (although I'm fairly confident that it's implied to be), then where is it?

[Mr. Blofeld]

Regarding the whole Nambutu thing, does it ever say exactly where Nambutu is? Is it even in Africa? When Bond starts chasing Mollaka at the beginning of CR, he's in Madagascar, which is an island nation, so there's no chance that Bond and Mollaka crossed over an international border during their chase.

They end up in an embassy for Nambutu in Madagascar; presumably, it is an African nation, situated on the eastern coast of the continent.

[tdalton]

What's everyone's sense of what locations we should have? If the overwhelming sense is that we don't need an island nation for Mr. Big's base of operations, then Nambutu could work (although I think we'd have to move it significantly to the north to put it within some kind of reasonable distance to Europe or the Middle East, much int he same way that the Caribbean islands are within a reasonable travelling distance to the United States and Mexico.

If the overall sense is that we need an island nation for Mr. Big, then we could situate it in the Caribbean and keep New Orleans as a holdover location from the previous film.

[terminus]

As mrblofeld said, Nambutu is the country that Bond breaks into the Madagascan Embassy of in Casino Royale - that said, it's not necessarily an East African country (though the flag was based on that of Mozambique and Djibouti, both East African countries). I've used it as a location in TTW - and have placed it on the Gulf of Guinea. From some basic research, the majority of the drugs grown in Africa seem to be from that region - so it stands to reason that if we are going to use it, then putting the country in the Gulf of Guinea would be a good idea. It's not too far north, it's not too far south - and if you look at the positioning of the equator in comparison, it's climate would be about the same as Jamaica.

[tdalton]

If we're going to set Nambutu in the Gulf of Guinea, the only major city (and I think we need some kind of internationally recognizable city for the humanitarian effort to work out of so that it would have a better chance of actually succeeding) would be Rio de Janeiro. New Orleans is just too far to go from Africa.

We still need some form of consensus on where to set this film, though. We've got suggestions to use Nambutu as the primary location and then we've got a proposed plot from coco1997 that would necessitate New Orleans as a location.

My feeling is that if we're going to go with Nambutu, we're going to have to come up with a new plot, as I don't see Kananga/Solitaire/whoever having the platform to launch a worldwide drug initiative such as the one that's been proposed without having access to a large media market like one would find in either North America or Europe, as those would be the two continents that would be the most affected by the plot anyway. I'm not trying to keep this going around in circles by bringing this up. Basically, what I'm trying to get is either a decision made on whether the film will take place in the Caribbean-New Orleans to go along with the plot(s) that have been proposed, or for someone to propose a plot that could actually be used to suit the Nambutu-Africa location.

Basically, I guess, all I'm asking for is some kind of consensus because it just seems like we're going around in circles with the location issue.

Edited by tdalton, 03 February 2011 - 09:05 PM.

[terminus]

I think we could transplant the basic idea to Rio and Nambutu instead of New Orleans and the Caribbean - if I have understood things correctly, Rio De Janeiro has a massive crime problem catalysed by drugs (I had a link to an article about it to post, but the website [the website of a national paper here in the UK] is not allowed to be linked to by the CBn administrator) - perhaps instead of banking on a rebuilding of New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, perhaps we could have the great humanitarian work being an attempt to clean up the drug fueled gang culture and violence in Rio De Janeiro.

[coco1997]

I think we could transplant the basic idea to Rio and Nambutu instead of New Orleans and the Caribbean - if I have understood things correctly, Rio De Janeiro has a massive crime problem catalysed by drugs (I had a link to an article about it to post, but the website [the website of a national paper here in the UK] is not allowed to be linked to by the CBn administrator) - perhaps instead of banking on a rebuilding of New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, perhaps we could have the great humanitarian work being an attempt to clean up the drug fueled gang culture and violence in Rio De Janeiro.

I like that idea a lot.

Terminus, do you think you could whip up a short bulletpoint outline for LALD (as you've done with the previous three treatments) once we've decided on a few more things? If the locations are in place now, we should focus on the other things that will be changed from the original film to our remake. For instance, I presume we'll be including the breaking of Bond's finger, the maiming of Felix Leiter and the keelhauling sequence that was used in "FYEO".

[tdalton]

A few thoughts:

-I think that if we're going to localize the plot specifically to Rio De Janeiro (which is what I've kind of taken away from today's developments), then I think we should at least allude to the idea that the plan would be to begin to expand the plan to take the drugs off the streets to amass a stockpile for later distribution to a global scale (or have those plans already in progress, with the Rio-Nambutu connection being the headquarters for Solitaire-Big). I think that the plot only really works if it's something that could threaten to destabilize the major economies of the world, namely those of North America and Europe, as those would be the continents I think would be most adversely affected (at least financially) by a sudden influx of free drugs (more addicts, big burden on the financial infrastructure to deal with the sudden influx of addicts, etc.)

-On that point, maybe when we pick the film back up after the title sequences, we see Solitaire somewhere in the US (Boston, presumably, to go along with coco1997's location suggestion) giving a speech about the beginnings of her efforts to buy up the drugs in the United States. We could also allude that she plans on giving a similar address somewhere in Europe without actually showing that happening.

-I would also like to retain as much of the supernatural elements of the original film and, perhaps even, expand on them somewhat. I think that it seems like we're moving towards having a group of characters that won't really feature much of those elements, but the supernatural elements of the original film are what I think make it stand out from the other films. The original film is so much different from the other 21 entries in the series because it does allow for the idea that some of these things might actually be possible. Like I alluded to in my character sketch for Solitaire, it could seem to those whom she has power over that she has abnormal abilities, with people from the outside seemingly writing off such suggestions as being due to drug use, the power of myth, etc. I think that this would allow us to really ramp up the terror in this film, as I would like to see a Bond film that features some truly terrifying moments rather than just a tense moment or two.

-On that subject, I think we should go with some kind of redemptive arc for Solitaire, as based on the current story structure she's starting things off as, more or less, a pure villain. Perhaps this could be in some way tied with the fact that Solitaire, based on the current structure, would be calling Rio de Janeiro home, which based on my reading of it on Wikipedia (I know, not the best source, but whatever) would appear to be a rather religious city (Brazil as a country has the largest number of Catholics in the world, and the population of Rio is, according to Wikipedia, 60% Catholic and an additional 17.5% Protestant). I think it would be interesting to see Solitaire dealing with the struggle of living in such a city while being involved with the things she's involved with on top of having, at the very least, some sort of heightened abilities if not abilities that border on being supernatural. This could allow Bond some kind of opening to turn her to his side, as I think that his ability to turn her would be a key moment in the second half of the film (and I think that an emotionally charged face-off between Craig and Agron, which in structure could be similar to that of the train conversation between Bond and Vesper in CR, would make for a great scene), where Bond could use Solitaire's background of abandonment to his advantage by painting the two of them as being very similar people and that she could be doing good things with her abilities rather than working for Mr. Big, and he could combine that sentiment by also working at her with the guilt that she might be feeling about eventually unleashing the horrors she has planned for them by placing on her shoulders the idea that she would be responsible for the destruction of an entire city, and perhaps even more should the plan reach its full intended global reach, that is home to a lot of good people (which would be a cornerstone of her public philosophy for trying to get the drugs off the street in the first place).

[terminus]

I'm happy to do it, but I think after his fine show doing GF and his leadership in the absence of dino, tdalton should have first dibs on doing the outline.

[coco1997]

Very compelling ideas, t. Sounds like Solitaire is going to be a much more complex character in our version than she was in the original.

[tdalton]

Very compelling ideas, t. Sounds like Solitaire is going to be a much more complex character in our version than she was in the original.

I always thought that, as presented in the original, the character was quite boring, which is odd since there's so much potential there to be a really interesting character (she can see the future, how could she be boring )

The main reason I wanted Dianna Agron for the part is that, aside from being a great actress on the verge of superstardom, she does a great job with the duality that the role should have. I think the idea of pitting Bond against a young woman who is similar to him (rather than an older man as we've seen before) is an interesting idea and one we haven't seen before.

[coco1997]

I was thinking, perhaps as a nod to the film, we could have Leiter maimed by alligators as a opposed to sharks.

[tdalton]

I'm happy to do it, but I think after his fine show doing GF and his leadership in the absence of dino, tdalton should have first dibs on doing the outline.

Thanks

I hadn't planned on doing three treatments in a row (or even two for that matter), but LALD is the one remake of the bunch that I've most been looking forward to, I wouldn't mind taking a run at this one. It'll probably won't be before tomorrow night that I'll be able to get an outline ready to go, but hopefully I'll be able to spend a bit of the day tomorrow putting together some ideas for it. I want to do something really special with this one, and now that I've kind of figured out what is involved with putting a treatment together, I think I can branch out a bit more with this one.

What I'd like to do with this one would be to do something that we've never seen with a Bond film before (what that means exactly, at this point, I don't entirely know, although I've got some ideas). I really want to see LALD as a very character-driven movie, with the action everything else being more of a backdrop for the emotional journey that each of the characters, but especially Bond and Solitaire, take over the course of the story.

Just as a couple of examples, a couple of plot or scene ideas I've been pondering:

-Maybe a PTS that recalls the original film, with agents meeting their ends over the world. The final death scene would be during a ritual, probably in Nambutu, where we would get our first glance of Solitaire in this film (and it would be as a stark contrast to how we saw her at the end scene in GF) performing the execution during the ritual, first with it appearing as though she has levitated out of a pit underneath the stage where the ritual is being performed, coming to a rest in front of the agent that is tied to a stake while a man, just like in the original, is taunting him with a snake. She could then use another of her perceived abilities to dispatch the agent, perhaps by way of hypnotizing him and then convincing him to kill himself or through some other means (and, if this were to actually have been filmed, the cinematography would be done in such a way to give the impression that the events could potentially be occurring in some kind of haze of hallucinogenic drugs, thus giving the audience a chance to decide if what they're seeing is actually happening or a hallucination on the part of the people performing the ritual).

-We could also have some kind of action scene where Bond is being pursued through the drug fields in Nambutu at night and under a full moon by Mr. Big (who is described in the novel as having grayish skin which, combined with the rumors spread around the island that Mr. Big is in fact Baron Samedis' zombie, could lend a rather creepy look and feel to the such a chase). This could, perhaps, be Bond's first encounter with Mr. Big, and after hearing the legends about Baron Samedi's zombie inhabiting the island, when Bond is first looking face to face with Mr. Big, it could be something that would spook him a bit.

-In something of a cross between the Pacino/DeNiro scene in Heat and the Craig/Green train scene in CR, the scene that I've mentioned before where Bond sets out to turn Solitaire. Where in the film this would come, I'm not entirely sure (although it wouldn't be in the first half of the film, but rather somewhere during the latter half, possibly around the 3/4 mark, although evidence of her character softening would be apparent before this), but a private dinner scene of sorts where Bond draws upon his own life experiences, which with a bit of research he's able to deduce are very similar to Solitaire's (i.e. she was abandoned as a child and had to raise herself to some degree). He's eventually able to turn her, or at least plant the seeds of doing so, where we could see her later make the full turn towards the other side at a church or similar location where she goes for a moment of introspection and realizes that she could be using her gifts to better humanity rather than try to bring about its destruction.

-We could also have a scene where Bond believes that he's killed Mr. Big, only to find out later that he actually hasn't (although it would be a scenario that could easily be explained as being completely possible that he could have lived), which could feed into the whole Baron Samedi persona he has going for him.

I was thinking, perhaps as a nod to the film, we could have Leiter maimed by alligators as a opposed to sharks.

I think this would be a brilliant idea.

Edited by tdalton, 04 February 2011 - 04:36 AM.

[coco1997]

Cool ideas, T.

We also need to address what roles Blofeld and Rosie Carver play in all this--perhaps terminus and Mr. Blofeld have some input?

[coco1997]

Since there was originally going to be a Quantum meeting at the UN in "QoS", and there's a UN scene in "LALD", perhaps we could include a scene where Blofeld's burgeoning SPECTRE operatives meet there?

[Mr. Blofeld]

We ought to cut Rosie; her character didn't work spectacularly well in the original film, and, if we're hewing (theoretically) closer to the book, she wouldn't fit, at all.

[tdalton]

Since there was originally going to be a Quantum meeting at the UN in "QoS", and there's a UN scene in "LALD", perhaps we could include a scene where Blofeld's burgeoning SPECTRE operatives meet there?

I think that would work quite well.

[coco1997]

We ought to cut Rosie; her character didn't work spectacularly well in the original film, and, if we're hewing (theoretically) closer to the book, she wouldn't fit, at all.

We could find a way to make her fit.

[Mr. Blofeld]

We could find a way to make her fit.

After all the work we've done without the character? It'd probably just be better not to try and find a way to jam her in.

[coco1997]

It's still relatively early; we don't even have a bullet point outline yet. I think once terminus is able to fashion one for us, he'll think of a way to utilize her.

[terminus]

It's still relatively early; we don't even have a bullet point outline yet. I think once terminus is able to fashion one for us, he'll think of a way to utilize her.

Sorry - haven't been online all day, only just got home (did a day of my gym instructor qualification, then to one town and then to the cinema to see Tron) but I think that tdalton is doing the outline, though if he needs any help I'll be happy to offer it. That said, I was thinking of how to use Rosie Carver and was going to suggest that, given she only really shows up in one section in St. Monique, that she would only show up, more or less, in one section in this version in Nambutu. My suggestion is that she's some sort of aid worker in the public side of the drugs program who teams up with Bond, she wouldn't be superstitious of the voodoo (we've done the superstition angle in DN) but maybe it's her that's made the connection between the public face of President Kananga and the mysterious underworld figure of Mr Big in Rio De Janeiro and this is her ultimate contribution to the plot before being savagely slaughtered in Nambutu.

[coco1997]

Good thoughts, terminus.

What does everything think about action sequences? What should be kept or changed?

[tdalton]

Just a few ideas to perhaps start out a bullet-point outline. I'm still developing some ideas for this one, as (at least the way that I see the film going) I think that this could be one of those films that could turn into one of those longer, Casino Royale length film (or maybe longer) that could be jam packed of a lot of things we've never seen before in a Bond film (and perhaps it could be more of a thriller with political and cultural undertones than just a straight up action film).

This is what I've got for now, but I'll post some more later. This is extremely bare bones at the moment, but I hope to have a very detailed outline posted later on, with hopefully part of it posted by midday tomorrow.

PTS (various locales)

• Agents are seen being assassinated in various locations over the world as a Quantum-initiated shot across the bow to the various intelligence agencies.
• The final assassination would be in a voodoo ritual in Nambutu, where we would see Solitaire dispatch the agent through some form of hypnosis ability where she would put the agent under hypnosis and force him to kill himself.

LONDON

• Bond, M, and Tanner discuss the deaths of the agents. They decide that the best place to start would be to look at the drug trade in Nambutu which the agent killed there was looking into.

BOSTON

• Solitaire delivers an internationally broadcast speech detailing the success of the program to buy all of the drugs in Rio de Janeiro while also announcing the beginning of such a plan in the United States and, with success in the US, it will then be taken to Europe.

UNITED NATIONS

• Blofeld has some back room meetings with people he hopes to bring into Quantum to make up a new leadership, although one that ultimately would answer to him. We see Solitaire at the meeting, flexing a bit of her influence within the organization (her prediction that the Goldfinger plot would fail along with her ability to raise obscene amounts of money and good public relations has made her, and by extension Mr. Big, somewhat powerful within the reforming Quantum organization)

NAMBUTU

• Bond arrives in Nambutu to investigate the agent's death. He hears rumors that the zombie of Baron Samedi rules the island, and his first encounter with Mr. Big would be at night, under a full moon while looking at the drug fields. Big would greatly startle Bond with his appearance (his grayish skin due to a heart condition, combined with the moonlight and the myths told about Samedi's zombie, all of which would make for a startling scene), and Big pursues Bond through the drug fields before Bond is able to lose him.

[edit] - Just saw your suggestion for Rosie, terminus. I think that would work quite well and I'll incorporate it into the outline.

Edited by tdalton, 05 February 2011 - 12:21 AM.

[Mr. Blofeld]

I thought the dual identities were going to be Big and Samedi? I don't want this "Kananga" bullcrap from the original movie convoluting our perfectly good dichotomy taken from the novel...

[tdalton]

Any ideas for scenes to work into the treatment (action or otherwise)? The outline is coming along, but if anyone has an ideas for scenes to add to the film there's plenty of room for more. I'm going to sit down to watch Live and Let Die here soon in order to get a better sense of how the action flows in that one to get some idea on how to tie everything together.


Regarding the possible inclusion of Kananga, what if instead of being yet another alter-ego of Big/Samedi, what if he's just the president of Nambutu, and basically a puppet in a similar fashion to the way that the president of Isthmus in Licence to Kill was to Sanchez?

[tdalton]

Here's something of a synopsis of how I see the early part of the film going. I'm having a bit of trouble drafting a proper outline as, while I can see what I think is a solid character-driven story in my mind, I can't seem to get it down onto the page in a particularly satisfactory manner. Still working, though, so if anyone has some ideas how to improve this early part of the film or on how to expand upon it for later in the story, please let me know so we can begin moving towards drafting up the story properly.

The PTS revolves around a pair of agents (we later find out that one is MI6, the other CIA) who are chased through the fields of Nambutu by an angry mob. They are eventually caught when they try to duck into a drug field and are taken for execution to the place where voodoo rituals are conducted on the island. At the ritual we see Solitaire rise up from a pit beneath the stage and come down in front of the two men, who are tied to stakes in the middle of the ritual area. She places one of the agents under a deep state of hypnosis and then instructs him to kill himself, which he does, causing the other agent to pass out due to fear. She then instructs the mob to feed the remaining agent to the alligators.

After the titles, at the two respective intelligence agencies, packages arrive containing the severed heads of the two agents along with the tarot cards symbolizing "death".

Sensing that this is the first activity on the part of Quantum in several months, M sends Bond to Nambutu to investigate the death, while the CIA sends Felix Leiter. They meet up in Nambutu and begin to unravel the mystery as to what the agents had uncovered that had gotten them killed, and who was responsible for it.

Meanwhile, in the United States, Solitaire (who publicly goes by her given name Simone Latrelle) delivers an address that is internationally broadcast that details the success her drug initiative has been in Rio De Janeiro, where she has used her wealth along with corporate partnerships to buy up and dispose of all the drugs being sold on the street. She claims that this has caused a drastic decline in the crime rate and has made the city a much better place to live. She announces that she has begun a similar campaign in the United States and hopes to see it completed within the next month or two. Already a known figure on the national stage as a humanitarian for her work in Rio De Janeiro, this address causes her standing in the international community to rise significantly.

Back in Nambutu, Bond comes across a woman named Rosie Carver, who puts him on the trail of a man named Mr. Big, the unofficial leader of the island. She explains to him the myths revolving around Mr. Big, that he is thought to be the zombie of a man named Baron Samedi. Carver takes Bond out to the drug fields that the agents had been investigating when they died. While there, Bond has his first encounter with Mr. Big, who stalks him through the drug fields, eliminating Carver in a vicious manner during the chase. Bond eventually gets away, albeit shaken due to the sight of Mr. Big.

At the United Nations, Blofeld comes out of hiding for the first time in several months, conducting a back room meeting with several diplomats he hopes to bring into the Quantum fold. The meeting is interrupted as Solitaire bursts into the room. She accuses Blofeld of calling attention to the agent killings in Nambutu by tipping off the intelligence communities regarding their deaths, and that it would have taken them significantly longer to find out the agents had died due to a lack of means of communication on the island. Blofeld tells her that he is moving up the timetable for the second phase of the operation, where the drugs will be released back into the communities at no charge. Solitaire instructs him that they have to wait until the project has at least been completed in the United States for it to be considered a success.

Back in Nambutu, Felix has uncovered a warehouse where drugs are being stored, which he shows to Bond. They find a packing slip that indicates that the drugs have been shipped there from Rio De Janeiro.

[EDIT]:

Bond arrives in Rio De Janeiro, and with the help of some behind the scenes work by Moneypenny, manages an invite to a big charity dinner being thrown in honor of Solitaire. Bond eventually strikes up a conversation with her, and is shocked by the fact that she seems to know everything about him, including details of his upbringing.

When Bond leaves the event, Solitaire orders one of her associates, Tee Hee Johnson, to follow him.

In the second half of the film, I'd imagine Bond heading to Rio De Janeiro where he begins investigating Solitaire. Since her drug initiative is so well known worldwide and the drugs in Nambutu were known to have come from Rio, that would be the obvious place to start, he figures. Felix would stay behind in Nambutu to continue investigating the deaths of the agents. There would, obviously be some action sequences in Rio, and Bond would have several encounters with Solitaire who tries to shift Bond's suspicions elsewhere. Mr. Big would eventually make his way to Rio as well and the finale of the film would take place back in Nambutu after Bond has turned Solitaire and Blofeld has instructed Mr. Big to eliminate Bond, Solitaire, and Felix at any cost.

EDIT: Does anyone think that we might need another location for the film? Right now we've got four, but only two that really feature in any kind of prominent way in the story (Nambutu and Rio De Janeiro; Boston and New York have fairly little screentime in the grand scheme of things, and all of that is right at the beginning).

EDIT: Still working on putting together the second half (and any scene, action or otherwise, ideas are still needed and very much welcome. The more we can get into this film the better, IMO, as it should be that epic kind of film that, at least in some respects, fills the Thunderball void that we have in this series of remakes). While I don't have the structure of how everything in the second half will go, some ideas I currently have include:

• Bond is brought to Solitaire's residence, where he meets her out by the pool (which would be built to resemble a tropical waterfall, basically as though she had a tropical forest of sorts in her backyard). While there, Solitaire would read Bond's fortune with tarot cards, at the end of which Bond would pull the "lovers" card from the deck.
  
• Another sequence will be the point where Blofeld and Mr. Big order the release of the free supply of drugs into Rio, where we would see the city begin to tear itself apart.
  
• The confrontation scene between Bond and Solitaire that I've detailed before, which I think would take place just before Blofeld and Big release the drugs, where Bond would plant the seed into Solitaire's mind that what she's involved in will be a catastrophic event that will end up either killing or otherwise destroying millions of lives.
  
• Bond and Solitaire witnessing Felix being fed to the alligators by Mr. Big (I'm debating one of two ideas regarding this one. One would be that they witness it in person while on Nambutu, another would be that Bond would be sent sent a video message on his mobile phone while in Rio showing Felix being fed to the alligators).
  
• Bond and Solitaire being dragged by Mr. Big's boat across the reef in an attempt to kill them.
  
• Some kind of car chase. I'm not sure who would be involved, other than Mr. Big so that we can use coco1997's car suggestion that got scrapped from GF. Maybe Felix could get a chance to be the action hero of this particular scene and pursue Mr. Big while on Nambutu, but we could also have Bond chasing him in Rio.
  
• A scene between Blofeld and Mr. Big where they begin to conspire against Solitaire, believing that she has in fact been turned. Blofeld wants to get rid of her because, while she does bring in a ridiculous amount of money for the organization, he fears that she may be starting to wield too much power and, although he wouldn't admit it, the fact that she's always a step ahead due to whatever perception abilities she has (whether it's due to mind reading or just heightened abilities to read people) scares him a bit.
  
• During the stretch of the film where Rio is being torn apart by Blofeld and Mr. Big's scheme, Bond and Mr. Big have a violent confrontation set against the backdrop of a city block that is on fire. Bond believes that he has killed Mr. Big, but it turns out later that Mr. Big is still alive, which would be something of a reference to the rumors of Big being believed to be the zombie of Baron Samedi.

Edited by tdalton, 06 February 2011 - 06:10 AM.

[coco1997]

GREAT work, t. This is shaping up to be a completely different film and I mean that with all due respect and praise. All that I would recommend is, that at some point, we feature the Liberty Hotel (specifically) in the Boston section. And the Rolls Royce Phantom does not need to be used in a car chase; it could be window dressing in the background to embody Big's wealth and decadence. No need to tack on a car chase if it winds up feeling extraneous.

Since part of the film is set in and around Rio, we should definitely set some of the events near the Statue of Christ the Redeemer. It's a very iconic monument, and something I've always wanted to see in the Bond films.

[tdalton]

GREAT work, t. This is shaping up to be a completely different film and I mean that with all due respect and praise. All that I would recommend is, that at some point, we feature the Liberty Hotel (specifically) in the Boston section. And the Rolls Royce Phantom does not need to be used in a car chase; it could be window dressing in the background to embody Big's wealth and decadence. No need to tack on a car chase if it winds up feeling extraneous.

Since part of the film is set in and around Rio, we should definitely set some of the events near the Statue of Christ the Redeemer. It's a very iconic monument, and something I've always wanted to see in the Bond films.

Thanks. My goal was to try to do something that we hadn't seen before.

Regarding the Liberty Hotel, my thought was that it would be the location from which Solitaire delivers the address at the beginning of the film. My thinking would be that it would be something that she would want to deliver at the UN, but perhaps she's not given an audience there, so she delivers it in Boston instead.

Also with the Christ the Redeemer statue, I'm very much planning to use that in the story. I was thinking that, after she and Bond have their final confrontation as enemies, where he plants the seeds of doubt into her mind that ultimately causes her to re-evaluate everything (and this would be right on the brink of the point where things really begin to go south in Rio), she would retreat up the mountain to the statue, where she'd have some kind of epiphany and realize that not only was Bond right, but she's got to re-evaluate everything that she's ever done, causing an emotional breakdown on top of the mountain. Bond would later find her up there as they would be able to watch the beginnings of the crisis brought down on the city by Blofeld and Mr. Big, at which point there wouldn't be a doubt in her mind that she needed to help Bond.

[coco1997]

Also with the Christ the Redeemer statue, I'm very much planning to use that in the story. I was thinking that, after she and Bond have their final confrontation as enemies, where he plants the seeds of doubt into her mind that ultimately causes her to re-evaluate everything (and this would be right on the brink of the point where things really begin to go south in Rio), she would retreat up the mountain to the statue, where she'd have some kind of epiphany and realize that not only was Bond right, but she's got to re-evaluate everything that she's ever done, causing an emotional breakdown on top of the mountain. Bond would later find her up there as they would be able to watch the beginnings of the crisis brought down on the city by Blofeld and Mr. Big, at which point there wouldn't be a doubt in her mind that she needed to help Bond.

Excellent thinking.