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[terminus]

We had two votes for Kaleidoscope, one for Risico and one for Whitefire if I've counted correctly. I'm okay with either Kaleidoscope or Risico but don't like Whitefire at all. I can still change the title if group consensus is that we should.

[tdalton]

We had two votes for Kaleidoscope, one for Risico and one for Whitefire if I've counted correctly. I'm okay with either Kaleidoscope or Risico but don't like Whitefire at all. I can still change the title if group consensus is that we should.

I agree with Mr. Blofeld in not really caring for the title as it currently stands, but at the same time, I haven't been able to offer up any kind of title that has gotten any kind of consensus agreement, so I don't really have much standing to criticize it. I do agree, though, that it's not particularly Bondian or Fleming-esque at all.

Edited by tdalton, 25 October 2010 - 04:05 PM.

[terminus]

I think this is prooving to be the biggest problem with this round! Lol!

[chrisno1]

Probably right. While KALEIDOSCOPE isn't particularly Fleming, I do like it a lot. (Hell, I might even use it myself later on!) As has been pointed out no-one else has come up with a workable alternative. The consesus on having a one word title cut down the options. As fine as Risico and even Whitefire might be, they simply don't fit into the synopsis.

Terminus, nice work integrating Monsieur Blanc into the PTS. Never saw that one coming!
UB26 just needs a little gramatical polish (like JAMES BOND WILL RETURN) and I reckon it's done.

[terminus]

Heh - the Monsieur Blanc thing being mentioned in New York was suggested very early on, when it was suggested that Bond's cover be blown by a text message, but think it got dropped very early on. As the text message idea got brought back and kept, seemed like a logical position to refer to the villain - further setting up the 'red herring' nature of the character.

I'm thinking we need to bite the bullet and make a decision on the title. However - as the title IS the only contentious item left for UB26, I'm going to post the proforma for UB27 so that the thread doesn't become a long debate on titles.

Here's the proforma for UB27 - have included in it things that we've already discussed as being included.


UB27: THE HILDEBRAND RARITY

1 Bond - Daniel Craig

2 Bond Girl 1 (Main ie Vesper/Camille):
3 Bond Girl 2 (Minor ie Solange/Fields):
4 Bond Girl 3 (Background Girl):

5 Henchman:

6 Villain:
7 Villain 2: Jesper Christensen as Mr White
8 Villain 3: THE HEAD OF QUANTUM (to be decided by group consensus)
9 Villain 4: Melanie Laurent as Quinn (TBC)

10 M: Timothy Dalton
11 Moneypenny: Emily Blunt

12 Ally 1: Yvonne Strahovski as Mary Goodnight, 008
13 Ally 2: Jeffrey Wright as Felix Leiter
14 Ally 3: - (this is the third Double-Oh Agent, 0011)

LOCATIONS - CHINA IS NOT TO BE USED, NOR ARE LOCATIONS IN THE CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

15 Pre-Titles Location:
16 Location 1:
17 Location 2:
18 Location 3:
19 Location 4:

KEY PLOT POINTS

20 Villains Plot: For centuries, many scientists have attempted to find a method of converting lead into gold and vice versa. This has been impossible - until now. A scientist, named Hildebrand, has discovered a chemical process that does the impossible - using a rare chemical isotope/compound known as 'The Hildebrand Rarity'. Our villain seeks to use this process to turn governmental stockpiles of gold into lead - significantly increasing the prices of his own gold stockpiles whilst also creating new-gold using the process.

21 Pre-Title Sequence Stunt:
22 Major Stunt 1:
23 Major Stunt 2: An assault of some kind involving the whole Double-Oh Branch, ideally involving Mr White who is killed. However, in the process, 0011 is also killed and 008 (Goodnight) is heavily injured, leading to her retirement from active service.
24 Major Stunt 3:
25 Finale Stunt:

STUFF

26 Bond's Car (inc. car gadgets):

27 Gadget 1:
28 Gadget 2:

PRODUCTION

29 Director:

30 Music By:

31 Themetune Sung By:
32 Themetune Written By: (if different from themetune singer and soundtrack writer)

33 Titles Designed By:
34 Description of Titles:

[coco1997]

UB27: THE HILDEBRAND RARITY

1 Bond - Daniel Craig

2 Bond Girl 1 (Main ie Vesper/Camille):
3 Bond Girl 2 (Minor ie Solange/Fields):
4 Bond Girl 3 (Background Girl):

5 Henchman:

6 Villain 1: Giancarlo Esposito as Henrik Feliz, the leader of a country
7 Villain 2: Jesper Christensen as Mr White
8 Villain 3: THE HEAD OF QUANTUM (to be decided by group consensus)
9 Villain 4: Melanie Laurent as Quinn (TBC)

10 M: Timothy Dalton
11 Moneypenny: Emily Blunt

12 Ally 1: Yvonne Strahovski as Mary Goodnight, 008
13 Ally 2: Jeffrey Wright as Felix Leiter
14 Ally 3: - (this is the third Double-Oh Agent, 0011)

LOCATIONS - CHINA IS NOT TO BE USED, NOR ARE LOCATIONS IN THE CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

15 Pre-Titles Location:
16 Location 1:
17 Location 2:
18 Location 3:
19 Location 4:

KEY PLOT POINTS

20 Villains Plot: For centuries, many scientists have attempted to find a method of converting lead into gold and vice versa. This has been impossible - until now. A scientist, named Hildebrand, has discovered a chemical process that does the impossible - using a rare chemical isotope/compound known as 'The Hildebrand Rarity'. Our villain seeks to use this process to turn governmental stockpiles of gold into lead - significantly increasing the prices of his own gold stockpiles whilst also creating new-gold using the process.

21 Pre-Title Sequence Stunt:
22 Major Stunt 1:
23 Major Stunt 2: An assault of some kind involving the whole Double-Oh Branch, ideally involving Mr White who is killed. However, in the process, 0011 is also killed and 008 (Goodnight) is heavily injured, leading to her retirement from active service.
24 Major Stunt 3:
25 Finale Stunt:

STUFF

26 Bond's Car (inc. car gadgets):

27 Gadget 1:
28 Gadget 2:

PRODUCTION

29 Director:

30 Music By:

31 Themetune Sung By:
32 Themetune Written By: (if different from themetune singer and soundtrack writer)

33 Titles Designed By:
34 Description of Titles:

[tdalton]

I'm taking a bit of a different approach to this than I usually do, in which I usually focus on casting first (although I do have a nice little bit part for someone who could serve as Quinn's henchman in the piece, which would basically be something similar to Elvis from QOS in terms of the size of the role and as well as the fact that he wouldn't really affect the outcome or progress of the story so much, with the exception of him being a part of a couple of Quinn's assassination missions).

Anyway, to get back on point, I've thought of an idea revolving around a PTS which focuses more on the villains than Bond. The villains know who Bond is, what he's done to disrupt their organization, etc., but what if they were unable to find him? He's not in London, they determine, and realize he must be out on assignment somewhere. They target a higher-up, Dryden-like character and seek to get answers from him.

If the sequence is too detailed for this point in the process, I'll go back and scale it back to a more basic description. This description below is already rather scaled back from the original scene that I wrote out a couple of days ago, but could be scaled back a bit more if it's deemed necessary.

UB27: THE HILDEBRAND RARITY

1 Bond - Daniel Craig

2 Bond Girl 1 (Main ie Vesper/Camille):
3 Bond Girl 2 (Minor ie Solange/Fields):
4 Bond Girl 3 (Background Girl):

5 Henchman:

6 Villain: Giancarlo Esposito as Henrik Feliz, the leader of a country
7 Villain 2: Jesper Christensen as Mr White
8 Villain 3: THE HEAD OF QUANTUM (to be decided by group consensus)
9 Villain 4: Melanie Laurent as Quinn (TBC)

10 M: Timothy Dalton
11 Moneypenny: Emily Blunt

12 Ally 1: Yvonne Strahovski as Mary Goodnight, 008
13 Ally 2: Jeffrey Wright as Felix Leiter
14 Ally 3: - (this is the third Double-Oh Agent, 0011)

LOCATIONS - CHINA IS NOT TO BE USED, NOR ARE LOCATIONS IN THE CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

15 Pre-Titles Location:
16 Location 1:
17 Location 2:
18 Location 3:
19 Location 4:

KEY PLOT POINTS

20 Villains Plot: For centuries, many scientists have attempted to find a method of converting lead into gold and vice versa. This has been impossible - until now. A scientist, named Hildebrand, has discovered a chemical process that does the impossible - using a rare chemical isotope/compound known as 'The Hildebrand Rarity'. Our villain seeks to use this process to turn governmental stockpiles of gold into lead - significantly increasing the prices of his own gold stockpiles whilst also creating new-gold using the process.

21 Pre-Title Sequence Stunt: A tension-filled scene in which a Dryden-like MI6 agent is being pursued by an unknown person, who we find out later in the scene is Quinn. She pursues him into a open area which is largely abandoned, where he is shot in the leg, immobilizing him. Quinn seeks to extract information regarding Bond's whereabouts from the man. After he refuses, she promises not to shoot him if he gives up Bond's location. After he does so, she continues to have her gun pointed at him. "I thought you weren't going to shoot me if I gave him up?" the man asks. "You're right, I did promise that I wouldn't shoot you. Luckily for me, he" she says, motioning off into the darkness, "didn't make that promise." A gunshot rings out and the man falls to the ground dead, and Quinn walks into the shadows to join a man who we only see as a silhouette.
22 Major Stunt 1:
23 Major Stunt 2: An assault of some kind involving the whole Double-Oh Branch, ideally involving Mr White who is killed. However, in the process, 0011 is also killed and 008 (Goodnight) is heavily injured, leading to her retirement from active service.
24 Major Stunt 3:
25 Finale Stunt:

STUFF

26 Bond's Car (inc. car gadgets):

27 Gadget 1:
28 Gadget 2:

PRODUCTION

29 Director:

30 Music By:

31 Themetune Sung By:
32 Themetune Written By: (if different from themetune singer and soundtrack writer)

33 Titles Designed By:
34 Description of Titles:



EDIT: Sorry, coco1997 I began writing my post before you had made your selection and therefore left yours off. I've edited it back in.

Edited by tdalton, 25 October 2010 - 05:49 PM.

[terminus]

I do like THAT scene, tdalton - any idea who you picture playing the 'Dryden-esque' role? And a name for them?

[coco1997]

Ooh, very cool PTS, t. It's nice to have a PTS that doesn't feature Bond for once--a la the early Moores.

[tdalton]

I do like THAT scene, tdalton - any idea who you picture playing the 'Dryden-esque' role? And a name for them?

Hadn't given the Dryden-esque character much thought beyond that basic description, but will come up with a name and a casting choice for him.

I do have a casting choice in mind for the man that Quinn walks away with in the shadows, but no name for the character yet (I'm toying with a couple of unused Fleming names for him). I see him as being a tougher version of an Elvis-type character, with him serving as an expert gunsmith and sniper who is partnered with Quinn in her attempts for revenge against Bond. As far as a casting choice in mind for this character, I was picturing Elias Koteas for the part.

Also, nice casting choice coco1997. I didn't know who he was just based on his name, but after doing a Google search, he's someone who I do recognize and think that he would make a very good fit in the part that you've created.

Edited by tdalton, 25 October 2010 - 05:59 PM.

[coco1997]

If you've ever seen AMC's breathtaking drama "Breaking Bad", Esposito plays a mastermind character of extreme menace and suave persuasiveness.


He sold me with that role and I instantly knew he'd make a fantastic Bond villain.

In addition, it's been far too long since we had an ethnic villain, as far back as LTK, unless you count Colonel Moon pre-gene therapy.

[SamuelKevlar]

UB27: THE HILDEBRAND RARITY

1 Bond - Daniel Craig

2 Bond Girl 1 (Main ie Vesper/Camille):
3 Bond Girl 2 (Minor ie Solange/Fields):
4 Bond Girl 3 (Background Girl):

5 Henchman:

6 Villain: Giancarlo Esposito as Henrik Feliz, the leader of a country
7 Villain 2: Jesper Christensen as Mr White
8 Villain 3: THE HEAD OF QUANTUM (to be decided by group consensus)
9 Villain 4: Melanie Laurent as Quinn (TBC)

10 M: Timothy Dalton
11 Moneypenny: Emily Blunt

12 Ally 1: Yvonne Strahovski as Mary Goodnight, 008
13 Ally 2: Jeffrey Wright as Felix Leiter
14 Ally 3: Max Minghella as Geoffrey Hastings, the new 0011, orphan, ex-RAF, idolises Bond, who sees an uncomfortable amount of himself in the younger man, though with an optimistic belief in the cause that he has since lost.

LOCATIONS - CHINA IS NOT TO BE USED, NOR ARE LOCATIONS IN THE CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

15 Pre-Titles Location:
16 Location 1:
17 Location 2:
18 Location 3:
19 Location 4:

KEY PLOT POINTS

20 Villains Plot: For centuries, many scientists have attempted to find a method of converting lead into gold and vice versa. This has been impossible - until now. A scientist, named Hildebrand, has discovered a chemical process that does the impossible - using a rare chemical isotope/compound known as 'The Hildebrand Rarity'. Our villain seeks to use this process to turn governmental stockpiles of gold into lead - significantly increasing the prices of his own gold stockpiles whilst also creating new-gold using the process.

21 Pre-Title Sequence Stunt: A tension-filled scene in which a Dryden-like MI6 agent is being pursued by an unknown person, who we find out later in the scene is Quinn. She pursues him into a open area which is largely abandoned, where he is shot in the leg, immobilizing him. Quinn seeks to extract information regarding Bond's whereabouts from the man. After he refuses, she promises not to shoot him if he gives up Bond's location. After he does so, she continues to have her gun pointed at him. "I thought you weren't going to shoot me if I gave him up?" the man asks. "You're right, I did promise that I wouldn't shoot you. Luckily for me, he" she says, motioning off into the darkness, "didn't make that promise." A gunshot rings out and the man falls to the ground dead, and Quinn walks into the shadows to join a man who we only see as a silhouette.
22 Major Stunt 1:
23 Major Stunt 2: An assault of some kind involving the whole Double-Oh Branch, ideally involving Mr White who is killed. However, in the process, 0011 is also killed and 008 (Goodnight) is heavily injured, leading to her retirement from active service.
24 Major Stunt 3:
25 Finale Stunt:

STUFF

26 Bond's Car (inc. car gadgets):

27 Gadget 1:
28 Gadget 2:

PRODUCTION

29 Director:

30 Music By:

31 Themetune Sung By:
32 Themetune Written By: (if different from themetune singer and soundtrack writer)

33 Titles Designed By:
34 Description of Titles:

[terminus]

Not sure I agree with that casting at all - not sure Minghella looks anywhere near old enough to be ex-RAF and a Double-Oh. But I like the idea behind the character. Anyway - mine is not to influence others inputs, it's to work with what people put into the proforma.

[SamuelKevlar]

I purposefully picked someone with a boyish face to accentuate the 'young soldier off to war' vibe I'm going for with this character. He's only just had his first two kills - this is his second, maybe his third assignment. That, and Max is a damn fine actor. As for the RAF thing, I personally know an 18 year old who's already accredited for short-range commercial flights. Prince William got his RAF 'wings' at 25, same as Max is now. I see Geoffrey as being something of a prodigy, remarkably skilled in a somewhat limited skill-set. MI6 recruits only the best, after all.

[Mr. Blofeld]

THE HILDEBRAND RARITY

1 Bond - Daniel Craig

2 Bond Girl 1 (Main ie Vesper/Camille):
3 Bond Girl 2 (Minor ie Solange/Fields):
4 Bond Girl 3 (Background Girl):

5 Henchman:

6 Villain: Giancarlo Esposito as Henrik Feliz, the leader of a country
7 Villain 2: Jesper Christensen as Mr. White
8 Villain 3: THE HEAD OF QUANTUM (to be decided by group consensus)
9 Villain 4: Melanie Laurent as Quinn (TBC)

10 M: Timothy Dalton
11 Moneypenny: Emily Blunt

12 Ally 1: Yvonne Strahovski as Mary Goodnight, 008
13 Ally 2: Jeffrey Wright as Felix Leiter
14 Ally 3: Max Minghella as Geoffrey Hastings, the new 0011, orphan, ex-RAF, idolises Bond, who sees an uncomfortable amount of himself in the younger man, though with an optimistic belief in the cause that he has since lost.

LOCATIONS - CHINA IS NOT TO BE USED, NOR ARE LOCATIONS IN THE CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

15 Pre-Titles Location:
16 Location 1:
17 Location 2:
18 Location 3:
19 Location 4:

KEY PLOT POINTS

20 Villains Plot: For centuries, many scientists have attempted to find a method of converting lead into gold and vice versa. This has been impossible - until now. A scientist, named Hildebrand, has discovered a chemical process that does the impossible - using a rare chemical isotope/compound known as 'The Hildebrand Rarity'. Our villain seeks to use this process to turn governmental stockpiles of gold into lead - significantly increasing the prices of his own gold stockpiles whilst also creating new-gold using the process.

21 Pre-Title Sequence Stunt: A tension-filled scene in which a Dryden-like MI6 agent is being pursued by an unknown person, who we find out later in the scene is Quinn. She pursues him into a open area which is largely abandoned, where he is shot in the leg, immobilizing him. Quinn seeks to extract information regarding Bond's whereabouts from the man. After he refuses, she promises not to shoot him if he gives up Bond's location. After he does so, she continues to have her gun pointed at him. "I thought you weren't going to shoot me if I gave him up?" the man asks. "You're right, I did promise that I wouldn't shoot you. Luckily for me, he" she says, motioning off into the darkness, "didn't make that promise." A gunshot rings out and the man falls to the ground dead, and Quinn walks into the shadows to join a man who we only see as a silhouette.

22 Major Stunt 1: Felix Leiter and the CIA are monitoring the apartment of the deceased Quantum agent Marcus (a brief remark lets us know that they know that he was killed in the Grenadines), hoping that, though slim odds, Marcus will have left something in his apartment of great value to Quantum; lo and behold, an "agent" slipping something out of a safe and into his pocket is revealed, at the last second, to be a fake; upon being stopped outside of the apartment door, he shoots his pursuers and barrels out through the hallway window.

Felix, fed up with his cramped quarters, the bureaucratic slowdowns, and the seeming incompetence of his fellow agents, rips off his headphones and runs out of the ramshackle surveillance house (located conveniently near the apartment complex) after the henchman -- and we now see that Felix is running on a pair of Cheetah running legs, giving him a leg up on the pursuee. (Felix footage would be made up of a trained Cheetah legs runner, seen only from behind, close shots of Jeffrey Wright from the legs up, and wide shots painstakingly synchronized of both Wright and the runner, digitally spliced together.)

After a pursuit across busy streets, footpaths, and up the breakdown lane of a highway, the henchman is finally cornered near a ledge halfway up an overpass -- and traffic below is fast. The goon takes his last few shots at Leiter, who ducks and slides across to the henchman, bumping into his ankles with the Cheetah legs. The henchman, now off balance, drops his gun and careens over the side, but Felix, supporting himself with one elbow, reaches up with his legs and scissors them between the goon, keeping him pinned, upside down, to the ledge.

Slowly, painstakingly, with his other arm, Felix reaches into the operative's inside coat pocket to fish out what he stole from Marcus's apartment, but the goon thinks fast -- as Leiter pulls it out, the henchman pulls Felix's gun from its holster, but it's too late; Leiter has the goods. With his other arm, Felix unstraps the Cheetah legs from his thighs, sending them -- and the trapped goon -- down into the busy traffic below.

Felix hauls himself up as best he can and looks over the ledge, wincing at the sight of his gorgeous Cheetah legs smashed to bits within the pulpy remains of the Quantum henchman, then looks at what he's retrieved from the dead man's pocket. We don't see what he has clearly, but shock sweeps across Leiter's face; he quickly pulls out his walkie-talkie and radios his superiors, saying that the Quantum man is dead, but they've got a new, and more dangerous, lead.

"Dangerous to who, Leiter?"
"To us!"

Reverse shot of Leiter's trembling hand, as sirens wail in the background, and we finally see his morbid prize: A Department of Defense identity card, registered to one Dr. Emeric Hildebrand.

23 Major Stunt 2: An assault of some kind involving the whole Double-Oh Branch, ideally involving Mr White who is killed. However, in the process, 0011 is also killed and 008 (Goodnight) is heavily injured, leading to her retirement from active service.
24 Major Stunt 3:
25 Finale Stunt:

STUFF

26 Bond's Car (inc. car gadgets):

27 Gadget 1:
28 Gadget 2:

PRODUCTION

29 Director:

30 Music By:

31 Themetune Sung By:
32 Themetune Written By: (if different from themetune singer and soundtrack writer)

33 Titles Designed By:
34 Description of Titles:

[terminus]

Oh - now THAT I like.

[coco1997]

Wow, this one has got off to a great start.

[QOS007]

THE HILDEBRAND RARITY

1 Bond - Daniel Craig

2 Bond Girl 1 (Main ie Vesper/Camille):
3 Bond Girl 2 (Minor ie Solange/Fields):
4 Bond Girl 3 (Background Girl):

5 Henchman:

6 Villain: Giancarlo Esposito as Henrik Feliz, the leader of a country
7 Villain 2: Jesper Christensen as Mr. White
8 Villain 3: THE HEAD OF QUANTUM (to be decided by group consensus)
9 Villain 4: Melanie Laurent as Quinn (TBC)

10 M: Timothy Dalton
11 Moneypenny: Emily Blunt

12 Ally 1: Yvonne Strahovski as Mary Goodnight, 008
13 Ally 2: Jeffrey Wright as Felix Leiter
14 Ally 3: Max Minghella as Geoffrey Hastings, the new 0011, orphan, ex-RAF, idolises Bond, who sees an uncomfortable amount of himself in the younger man, though with an optimistic belief in the cause that he has since lost.

LOCATIONS - CHINA IS NOT TO BE USED, NOR ARE LOCATIONS IN THE CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

15 Pre-Titles Location:
16 Location 1:
17 Location 2:
18 Location 3:
19 Location 4: Germany (because they have the second largest stockpile of gold outside of the US)

KEY PLOT POINTS

20 Villains Plot: For centuries, many scientists have attempted to find a method of converting lead into gold and vice versa. This has been impossible - until now. A scientist, named Hildebrand, has discovered a chemical process that does the impossible - using a rare chemical isotope/compound known as 'The Hildebrand Rarity'. Our villain seeks to use this process to turn governmental stockpiles of gold into lead - significantly increasing the prices of his own gold stockpiles whilst also creating new-gold using the process.

21 Pre-Title Sequence Stunt: A tension-filled scene in which a Dryden-like MI6 agent is being pursued by an unknown person, who we find out later in the scene is Quinn. She pursues him into a open area which is largely abandoned, where he is shot in the leg, immobilizing him. Quinn seeks to extract information regarding Bond's whereabouts from the man. After he refuses, she promises not to shoot him if he gives up Bond's location. After he does so, she continues to have her gun pointed at him. "I thought you weren't going to shoot me if I gave him up?" the man asks. "You're right, I did promise that I wouldn't shoot you. Luckily for me, he" she says, motioning off into the darkness, "didn't make that promise." A gunshot rings out and the man falls to the ground dead, and Quinn walks into the shadows to join a man who we only see as a silhouette.

22 Major Stunt 1: Felix Leiter and the CIA are monitoring the apartment of the deceased Quantum agent Marcus (a brief remark lets us know that they know that he was killed in the Grenadines), hoping that, though slim odds, Marcus will have left something in his apartment of great value to Quantum; lo and behold, an "agent" slipping something out of a safe and into his pocket is revealed, at the last second, to be a fake; upon being stopped outside of the apartment door, he shoots his pursuers and barrels out through the hallway window.

Felix, fed up with his cramped quarters, the bureaucratic slowdowns, and the seeming incompetence of his fellow agents, rips off his headphones and runs out of the ramshackle surveillance house (located conveniently near the apartment complex) after the henchman -- and we now see that Felix is running on a pair of Cheetah running legs, giving him a leg up on the pursuee. (Felix footage would be made up of a trained Cheetah legs runner, seen only from behind, close shots of Jeffrey Wright from the legs up, and wide shots painstakingly synchronized of both Wright and the runner, digitally spliced together.)

After a pursuit across busy streets, footpaths, and up the breakdown lane of a highway, the henchman is finally cornered near a ledge halfway up an overpass -- and traffic below is fast. The goon takes his last few shots at Leiter, who ducks and slides across to the henchman, bumping into his ankles with the Cheetah legs. The henchman, now off balance, drops his gun and careens over the side, but Felix, supporting himself with one elbow, reaches up with his legs and scissors them between the goon, keeping him pinned, upside down, to the ledge.

Slowly, painstakingly, with his other arm, Felix reaches into the operative's inside coat pocket to fish out what he stole from Marcus's apartment, but the goon thinks fast -- as Leiter pulls it out, the henchman pulls Felix's gun from its holster, but it's too late; Leiter has the goods. With his other arm, Felix unstraps the Cheetah legs from his thighs, sending them -- and the trapped goon -- down into the busy traffic below.

Felix hauls himself up as best he can and looks over the ledge, wincing at the sight of his gorgeous Cheetah legs smashed to bits within the pulpy remains of the Quantum henchman, then looks at what he's retrieved from the dead man's pocket. We don't see what he has clearly, but shock sweeps across Leiter's face; he quickly pulls out his walkie-talkie and radios his superiors, saying that the Quantum man is dead, but they've got a new, and more dangerous, lead.

"Dangerous to who, Leiter?"
"To us!"

Reverse shot of Leiter's trembling hand, as sirens wail in the background, and we finally see his morbid prize: A Department of Defense identity card, registered to one Dr. Emeric Hildebrand.

23 Major Stunt 2: An assault of some kind involving the whole Double-Oh Branch, ideally involving Mr White who is killed. However, in the process, 0011 is also killed and 008 (Goodnight) is heavily injured, leading to her retirement from active service.
24 Major Stunt 3:
25 Finale Stunt:

STUFF

26 Bond's Car (inc. car gadgets):

27 Gadget 1:
28 Gadget 2:

PRODUCTION

29 Director:

30 Music By:

31 Themetune Sung By:
32 Themetune Written By: (if different from themetune singer and soundtrack writer)

33 Titles Designed By:
34 Description of Titles:

[tdalton]

I do like THAT scene, tdalton - any idea who you picture playing the 'Dryden-esque' role? And a name for them?

After looking at many older actors to play the part, and having no luck in finding any that would make good fits, I've decided to go a bit younger than the Dryden character that was presented in Casino Royale. For the casting of the Dryden-esque character, my choice is:

Stephen Moyer as "Eric Wright"

He's a bit younger than I would have liked for the role, but at the same time, he's an actor that would fit well into a Bond film and would do quite well with this bit part.




Also, for the character that Quinn meets in the shadows at the end of the PTS sequence, I've selected a name for that character as well:

Elias Koteas as "Shaw":

I was going for a Fleming-inspired name, but there weren't that many good ones left that could apply to a henchman, so I went with something original but still something that is a fairly common name for such a character.


Also, I have no idea if the second casting choice is allowed by the rules of the game (I'm assuming the first is since I was asked who I had in mind for the part ), but decided to put it down just in case it is. I don't see the Shaw character interfering much with the main plot, as he's pretty much just Quinn's sidekick through the events of the film, and I kind of see her role in the events of this film being along the lines of a subplot that runs concurrent to the film's actual plot, with her showing up in a way that is similar to the Joker in The Dark Knight, just popping up here and there trying to take out Bond and also possibly Leiter and Goodnight, as she's been tasked by Quantum management (Mr. White or perhaps even the head of Quantum) to begin her own Smiert Spionam campaign against the spies who have been interfering with Quantum interests around the world.

Edited by tdalton, 26 October 2010 - 06:49 AM.

[Captain Tightpants]

THE HILDEBRAND RARITY

1 Bond - Daniel Craig

2 Bond Girl 1 (Main ie Vesper/Camille): Inna Korobkina as Yelena Minkova, a Belorussian prima donna ballerina performing in an adaptation of The Daughter of the Snows. She falls in with Bond after surviving an assassination attempt in a case of mistaken identity, having been poisoned with grayanotoxin (a poison derived from honey pollinated by the rhodendron flower). She always wears a scarf to conceal a surgical scar running around her neck after she had an operation on her thyroid, also known as a "Chernobyl necklace"; she survived the accident at Pripyat as a young girl. When the scarf has been removed, it looks as if someone has tried to decapitate her.
3 Bond Girl 2 (Minor ie Solange/Fields):
4 Bond Girl 3 (Background Girl):

5 Henchman:

6 Villain: Giancarlo Esposito as Henrik Feliz, the leader of a country
7 Villain 2: Jesper Christensen as Mr. White
8 Villain 3: THE HEAD OF QUANTUM (to be decided by group consensus)
9 Villain 4: Melanie Laurent as Quinn (TBC)

10 M: Timothy Dalton
11 Moneypenny: Emily Blunt

12 Ally 1: Yvonne Strahovski as Mary Goodnight, 008
13 Ally 2: Jeffrey Wright as Felix Leiter
14 Ally 3: Max Minghella as Geoffrey Hastings, the new 0011, orphan, ex-RAF, idolises Bond, who sees an uncomfortable amount of himself in the younger man, though with an optimistic belief in the cause that he has since lost.

LOCATIONS - CHINA IS NOT TO BE USED, NOR ARE LOCATIONS IN THE CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

15 Pre-Titles Location:
16 Location 1:
17 Location 2:
18 Location 3:
19 Location 4: Germany (because they have the second largest stockpile of gold outside of the US)

KEY PLOT POINTS

20 Villains Plot: For centuries, many scientists have attempted to find a method of converting lead into gold and vice versa. This has been impossible - until now. A scientist, named Hildebrand, has discovered a chemical process that does the impossible - using a rare chemical isotope/compound known as 'The Hildebrand Rarity'. Our villain seeks to use this process to turn governmental stockpiles of gold into lead - significantly increasing the prices of his own gold stockpiles whilst also creating new-gold using the process.

21 Pre-Title Sequence Stunt: A tension-filled scene in which a Dryden-like MI6 agent is being pursued by an unknown person, who we find out later in the scene is Quinn. She pursues him into a open area which is largely abandoned, where he is shot in the leg, immobilizing him. Quinn seeks to extract information regarding Bond's whereabouts from the man. After he refuses, she promises not to shoot him if he gives up Bond's location. After he does so, she continues to have her gun pointed at him. "I thought you weren't going to shoot me if I gave him up?" the man asks. "You're right, I did promise that I wouldn't shoot you. Luckily for me, he" she says, motioning off into the darkness, "didn't make that promise." A gunshot rings out and the man falls to the ground dead, and Quinn walks into the shadows to join a man who we only see as a silhouette.

22 Major Stunt 1: Felix Leiter and the CIA are monitoring the apartment of the deceased Quantum agent Marcus (a brief remark lets us know that they know that he was killed in the Grenadines), hoping that, though slim odds, Marcus will have left something in his apartment of great value to Quantum; lo and behold, an "agent" slipping something out of a safe and into his pocket is revealed, at the last second, to be a fake; upon being stopped outside of the apartment door, he shoots his pursuers and barrels out through the hallway window.

Felix, fed up with his cramped quarters, the bureaucratic slowdowns, and the seeming incompetence of his fellow agents, rips off his headphones and runs out of the ramshackle surveillance house (located conveniently near the apartment complex) after the henchman -- and we now see that Felix is running on a pair of Cheetah running legs, giving him a leg up on the pursuee. (Felix footage would be made up of a trained Cheetah legs runner, seen only from behind, close shots of Jeffrey Wright from the legs up, and wide shots painstakingly synchronized of both Wright and the runner, digitally spliced together.)

After a pursuit across busy streets, footpaths, and up the breakdown lane of a highway, the henchman is finally cornered near a ledge halfway up an overpass -- and traffic below is fast. The goon takes his last few shots at Leiter, who ducks and slides across to the henchman, bumping into his ankles with the Cheetah legs. The henchman, now off balance, drops his gun and careens over the side, but Felix, supporting himself with one elbow, reaches up with his legs and scissors them between the goon, keeping him pinned, upside down, to the ledge.

Slowly, painstakingly, with his other arm, Felix reaches into the operative's inside coat pocket to fish out what he stole from Marcus's apartment, but the goon thinks fast -- as Leiter pulls it out, the henchman pulls Felix's gun from its holster, but it's too late; Leiter has the goods. With his other arm, Felix unstraps the Cheetah legs from his thighs, sending them -- and the trapped goon -- down into the busy traffic below.

Felix hauls himself up as best he can and looks over the ledge, wincing at the sight of his gorgeous Cheetah legs smashed to bits within the pulpy remains of the Quantum henchman, then looks at what he's retrieved from the dead man's pocket. We don't see what he has clearly, but shock sweeps across Leiter's face; he quickly pulls out his walkie-talkie and radios his superiors, saying that the Quantum man is dead, but they've got a new, and more dangerous, lead.

"Dangerous to who, Leiter?"
"To us!"

Reverse shot of Leiter's trembling hand, as sirens wail in the background, and we finally see his morbid prize: A Department of Defense identity card, registered to one Dr. Emeric Hildebrand.

23 Major Stunt 2: An assault of some kind involving the whole Double-Oh Branch, ideally involving Mr White who is killed. However, in the process, 0011 is also killed and 008 (Goodnight) is heavily injured, leading to her retirement from active service.
24 Major Stunt 3:
25 Finale Stunt:

STUFF

26 Bond's Car (inc. car gadgets):

27 Gadget 1:
28 Gadget 2:

PRODUCTION

29 Director:

30 Music By:

31 Themetune Sung By:
32 Themetune Written By: (if different from themetune singer and soundtrack writer)

33 Titles Designed By:
34 Description of Titles:

Once again, I'm still not wild about these super-detailed sequences. These are supposed to be collaborative efforts, yet paragraphs of detail remove the collaborative effort. Go back to our last Ultimate Bond and look over the Barcelona sequences and how we worked together to hammer them out, and try telling me that we can do exactly that with these ultra-detailed scenes.

[terminus]

When you consider that the PTS sequence would amount to, at most, seven minutes of screentime (similar to that of CR of which I imagine this is an homage to) and the foot-chase with Felix being equivalent to the Madagascar sequences in the same movie, I wouldn't say that this is too much detail.

I've not heard of the girl you've suggested, not convinced about the character yet - it will be interesting to see how she can be written into the treatment.

That's also seven unique participants as far as I can tell.

[tdalton]

When you consider that the PTS sequence would amount to, at most, seven minutes of screentime (similar to that of CR of which I imagine this is an homage to)

That's exactly the kind of vibe that I was going for with the scene. Also, I don't think that it's necessarily too detailed (the initial draft of the scene is significantly longer than the few sentences I posted in the proforma), but if it's deemed to be so, I can scale it back some more. There's really a lot of room in the beginning of the scene for things to be added and background to be set for the scene. All that is really specific is how the scene ends, but I do think there's room in the early parts of the scene to flesh it out some more.

[Mr. Blofeld]

It's fine to be detailed; Tightpants is just whinging because he isn't the project leader...

[terminus]

I'm sure he's got the best interests of the project at heart. We might not agree, but you can't fault him for that.

[Captain Tightpants]

It's fine to be detailed; Tightpants is just whinging because he isn't the project leader...

It has nothing to do with being "project leader". My concerns are the same as the time you wrote that incredibly detailed pre-title sequence, even going so far to include "delicate feminine laughs" from one character - for a project that supposedly values collaboration, the level of detail you people are including doesn't allow for very much.

[terminus]

Calm down, chaps.

But - as has been pointed out many times, CT, the 'delicate feminine laughs' was transcribing a line from the finale of the previous movie, as the two films overlapped. So you can't use that as a criticism, I'm afraid.

As has been pointed out - time and again - for every detailed action sequence we're given, we're given an equal number of those less well fleshed out. And the two action sequences given so far amount to about ten - fifteen minutes of screentime in, presumably, a two hour film. There will be lots of elements and directions to collaborate on in the future - so don't fret. And besides, even though we had input on several scenes in the preceeding, as yet untitled, treatment - they changed from the original suggestion to the eventual product - as did the scenes suggested in UB25 too (re: the Iceland scene). I'd imagine much the same will happen here.

I'd much rather a full scene that people are picturing in their head with their knowledge that it could change to suit the needs of the project, than a brief description of one or two lines that we struggle to flesh out into a more detailed sequence.

And, were I want to do so, I could levy the criticism that your description of your heroine influences and suggests an action sequence.

[Captain Tightpants]

And, were I want to do so, I could levy the criticism that your description of your heroine influences and suggests an action sequence.

What I'm trying to do is put ideas out there, to lay a foundation so that someone can build upon it. Minkova will have a role to play in the story: she is a ballerina and someone tries to poison her (the use of grayanotoxin was just for the "touch of the bizarre" that is prolofic in Fleming's works), which somehow prompts her to join Bond and his cause. What I'm not doing is buiding an entire house and saying "Well, you can paint it - is that collaborative enough for you?". I'm trying to give people a direction for the story to go, something to keep in mind when it comes time to write the actual treatment. I'm not dictating the entire course of a chracter's arc.

And to answer your other question about who Inna Korobkina is, she was in the 2004 re-make of DAWN OF THE DEAD. She gives birth to a zombie baby after being infected. Trashy, I know, but Zack Snyder was at the helm. That's probably her biggest acting credit to date. But then, I like it when Bond takes relative unknowns.

[terminus]

I am not going to be dragged into this argument again because it's just going to get us into the same circle of arguments. I have stated my points in the previous post about why I don't mind the detailed synopsis of an action sequence and I stick to them.

[tdalton]

I don't see how this can be viewed as anything other than a collaborative project anyway. Just look at the last project, where the villain was changed from an actual person to someone who didn't even exist. Even though I did, at the time, think the idea was intriguing and worth exploring, it didn't in any way resemble what had originally been put in the proforma for the villain. The villain and henchman relationship in the finished product was so far removed from what was initially submitted that I could go back and put the exact same characters into this proforma (names changed, obviously) and it would still feel rather original and provide something different for this project as compared to the last. That, to me, is the definition of collaborative.

I felt like there was plenty of room to work within the sequence that I "detailed" for the PTS (it's not very specific at all, save for a line of dialogue towards the end), but I think maybe I'll just save the specifics that I've developed for my own fan fiction story.

Since it appears as though we're deciding not to be specific at all, I'll change my initial post to reflect that:

THE HILDEBRAND RARITY

1 Bond - Daniel Craig

2 Bond Girl 1 (Main ie Vesper/Camille): Inna Korobkina as Yelena Minkova, a Belorussian prima donna ballerina performing in an adaptation of The Daughter of the Snows. She falls in with Bond after surviving an assassination attempt in a case of mistaken identity, having been poisoned with grayanotoxin (a poison derived from honey pollinated by the rhodendron flower). She always wears a scarf to conceal a surgical scar running around her neck after she had an operation on her thyroid, also known as a "Chernobyl necklace"; she survived the accident at Pripyat as a young girl. When the scarf has been removed, it looks as if someone has tried to decapitate her.
3 Bond Girl 2 (Minor ie Solange/Fields):
4 Bond Girl 3 (Background Girl):

5 Henchman:

6 Villain: Giancarlo Esposito as Henrik Feliz, the leader of a country
7 Villain 2: Jesper Christensen as Mr. White
8 Villain 3: THE HEAD OF QUANTUM (to be decided by group consensus)
9 Villain 4: Melanie Laurent as Quinn (TBC)

10 M: Timothy Dalton
11 Moneypenny: Emily Blunt

12 Ally 1: Yvonne Strahovski as Mary Goodnight, 008
13 Ally 2: Jeffrey Wright as Felix Leiter
14 Ally 3: Max Minghella as Geoffrey Hastings, the new 0011, orphan, ex-RAF, idolises Bond, who sees an uncomfortable amount of himself in the younger man, though with an optimistic belief in the cause that he has since lost.

LOCATIONS - CHINA IS NOT TO BE USED, NOR ARE LOCATIONS IN THE CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

15 Pre-Titles Location:
16 Location 1:
17 Location 2:
18 Location 3:
19 Location 4: Germany (because they have the second largest stockpile of gold outside of the US)

KEY PLOT POINTS

20 Villains Plot: For centuries, many scientists have attempted to find a method of converting lead into gold and vice versa. This has been impossible - until now. A scientist, named Hildebrand, has discovered a chemical process that does the impossible - using a rare chemical isotope/compound known as 'The Hildebrand Rarity'. Our villain seeks to use this process to turn governmental stockpiles of gold into lead - significantly increasing the prices of his own gold stockpiles whilst also creating new-gold using the process.

21 Pre-Title Sequence Stunt: Villain stalks MI6 informant through deserted city streets.

22 Major Stunt 1: Felix Leiter and the CIA are monitoring the apartment of the deceased Quantum agent Marcus (a brief remark lets us know that they know that he was killed in the Grenadines), hoping that, though slim odds, Marcus will have left something in his apartment of great value to Quantum; lo and behold, an "agent" slipping something out of a safe and into his pocket is revealed, at the last second, to be a fake; upon being stopped outside of the apartment door, he shoots his pursuers and barrels out through the hallway window.

Felix, fed up with his cramped quarters, the bureaucratic slowdowns, and the seeming incompetence of his fellow agents, rips off his headphones and runs out of the ramshackle surveillance house (located conveniently near the apartment complex) after the henchman -- and we now see that Felix is running on a pair of Cheetah running legs, giving him a leg up on the pursuee. (Felix footage would be made up of a trained Cheetah legs runner, seen only from behind, close shots of Jeffrey Wright from the legs up, and wide shots painstakingly synchronized of both Wright and the runner, digitally spliced together.)

After a pursuit across busy streets, footpaths, and up the breakdown lane of a highway, the henchman is finally cornered near a ledge halfway up an overpass -- and traffic below is fast. The goon takes his last few shots at Leiter, who ducks and slides across to the henchman, bumping into his ankles with the Cheetah legs. The henchman, now off balance, drops his gun and careens over the side, but Felix, supporting himself with one elbow, reaches up with his legs and scissors them between the goon, keeping him pinned, upside down, to the ledge.

Slowly, painstakingly, with his other arm, Felix reaches into the operative's inside coat pocket to fish out what he stole from Marcus's apartment, but the goon thinks fast -- as Leiter pulls it out, the henchman pulls Felix's gun from its holster, but it's too late; Leiter has the goods. With his other arm, Felix unstraps the Cheetah legs from his thighs, sending them -- and the trapped goon -- down into the busy traffic below.

Felix hauls himself up as best he can and looks over the ledge, wincing at the sight of his gorgeous Cheetah legs smashed to bits within the pulpy remains of the Quantum henchman, then looks at what he's retrieved from the dead man's pocket. We don't see what he has clearly, but shock sweeps across Leiter's face; he quickly pulls out his walkie-talkie and radios his superiors, saying that the Quantum man is dead, but they've got a new, and more dangerous, lead.

"Dangerous to who, Leiter?"
"To us!"

Reverse shot of Leiter's trembling hand, as sirens wail in the background, and we finally see his morbid prize: A Department of Defense identity card, registered to one Dr. Emeric Hildebrand.

23 Major Stunt 2: An assault of some kind involving the whole Double-Oh Branch, ideally involving Mr White who is killed. However, in the process, 0011 is also killed and 008 (Goodnight) is heavily injured, leading to her retirement from active service.
24 Major Stunt 3:
25 Finale Stunt:

STUFF

26 Bond's Car (inc. car gadgets):

27 Gadget 1:
28 Gadget 2:

PRODUCTION

29 Director:

30 Music By:

31 Themetune Sung By:
32 Themetune Written By: (if different from themetune singer and soundtrack writer)

33 Titles Designed By:
34 Description of Titles:

Edited by tdalton, 27 October 2010 - 01:35 PM.

[terminus]

I think it's a shame you've withdrawn your fully fleshed out version of the PTS - I, and others, thought it was very good and saw no harm in the level of detail provided. I will need to go back and copy and paste it when it comes to do the treatment.