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#391 tdalton

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 03:49 AM

Very well done, terminus. :tup:

I thought that it was an especially nice touch to have the villain actually present at Bond's initial briefing with M. That would be something that would be very interesting to see on screen.

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 05:45 AM

I'm with tdalton. A truly commendable job, terminus. :)

I'm looking forward to seeing what Captain Tightpants does with the treatment for UB25 should he end up going through with it. He has a very distinct style and it'll be interesting to see how it lends itself to whatever unpredictable assortment of ideas we all come up with the next time around.

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 01:00 PM

I think I'm crashing for the night. If UBOND-25 goes up some time in the next eight hours, save a good one - villain or plot - for me, yeah?

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 01:03 PM

And - so our new round begins. Let the game resume.

Ultimate Bond 23: Talk of the Devil
Ultimate Bond 24: The Property of a Lady

And with the production of 'The Property of a Lady' we've reached the end of the second round of the game with, what has ended up being, a pretty interesting movie. Now, as before, we go back to the beginning with an empty pro-forma and begin the process again - with the following change. We will retain Dalton as M and, this time, Emily Blunt as Moneypenny - this is a sequel to the two treatments that we've already come up with. The idea is that there are several fields that need to be filled in - everyone copies the list from the person before them, fills in ONE FIELD and posts their adjusted list. Over fifteen people, the building blocks of a Bond movie will be formed. If we get about ten people having filled in - then we can go back and everyone can have one more selection.

You do not need to fill the fields in in order.In the case of items such as Bond Girl 1 - you get to pick both the name of the character and the actor.For the sake of the project, as with the previous two rounds, the title of the movie can be decided afterwards when everything else has been decided. Locations should be logical and sensible (again, no selection of 'the moon' this time, please) and stunts should avoid being tied to a specific location.But here is the list. Here we go, I'll start us off:

CAST

1 Bond - Daniel Craig
2 Bond Girl 1 (Main ie Vesper/Camille):
3 Bond Girl 2 (Minor ie Solange/Fields):
4 Bond Girl 3 (Background Girl):
5 Henchman:6 Henchman 2:
7 Villain:
8 M - Timothy Dalton
9 Miss Moneypenny - Emily Blunt
10 Ally 1:

LOCATIONS

11 Pre-Titles Location:
12 Location 1:
13 Location 2:
14 Location 3:
15 Location 4:
16 Location 5:

KEY PLOT POINTS

17 Villains Plot: After discovering that a shift in tectonic plates could cause a land bridge to form between China and Taiwan, the villain, in league with rogue Chinese factions, plans to raise this land bridge and allow an invasion of Taiwan by communist forces.

I have borrowed this plot from a precursor to this thread that you can find archived under 'Rubies Are Forever'. I believe Scaramanga was the poster to suggest the plot.

18 Pre-Title Sequence Stunt:
19 Major Stunt 1:
20 Major Stunt 2:
21 Major Stunt 3:
22 Finale Stunt:

STUFF

23 Bond's Car (inc. car gadgets):
24 Gadget 1:
25 Gadget 2:
26 Gadget 3:

PRODUCTION

27 Director:
28 Writer:
29 Music By:
30 Themetune Sung By:
31 Themetune Written By:
32 Title Sequence Designed By:
33 Title Sequence Description (whether it's like another sequence, or if you can describe it - or point to a video that it'd be like):

#395 tdalton

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 03:41 PM

I was poking around on Wikipedia for some ideas for a Bond girl, mainly looking for any Fleming characters that hadn't been adapted to the big screen, and clicked on Mary Goodnight's character page (yes, she's been on the big screen, but seeing as how the characterization of her in TMWTGG wasn't particularly great, and with this being a reboot, I thought she could get another go). It's been a long time since I've read any of the novels that she's been in, but it says on the Wikipedia (whether or not it's true, I'd have to go back and read the books again) that she was once in the Women's Royal Naval Service before joining MI6 as the secretary to the 00s. My thought was maybe to have her appear in her pre-secretary days as a Naval officer of some sort who helps Bond in the field on this assignment. I'm thinking a much tougher Goodnight than we have seen in the films, which I think is reflected in the casting of Strahovski, making for a character that could easily fit in with the style of the Craig films.



CAST

1 Bond - Daniel Craig
2 Bond Girl 1 (Main ie Vesper/Camille): Yvonne Strahovski as Mary Goodnight
3 Bond Girl 2 (Minor ie Solange/Fields):
4 Bond Girl 3 (Background Girl):
5 Henchman:6 Henchman 2:
7 Villain:
8 M - Timothy Dalton
9 Miss Moneypenny - Emily Blunt
10 Ally 1:

LOCATIONS

11 Pre-Titles Location:
12 Location 1:
13 Location 2:
14 Location 3:
15 Location 4:
16 Location 5:

KEY PLOT POINTS

17 Villains Plot: After discovering that a shift in tectonic plates could cause a land bridge to form between China and Taiwan, the villain, in league with rogue Chinese factions, plans to raise this land bridge and allow an invasion of Taiwan by communist forces.

I have borrowed this plot from a precursor to this thread that you can find archived under 'Rubies Are Forever'. I believe Scaramanga was the poster to suggest the plot.

18 Pre-Title Sequence Stunt:
19 Major Stunt 1:
20 Major Stunt 2:
21 Major Stunt 3:
22 Finale Stunt:

STUFF

23 Bond's Car (inc. car gadgets):
24 Gadget 1:
25 Gadget 2:
26 Gadget 3:

PRODUCTION

27 Director:
28 Writer:
29 Music By:
30 Themetune Sung By:
31 Themetune Written By:
32 Title Sequence Designed By:
33 Title Sequence Description (whether it's like another sequence, or if you can describe it - or point to a video that it'd be like):

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 04:17 PM

Excellent choice, tdalton. I do like the extrapolation idea of Goodnight as RN (or possibly Australian Navy).

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 04:25 PM

Blast, tdalton, you stole my Bond Girl 1 idea! I guess I'll just have to use her for Bond Girl 2, instead. ;)

CAST

1 Bond - Daniel Craig
2 Bond Girl 1 (Main ie Vesper/Camille): Yvonne Strahovski as Mary Goodnight
3 Bond Girl 2 (Minor ie Solange/Fields): Emmanuelle Chriqui as Caesura Scarlett
4 Bond Girl 3 (Background Girl):
5 Henchman:6 Henchman 2:
7 Villain:
8 M - Timothy Dalton
9 Miss Moneypenny - Emily Blunt
10 Ally 1:

LOCATIONS

11 Pre-Titles Location:
12 Location 1:
13 Location 2:
14 Location 3:
15 Location 4:
16 Location 5:

KEY PLOT POINTS

17 Villains Plot: After discovering that a shift in tectonic plates could cause a land bridge to form between China and Taiwan, the villain, in league with rogue Chinese factions, plans to raise this land bridge and allow an invasion of Taiwan by communist forces.

I have borrowed this plot from a precursor to this thread that you can find archived under 'Rubies Are Forever'. I believe Scaramanga was the poster to suggest the plot.

18 Pre-Title Sequence Stunt:
19 Major Stunt 1:
20 Major Stunt 2:
21 Major Stunt 3:
22 Finale Stunt:

STUFF

23 Bond's Car (inc. car gadgets):
24 Gadget 1:
25 Gadget 2:
26 Gadget 3:

PRODUCTION

27 Director:
28 Writer:
29 Music By:
30 Themetune Sung By:
31 Themetune Written By:
32 Title Sequence Designed By:
33 Title Sequence Description (whether it's like another sequence, or if you can describe it - or point to a video that it'd be like):
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 06:31 PM

Excellent choice, tdalton. I do like the extrapolation idea of Goodnight as RN (or possibly Australian Navy).


Perhaps Australian Navy would be the best way to go, since Strahovski is Australian, but given that she does an excellent American accent (honestly, I had no idea she wasn't American until I heard her speak somewhere other than on CHUCK), I would imagine that she could do a solid British accent as well.

Either way, though, I think that it would serve as an improvement over the previous depiction of Goodnight on the big screen.


Blast, tdalton, you stole my Bond Girl 1 idea! I guess I'll just have to use her for Bond Girl 2, instead. ;)


Sorry. Very good choice, though. :tup: :)

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 08:08 PM

Now that's a plot I can get behind...anyhoo, Villain added.

CAST

1 Bond - Daniel Craig
2 Bond Girl 1 (Main ie Vesper/Camille): Yvonne Strahovski as Mary Goodnight
3 Bond Girl 2 (Minor ie Solange/Fields): Emmanuelle Chriqui as Caesura Scarlett
4 Bond Girl 3 (Background Girl):
5 Henchman:6 Henchman 2:
7 Villain: Michael Nyqvist as Wilhelm Krause, German construction magnate with an interest in chessboxing
8 M - Timothy Dalton
9 Miss Moneypenny - Emily Blunt
10 Ally 1:

LOCATIONS

11 Pre-Titles Location:
12 Location 1:
13 Location 2:
14 Location 3:
15 Location 4:
16 Location 5:

KEY PLOT POINTS

17 Villains Plot: After discovering that a shift in tectonic plates could cause a land bridge to form between China and Taiwan, the villain, in league with rogue Chinese factions, plans to raise this land bridge and allow an invasion of Taiwan by communist forces.

I have borrowed this plot from a precursor to this thread that you can find archived under 'Rubies Are Forever'. I believe Scaramanga was the poster to suggest the plot.

18 Pre-Title Sequence Stunt:
19 Major Stunt 1:
20 Major Stunt 2:
21 Major Stunt 3:
22 Finale Stunt:

STUFF

23 Bond's Car (inc. car gadgets):
24 Gadget 1:
25 Gadget 2:
26 Gadget 3:

PRODUCTION

27 Director:
28 Writer:
29 Music By:
30 Themetune Sung By:
31 Themetune Written By:
32 Title Sequence Designed By:
33 Title Sequence Description (whether it's like another sequence, or if you can describe it - or point to a video that it'd be like):

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 08:38 PM

Now THERE'S an interesting casting - certainly in keeping with the casting of the Craig Era on film so far. I did have to look up what the heck chessboxing was. I'm not sure if it's a practical joke on the world or if this sport really exists after checking up on it!

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Chessboxing

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 08:49 PM

Now THERE'S an interesting casting - certainly in keeping with the casting of the Craig Era on film so far. I did have to look up what the heck chessboxing was. I'm not sure if it's a practical joke on the world or if this sport really exists after checking up on it!

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Chessboxing


Yeah, I chose Nyqvist based on his performance in The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, which ironically is being remade for the US possibly with Craig in his role! And yeah he does fit in with the Mikkelsen/Amalric 'known in Europe' actor type.

As for chessboxing, I know, it sounded bizarre when I first heard of it, BUT thinking about it, there is something strangely Fleming-esque in it, with the mix of mental and physical combat. It would make for a unique Bond/Villain (or henchman) "duel" scene.

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 08:56 PM

Yup - it would certainly provide an interesting scene. A nice boxing scene for Craig would certainly please those who enjoyed the swimming trunk scene in Casino Royale. At least, I know it would make me very happy :D

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 09:14 PM

CAST

1 Bond - Daniel Craig
2 Bond Girl 1 (Main ie Vesper/Camille): Yvonne Strahovski as Mary Goodnight
3 Bond Girl 2 (Minor ie Solange/Fields): Emmanuelle Chriqui as Caesura Scarlett
4 Bond Girl 3 (Background Girl):
5 Henchman:6 Henchman 2:
7 Villain: Michael Nyqvist as Wilhelm Krause, German construction magnate with an interest in chessboxing
8 M - Timothy Dalton
9 Miss Moneypenny - Emily Blunt
10 Ally 1:

LOCATIONS

11 Pre-Titles Location:
12 Location 1:
13 Location 2:
14 Location 3:
15 Location 4:
16 Location 5:

KEY PLOT POINTS

17 Villains Plot: After discovering that a shift in tectonic plates could cause a land bridge to form between China and Taiwan, the villain, in league with rogue Chinese factions, plans to raise this land bridge and allow an invasion of Taiwan by communist forces.

I have borrowed this plot from a precursor to this thread that you can find archived under 'Rubies Are Forever'. I believe Scaramanga was the poster to suggest the plot.

18 Pre-Title Sequence Stunt:
19 Major Stunt 1:
20 Major Stunt 2:
21 Major Stunt 3:
22 Finale Stunt:

STUFF

23 Bond's Car (inc. car gadgets):
24 Gadget 1:
25 Gadget 2:
26 Gadget 3:

PRODUCTION

27 Director:
28 Writer: Tim Minear
29 Music By:
30 Themetune Sung By:
31 Themetune Written By:
32 Title Sequence Designed By:
33 Title Sequence Description (whether it's like another sequence, or if you can describe it - or point to a video that it'd be like):

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 09:41 PM

Yup - it would certainly provide an interesting scene. A nice boxing scene for Craig would certainly please those who enjoyed the swimming trunk scene in Casino Royale. At least, I know it would make me very happy :D


No doubt Babs will insist on a couple of slow-motion shots, too!

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 09:59 PM

Okay, If I'm going to write (parts of) this up, I've got a few little requests.

First of all, can you please be specific in what you post? So far, all I know is that the villain is German and likes chess-boxing. That's not very much to go on. For example, this is a character I created:

Ken Watanabe as Minoru Kagome, an ethnic Korean yakuza and practitioner of traditional Chinese medicine.

That, I don't think, is enough. So instead:

Ken Watanabe as Minor Kagome, the leader of a band of toa-kai or ethnic Korean yakuza, as indicated by the tattoo running down his arm, which is either of rose petals or dragon scales, depending on how you look at it. Because of his racial background, he is considered second-class, even within the ranks of the yakuza. He has recently been investigated by the Greek authorities for illegally scuttling ships believed to contain toxic medical waste in the Ionian Sea, but insufficient evidence led to the investigation being dropped. He has served jail time in Japan on low-level witness-tampering charges, but has remained clean ever since. He is not religious, but has expressed an interest in the Kabbalah and millenarism. He is a self-styled poet and an appreciator of Kabuki theatre. Most importantly, he is a follower of traditional Chinese medicine and will often go out of his way to acquire animal parts for it.

It doesn't dictate the plot or the locations; it just gives me a few threads to grasp. I would be able to write in a sequence where Bond follows Kagome into a Kabuki production, using his investigation in Greece to lean on him. I could also have a sequence where Bond follows Kagome as he illegally poaches tigers for their parts. Because as it stands, I knoa no idea how Bond might approach Krause.

Also, I feel the plot is a little unrealistic. Looking at tectonic plate boundaries, there are no fault line running between China and Taiwan, so I doubt a land-bridge could be easily established. I also feel the invasion plot is a little too "Evil Empire". It feels like a pastiche of 1980s action films, where the villains were communists and therefore stupid. If ever China invaded Taiwan, they'd be slapped down almost immediately. If it were me, I'd have Krause compromising the continental shelf off the coast of Taiwan and then attempting a tectonic plate shift between the Filipino and Pacific plates. The resulting earthquake combined with the compromised continental shelf would casue massive devastation as parts of Taiwan - mostly the populated parts - fell into the ocean. In the aftermath, China would race forward with diplomatic, financial and humanitarian aid, binding Taiwan to itself as a de facto state. If Taiwan were to depend on Beijing for its survival, the world would be less likely to react once Chinese troops occupied the island under the pretense of upholding the peace. And when those Chinese troops never left, there would be little the world would be able to do since China would have effectively controlled Taiwan for a year.

But that's just me. If you still want the land-bridge part of the plot, we can do that - but I think dinovelvet would be better off writing those parts, since I think any story I couldn't fully get behind would suffer.

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 10:16 PM

Okay, If I'm going to write (parts of) this up, I've got a few little requests.

First of all, can you please be specific in what you post? So far, all I know is that the villain is German and likes chess-boxing. That's not very much to go on.


Well that was deliberate. It gives you a character but in keeping with the collaborative nature of the game, its vague enough that others can latch their own ideas to. Maybe someone else thinks he should have a twin sister or be in a wheelchair or something. But many Bond films have never gotten that specific about the villain's background. Usually its just the guy is powerful, has a weird fetish, and wants to take over/blow up something or other.

I did want to use the fact that he has a construction empire for something, but again, depends what other people come up with for the rest of the empty slots.

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 10:21 PM

Also, I feel the plot is a little unrealistic. Looking at tectonic plate boundaries, there are no fault line running between China and Taiwan, so I doubt a land-bridge could be easily established. I also feel the invasion plot is a little too "Evil Empire". It feels like a pastiche of 1980s action films, where the villains were communists and therefore stupid. If ever China invaded Taiwan, they'd be slapped down almost immediately. If it were me, I'd have Krause compromising the continental shelf off the coast of Taiwan and then attempting a tectonic plate shift between the Filipino and Pacific plates. The resulting earthquake combined with the compromised continental shelf would casue massive devastation as parts of Taiwan - mostly the populated parts - fell into the ocean. In the aftermath, China would race forward with diplomatic, financial and humanitarian aid, binding Taiwan to itself as a de facto state. If Taiwan were to depend on Beijing for its survival, the world would be less likely to react once Chinese troops occupied the island under the pretense of upholding the peace. And when those Chinese troops never left, there would be little the world would be able to do since China would have effectively controlled Taiwan for a year.

But that's just me. If you still want the land-bridge part of the plot, we can do that - but I think dinovelvet would be better off writing those parts, since I think any story I couldn't fully get behind would suffer.


Unfortunately - what has been put down as the plot by the person who submitted the plot (in this situation, me) is what needs to be used in the end product. For example, I worked with the plot about computational fluid dynamics even thought I may not have enjoyed it - and there may have been castings or locations I would not have made, but I have run with them because that's the nature of the project.

That said, the plot kernel I posted doesn't preclude the tectonic plates in question being the Filipino and Pacific Plates.

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 10:36 PM

Unfortunately - what has been put down as the plot by the person who submitted the plot (in this situation, me) is what needs to be used in the end product. For example, I worked with the plot about computational fluid dynamics even thought I may not have enjoyed it - and there may have been castings or locations I would not have made, but I have run with them because that's the nature of the project.

That said, the plot kernel I posted doesn't preclude the tectonic plates in question being the Filipino and Pacific Plates.


Are we keeping continuity between the "Ultimate Bonds"? Seeing as Taiwan was used as the climactic location last time, and now its popping up again. Though I don't suppose Krause actually has to go there, he could be overseeing things from his Underground Lair ™ halfway across the world.

And with the "stunt" ideas, should we alter it to "action scene or stunt"? It seems to me that not every action scene needs to have a Big Stunt. For example in CR "Bond tries to save Vesper from gunmen in a sinking palazzo in Venice" doesn't have a particular stunt but it's a fun action scene. Obviously people should write something a bit more detailed than, say, "car chase" or "insert fight with henchman here" but it gives the option of being able to do action without having to shoehorn a death-defying leap in there somewhere :)

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 11:34 PM

Indeed, we're trying to keep all of the Ultimate Bond's in continuity - and we have just been there. That said, you're right, Bond doesn't need to go to Taiwan for the plot to involve Taiwan - for example, with 'Talk of the Devil' the plot specified that the villain wanted to place bombs on the oil pipelines on the Alaska/Canada border but that location was never seen. We had a Canadian location - but that was largely incidental and could have been replaced with another location elsewhere with very little negativity to the plot.

And with the "stunt" ideas, should we alter it to "action scene or stunt"? It seems to me that not every action scene needs to have a Big Stunt. For example in CR "Bond tries to save Vesper from gunmen in a sinking palazzo in Venice" doesn't have a particular stunt but it's a fun action scene. Obviously people should write something a bit more detailed than, say, "car chase" or "insert fight with henchman here" but it gives the option of being able to do action without having to shoehorn a death-defying leap in there somewhere :)


I can agree to that - consider it done :)


CAST

1 Bond - Daniel Craig
2 Bond Girl 1 (Main ie Vesper/Camille): Yvonne Strahovski as Mary Goodnight
3 Bond Girl 2 (Minor ie Solange/Fields): Emmanuelle Chriqui as Caesura Scarlett
4 Bond Girl 3 (Background Girl):
5 Henchman:6 Henchman 2:
7 Villain: Michael Nyqvist as Wilhelm Krause, German construction magnate with an interest in chessboxing
8 M - Timothy Dalton
9 Miss Moneypenny - Emily Blunt
10 Ally 1:

LOCATIONS

11 Pre-Titles Location:
12 Location 1:
13 Location 2:
14 Location 3:
15 Location 4:
16 Location 5:

KEY PLOT POINTS

17 Villains Plot: After discovering that a shift in tectonic plates could cause a land bridge to form between China and Taiwan, the villain, in league with rogue Chinese factions, plans to raise this land bridge and allow an invasion of Taiwan by communist forces.

I have borrowed this plot from a precursor to this thread that you can find archived under 'Rubies Are Forever'. I believe Scaramanga was the poster to suggest the plot.

18 Pre-Title Sequence Action Sequence/Stunt:
19 Major Action Sequence/Stunt 1:
20 Major Action Sequence/Stunt 2:
21 Major Action Sequence/Stunt 3:
22 Finale Action Sequence/Stunt:

STUFF

23 Bond's Car (inc. car gadgets):
24 Gadget 1:
25 Gadget 2:
26 Gadget 3:

PRODUCTION

27 Director:
28 Writer: Tim Minear
29 Music By:
30 Themetune Sung By:
31 Themetune Written By:
32 Title Sequence Designed By:
33 Title Sequence Description (whether it's like another sequence, or if you can describe it - or point to a video that it'd be like):

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 02:21 AM

I'm very much liking the suggestion for the villain. The chess-boxing thing does sound like something that Fleming might have put into one of his novels had it been around back then. At the very least, it'll be something very different for a Bond film. All-in-all, this project has the potential to turn into something rather Fleming-esque.

I'm also liking the cast so far. I've never heard of Michael Nyqvist before, but looking at pictures of him on IMDb as well as his resume, he does seem to be a very busy actor, so he's obviously in demand in Europe. Neither Strahovski or Chriqui are household names by any stretch, which would lend the project (if it were to ever actually materialize on the big screen ;)) a sense of freshness that, outside of the Craig films, we don't often see.

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 03:42 AM

I just was never a fan of the Peugeot so we need a new bond car, a car that screams Bond, turns heads, and will be an icon
CAST

1 Bond - Daniel Craig
2 Bond Girl 1 (Main ie Vesper/Camille): Yvonne Strahovski as Mary Goodnight
3 Bond Girl 2 (Minor ie Solange/Fields): Emmanuelle Chriqui as Caesura Scarlett
4 Bond Girl 3 (Background Girl):
5 Henchman:6 Henchman 2:
7 Villain: Michael Nyqvist as Wilhelm Krause, German construction magnate with an interest in chessboxing
8 M - Timothy Dalton
9 Miss Moneypenny - Emily Blunt
10 Ally 1:

LOCATIONS

11 Pre-Titles Location:
12 Location 1:
13 Location 2:
14 Location 3:
15 Location 4:
16 Location 5:

KEY PLOT POINTS

17 Villains Plot: After discovering that a shift in tectonic plates could cause a land bridge to form between China and Taiwan, the villain, in league with rogue Chinese factions, plans to raise this land bridge and allow an invasion of Taiwan by communist forces.

I have borrowed this plot from a precursor to this thread that you can find archived under 'Rubies Are Forever'. I believe Scaramanga was the poster to suggest the plot.

18 Pre-Title Sequence Action Sequence/Stunt:
19 Major Action Sequence/Stunt 1:
20 Major Action Sequence/Stunt 2:
21 Major Action Sequence/Stunt 3:
22 Finale Action Sequence/Stunt:

STUFF

23 Bond's Car (inc. car gadgets): Aston Martin One-77
24 Gadget 1:
25 Gadget 2:
26 Gadget 3:

PRODUCTION

27 Director:
28 Writer: Tim Minear
29 Music By:
30 Themetune Sung By:
31 Themetune Written By:
32 Title Sequence Designed By:
33 Title Sequence Description (whether it's like another sequence, or if you can describe it - or point to a video that it'd be like):

Edited by QOS007, 20 July 2010 - 04:52 AM.


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Posted 20 July 2010 - 05:39 AM

Unfortunately - what has been put down as the plot by the person who submitted the plot (in this situation, me) is what needs to be used in the end product. For example, I worked with the plot about computational fluid dynamics even thought I may not have enjoyed it - and there may have been castings or locations I would not have made, but I have run with them because that's the nature of the project.

That said, the plot kernel I posted doesn't preclude the tectonic plates in question being the Filipino and Pacific Plates.

I understand that, but I can't write something that I know to be impossible. There is simply no way to shift plate tectonics to cause a land-bridge between China and Taiwan to appear. Try as I might, I cannot think of a single scenario where it would be remotely possible. In order for a land bridge to appear, you would need a fault line either side of Taiwan: one on the eastern side to shift westward, and one on the western side to rise up and form the land-bridge. However, there is no fault line running between Taiwan and mainland China, so where the hell is the land-bridge going to come from. I know, you could always write the story so that, for the purposes of the plot, there is a fault line running between China and Taiwan. But maybe it's arrogance on my part, but I simply cannot physically write anything that I know a simple Google search would contradict. It might only be a game on a fan forum, but I take pride in my work. If you can think up a convincing way to cause a land-bridge to exist, then I'm fine. I just like to keep everything in such a way that audiences have to suspend their disbelief as little as possible.

I also need way more detail on things like characters. As it stands, simple names and basic descriptions don't cut it. I need as much material as possible to work with - in the end, it will deliver a better-quality project.

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 05:47 AM

Not to be disrespectful, CT, but terminus was able to churn out a few pretty solid treatments with the bare minimum of details we provided him. So the approach may not be ideal, but it's apparently doable.

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 06:05 AM

Oh, I get that ... but the reason why I'm asking for details is that this is a roject with multiple contributions. It should reflect everyone's vision as much as possible, not simply my interpretation of your ideas.

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 06:51 AM

CAST

1 Bond - Daniel Craig
2 Bond Girl 1 (Main ie Vesper/Camille): Yvonne Strahovski as Mary Goodnight
3 Bond Girl 2 (Minor ie Solange/Fields): Emmanuelle Chriqui as Caesura Scarlett
4 Bond Girl 3 (Background Girl): Ludivine Sagnier as Dana Krause (Wilhelm's wife/ Villainess)
5 Henchman:6 Henchman 2:
7 Villain: Michael Nyqvist as Wilhelm Krause, German construction magnate with an interest in chessboxing
8 M - Timothy Dalton
9 Miss Moneypenny - Emily Blunt
10 Ally 1:

LOCATIONS

11 Pre-Titles Location:
12 Location 1:
13 Location 2:
14 Location 3:
15 Location 4:
16 Location 5:

KEY PLOT POINTS

17 Villains Plot: After discovering that a shift in tectonic plates could cause a land bridge to form between China and Taiwan, the villain, in league with rogue Chinese factions, plans to raise this land bridge and allow an invasion of Taiwan by communist forces.

I have borrowed this plot from a precursor to this thread that you can find archived under 'Rubies Are Forever'. I believe Scaramanga was the poster to suggest the plot.

18 Pre-Title Sequence Action Sequence/Stunt:
19 Major Action Sequence/Stunt 1:
20 Major Action Sequence/Stunt 2:
21 Major Action Sequence/Stunt 3:
22 Finale Action Sequence/Stunt:

STUFF

23 Bond's Car (inc. car gadgets): Aston Martin One-77
24 Gadget 1:
25 Gadget 2:
26 Gadget 3:

PRODUCTION

27 Director:
28 Writer: Tim Minear
29 Music By:
30 Themetune Sung By:
31 Themetune Written By:
32 Title Sequence Designed By:
33 Title Sequence Description (whether it's like another sequence, or if you can describe it - or point to a video that it'd be like):

Edited by Mr.Big, 20 July 2010 - 06:51 AM.


#416 Captain Tightpants

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 10:23 AM

Do we have ten already? Or were some - Bond, M, Moneypeny - carried over from the last game?

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 11:13 AM

We have seven unique participants at the moment. Bond, Moneypenny and M were all carried on from UB24 (and, in M's case, from UB23).

I understand your concerns, CT. However, I've done a simple search online and discovered that there are tectonic plates that run near Taiwan - the Okinawa Plate, runs from the north end of the island to the island of Okinawa whereas the southern end of the Phillipines Mobile Belt runs up the east coast. And that Taiwan itself was formed from a collision between the Yangtze and Phillipines plate. Surely something can be made of that?

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 11:34 AM

My understanding of the plot is that Krause has been commissioned to cause a tectonic plate movement that will result in a mountain range rising up from the ocean between Taiwan and China, thus connecting the two pieces of land. The problem with this is that although there are plenty of tectonic plate boundaries north, south and east of the island, there is nothing to the west. In order to force a mountain range to rise up from the depths, Krause would need to cause some kind of tectonic plate movement on the eastern fault lines. This would need to be controlled in such a way that Taiwan would be forced westward into the fault line running between it and China. As the two plates exerted pressure on one another, they would force each other upwards, creating the mountain range. However, going by this graphic, there is no tectonic plate boundary separating Taiwan from China (it may, however, only show major plates).

However, I have come up with a possible solution: to admit that the plan is absolutely impossible. Krause, not the Chinese government or anyone affiliated with it, is specifically listed as the villain. I could write it in such a way that certain elements of the Chinese military are unhappy with the way Beijing is handling Taipei, and so have commissioned Krause - behind closed doors - to cause the land-bridge to form. Krause, however, knows that this is absolutely impossible. The Chinese, on the other hand, are insistent and/or force him into doing it because they've convinced themselves that Taiwan needs to be a part of China and that belief overrides their willingness to look at the science. I like this scenario, because it gives a lot of wiggle room for Krause's character: we can play around with the idea of whether he's really an anti-hero. Of course, in the end, Krause would stage his tectonic plate movement and it would utterly fail. He would then attempt to leave with the money he was paid by the Chinese. Or something. The point is that, while it is indeed the villain's plot, it doesn't have to succeed. It doesn't even have to come close. There won't be a dramatic scene where a mountain range rises up out of the ocean floor - they take millions of years of constant pressure to form; odds are that a single chain of mass explosions along a plate boundary will do little but bounce one plate off another and maybe cause an earthquake - but I think this is probably the best-case scenario that you're looking at if you want the film to remain grounded in reality enough that audiences won't just go "yeah, right" at the sight of it.

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 11:46 AM

Yeah, I think it only shows major plates - THIS suggests that there is an area of plate convergence along the west coast of Taiwan. That being said, your plot extrapolation is correct, the whole concept of raising the plates could be a double-bluff by the villain - we don't need a scene with a mountain rising out of the water as that would be presumably what Bond is fighting to prevent anyway. Maybe Krause DOES just plan an earthquake that would cause a tsunami that would, in league with the earthquake, decimate coastal China, Japan, Taiwan and the Phillipines.

The original Rubies are Forever thread contained a plot thread that involved a joint Royal Navy flotilla steaming into the Straits as tensions build and being put at thread by the possible tsunami and earthquake. Perhaps THIS is the villains true plan - to decimate the joint flotilla and pin the blame on the rogue Chinese faction?

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 12:09 PM

An earthquake/tsunami combination would only really threaten the fleet if they were in shallow water. Otherwise, the energy that causes a tsunami would simply pass straight under them.

However, I could see a plot arising where Krause is actually a sympathiser for an anti-Chinese government movement. He attempts to defraud Beijing by planning to form the land-bridge, knowing full well that it will fail and then revealing the plot to the world to humiliate Beijing and force democracy onto China. I see him as being as naive as he is intelligent, but inadvertently kills hundreds of thousands when his plan to cause a tectonic shift actually works enough to cause an earthquake in Taiwan. Possibly because the Chinese comprimised the continental shelf, causing parts of the island to fall into the ocean (the resulting devastation and China's push to supply aid being a cover for the invastion). Krause, realising he has caused the deaths of hundred of thousands of people, is therefore forced into becoming a villain.