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[007jamesbond]

I cant wait to read this book, but it is still months and months away. So when would we know the title of the book, and some plot and other details not are not yet known? I am guessing late April would be the best time to do it.

[OmarB]

I don't get this whole "can an American writer do justice to Bond" thing. Nobody brings up the same concerns when LeCarre writes characters from wherever, or any other author of note for that matter. We can't judge something we have not seen yet, stay cool and wait for the actual book then complain about the Britishness or lack thereof. From what I've read of Deaver he's pretty good and I can't wait to see what he does.

Edited by OmarB, 07 November 2010 - 04:45 AM.

[terminus]

I agree, OmarB. I have few concerns, if any, about Deaver writing Bond.

[Righty007]

201 days left. Not bad considering we started at 365.

[Captain Tightpants]

Nobody brings up the same concerns when LeCarre writes characters from wherever, or any other author of note for that matter.

I think that's largely because le Carre is writing le Carre's characters. Here, though, Deaver is writing Fleming's.

[zencat]

"Pip pip, cheerio, and all that sort of rot. Look, it's the Queen!"

See. It's easy.

[OmarB]

Yeah Cap, I get that Lecarre is writing his own characters. But like Lecarre, Deaver is no boy in the publishing game. He sells well, he has a large following and from what I have read is quite effective at creating a belivable atmosphere.

Faulks was a dissapointment and his Britishness is not in question, but he screwed up royally. I am more willing to give the the thriller writer a shot at this point.

Truth is we cannot judge a thing from this point except for exesting books ... and even that is no real indication of quality (see Faulks).

[Righty007]

200 days and counting...

[zencat]

Oh, Righty, are you really going to countdown for 200 days?

[terminus]

I wouldn't be surprised if he did

[Righty007]

Oh, Righty, are you really going to countdown for 200 days?

No. I'll just pop in periodically like I did in the manuscript thread. I have a life, trust me.

[TheREAL008]

To be honest I don't really see the issue about the author.

If anyone is expecting Deaver to write EXACTLY like Mr. Fleming then prepare for disappointment. If it's because he's American then some of you should be (somewhat) ashamed. I trust IFP to make the right decisions with Ian's character for good as well as ill. We all really shouldn't be worried or overly concerned with the direction of the new series when we haven't even been given a teaser of what's to come. I don't really care if May is either from India or Pakistan or a three foot demented Irishwoman who occasionally talks to leprechauns in her sleep...I think Mr. Deaver knows what he's doing and that the end result will(possibly) be one of the greatest Bond stories since OHMSS.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained. I've got a feeling that this series will be incredible and will hopefully wash away the Benson era and the Faulk's mishap. But don't sweat the small stuff, be paitent and just wait and see.

[Simon]

Oh, Righty, are you really going to countdown for 200 days?

No. I'll just pop in periodically like I did in the manuscript thread. I have a life, trust me.

Speaking purely from a personal point of view, I do wish you wouldn't.

'Moronic' doesn't even begin to describe your contributions.

[godwulf]

"Pip pip, cheerio, and all that sort of rot. Look, it's the Queen!"

See. It's easy.

Don't forget to begin every other sentence with, "Oh, I say...", and toss in a lot of "bloody"s.

I want Bond to be as British as possible - without resorting to parody or stereotype, of course - but the truth, as I see it, is that our two cultures have become much closer, at least on a surface level, than they were even thirty years ago, let alone in Fleming's day. I trust Jeffrey Deaver, as a proven skilled and smart writer, to avoid giving 007 too much of an "American" perspective and sensibiity - after all, he did quite well with the Germans in Garden of Beasts - and as for getting the occasional factoid wrong, authors do that with their own cultures every day.

One of my major problems with Gardner's stories is the author's tendency to have some character, out of the blue, say, "Or, as our American cousins would put it...", seemingly every few pages. Toward the end, he even had M doing it...which sounded very wrong. Whether these frequent references to American culture and vernacular were the result of JG's having lived in America for so long, or were somehow prompted by his American editors, I have no idea and I really don't care. That I would not expect from Deaver.

Edited by godwulf, 09 November 2010 - 03:04 PM.

[Righty007]

Oh, Righty, are you really going to countdown for 200 days?

No. I'll just pop in periodically like I did in the manuscript thread. I have a life, trust me.

Speaking purely from a personal point of view, I do wish you wouldn't.

'Moronic' doesn't even begin to describe your contributions.

My contributions to the CBn Forums over the past 7 years as well as my contributions as a member of the Team (2004-2008) are well documented. If you take a moment to look at my history here, you'll find that I've been a positive contributor to this community.

I have nothing substantial to add to this topic at the moment due to the fact that there's nothing new to discuss. Therefore a simple and innocent countdown is not unacceptable.

[terminus]

Don't mind him, Righty.

I quite like checking in occasionally and seeing how long it is until the book comes up - get's me excited all over again every time I see the countdown.

[Simon]

Perhaps I should have been more clear.

Your countdown contributions are moronic. Having nothing substantial to offer does not determine the need to offer anything; I am not sure why you draw a line between these two factors.

Your other contributions are, I am sure, of a counter commensurately intelligent level. Probably the envy of all other contributors.

[zencat]

Come on guys, what is this? You know there's a policy against personal attacks, etc. I was hoping I wouldn't have to go in and delate all your posts, now I think I do. Also, it's just depressing to wake up and see the Project X thread back up on top (news of a title maybe!?) and then when I click inside I read this.

And, for the record, I don't mind the occasional reminder of how many days we have left. Occasional being the key word. Every 50 or so. I'm surprised 165 days have past so quickly.

[Simon]

Of course, you are absolutely right.

Upon reflection and for the record, I would actually like daily updates if there is an absence of anything else to report.

[zencat]

Oh, of course!

198 days.

(Sorry, Righty, beat you to it.)

[Simon]

Excellent - precisely the sort of high end journalism I have come to expect.

A point of clarity though; if I happen to report one day my aunt had her carbuncle removed, would this in and of itself constitute a report worthy of negating the need for that particular day's countdown? Clearly this is news unconnected to Deaver but I am guessing the dictum must be relaxed in this case.

[zencat]

Hmmm...not sure about that one. We may require some evidence of said carbuncle.

[Simon]

But if evidence were to be provided, I need to know that this would stem the flow. (Of Righty, not the carbuncle) Also, would reports where evidence is not a key issue also be sufficient to the good and the welfare?

Indeed, would reports pertaining to anything other than just Deaver and his book be considered null and void to this agreement?

(You see I am applying myself diligently to this task...?)

[Righty007]

The level of douchebaggery in this thread is overwhelming.

[zencat]

Yeah, we need to get back on track. Deaver is in Japan. Does that do anything for us?

I'm surprised we haven't seen a pre-order page appear on the U.S. Amazon yet. They have pre-order pages for Deaver books beyond Project X. Maybe they don't want to list until there's a proper title?

[terminus]

Yeah - you can preorder on Amazon UK, can't you? I'd have thought there'd be on on Amazon USA.

[Righty007]

'Project X' U.S. edition hits Amazon with teaser cover art

WOAH!

Thank you, zencat!

[zencat]

I was just about to post. Pretty sweet, eh.

'Project X' U.S. edition hits Amazon with teaser cover art

WOAH!

Thank you, zencat!

[terminus]

As I said on facebook - that is awesome, possibly more awesome than the UK version.

[Righty007]

As I said on facebook - that is awesome, possibly more awesome than the UK version.

Yeah, the Amazon.co.uk one is the same one we've already seen on the Project X website.