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[JimmyBond]

I called this a while back; I'm really not surprised.

At least I can say I'm happy with Craig's two films, it's a shame he never made a Bond film with the gunbarrel at the beginning, but in the grand scheme of things that's quite unimportant.

Back to the General Discussion forum for me

[DAN LIGHTER]

Disastrous. The ineptitude displayed in running that studio has finally bled down to the worst, possible result.

I guess there's no reason things couldn't turn around in a month, or more, or less. This could also be a bit of rhetorical strong-arming by EON, perhaps? Issuing strong words of "indefinite suspension" perhaps to get the business interests moving a little quicker in resolving the situation? Forcing them to wake up on the issue, and see the urgency?

No one, no one involved wants there to not be a Bond 23. It's a cash cow. Perhaps EON is as fed up as we are, and as this statement will no doubt generate monstrous backlash in the fan and movie-going community, they're hoping that backlash will prompt quicker action on the other side of MGM. The appetite for Bond remains intense, as usual - maybe this is a move in hopes of demonstrating just how intense that appetite is?

Am I being overly optimistic?

But damnit. Damn you, rich asswipes, ruining a studio and jeopardizing a franchise you obviously don't care about nearly as much as the rest of us losers!

Nice to here someone on here calling studios "rich asswipes". I will use that term tomorrow. We dont use the word asswipe enough do we.

Joking aside, I think you are right in what you say. I think EON just want to get going on this, after all, its what they do.

[zencat]

Time to party like it's 1989.

[Rufus Ffolkes]

Can't say that I'm surprised. MGM taking over UA is the single worst thing to happen to the Bond series.

[The Dove]

(still guardingly cautious that this may be another hoax...please confirm anyone?? Spynovelfan?...)

If it isn't then: DAMN and BLAST MGM...this puts a crimp on an otherwise pretty good day! *Sigh* Hopefully things will get going again soon!! So I think it's safe to chuck all the rumors out the window..Sam Mendes (if he is indeed involved) may walk off the project with the delay..so we will have a clean slate...

[Jeff007]

From henceforth, today will be known as Black Monday.

Monday's are hell.

[DamnCoffee]

MGM, you complete and utter bastards.

They are officially screwed. Bond has been the only thing keeping them out of bankruptcy.

[Ambler]

If the delay is lengthy then Eon is going to need a new angle to sell the film.

That may mean a new Bond.

[MattofSteel]

Not to lend credence to recent rubbish/rumors or resurrect long-dead hypotheticals....

...but isn't it weird that this always seems to happen when they're potentially trying to make "The Property of a Lady?"

Omen?

[DAN LIGHTER]

(still guardingly cautious that this may be another hoax...please confirm anyone?? Spynovelfan?...)

If it isn't then: DAMN and BLAST MGM...this puts a crimp on an otherwise pretty good day! *Sigh* Hopefully things will get going again soon!! So I think it's safe to chuck all the rumors out the window..Sam Mendes (if he is indeed involved) may walk off the project with the delay..so we will have a clean slate...

Yep, SNF is needed, I know we have goggle but SNF knows how to follow it all to the real source.

Use your anger in a positive manner and vote in the John Gardner 30th anniversary pole here at CBn.

http://debrief.comma...p;#entry1101097

Edited by DAN LIGHTER, 19 April 2010 - 09:27 PM.

[tdalton]

Sad news indeed. At least we got 2 films with Craig in the role, although, quite sadly, my two favorite Bonds got to make a grand total of 4 films between them.

[Tybre]

Why the hell did MGM need a lot of extensions, anyway?

Same reason Hicks & Gillett kept asking for extensions with Liverpool. They needed time to get their together. Unfortunately, unlike Liverpool's ownership, MGM have failed to do so. Can't say I'm really surprised. Once they started saying the auctions were falling through I was expecting something like this to happen. Now to see if MGM collapses, or that was an unfounded premise. More than likely though, the former will prove true.

[DamnCoffee]

If the delay is lengthy then Eon is going to need a new angle to sell the film.

That may mean a new Bond.

No way.

They won't do that.

[Jeff007]

MGM is nothing but trouble. Damn it!!

[The Dove]

(still guardingly cautious that this may be another hoax...please confirm anyone?? Spynovelfan?...)

If it isn't then: DAMN and BLAST MGM...this puts a crimp on an otherwise pretty good day! *Sigh* Hopefully things will get going again soon!! So I think it's safe to chuck all the rumors out the window..Sam Mendes (if he is indeed involved) may walk off the project with the delay..so we will have a clean slate...

Yep, SNF is needed, I know we have goggle but SNF knows how to follow it all to the real source.

Use your anger in a positive manner and vote in the John Gardner 30th anniversary pole here at CBn.

http://debrief.comma...p;#entry1101097

Thanks Dan..*sniff,sniff* still upset... but I've got other things going to keep my mind occupied for a bit..NBA and NHL playoffs are hot here in my neck of the woods (Denver Nuggets and Colorado Avalanche are in) and the upcoming NFL draft is this week too.. so sports will be a huge comfort to me for a bit..

[DamnCoffee]

I'm surprised EON has stuck with them for so long. If Bond 23 does begin production, then it better not be with them. MGM as of now, is the most, incompetent and disgraceful thing I have ever laid my eyes on.

They've always had troubles, and more fool EON for sticking by them. I am so angry.

[Skudor]

If this is sorted within a year, Craig is most certainly still Bond. Probably also if it takes two, or three. So my guess is that Craig is still in - this won't affect whether he does one more, but whether he does more than that.

The key issue for MGM is that their creditors seem willing to endlessly extend, presumably as anything is better for them than bankruptcy. That's bad news. The good news is that there's nothing in it for the creditors if MGM is inactive and only generating cash from DVDs etc. So something has to happen - just not right away.

One caveat could be if the eventual solution for MGM has some legal implications for the EON/MGM deal... court cases and all that.

I need my solace.

[JimmyBond]

If the delay is lengthy then Eon is going to need a new angle to sell the film.

That may mean a new Bond.

No way.

They won't do that.

Say's who? And even if EON were wanting Craig in a third Bond, who's to say he'd be up to it after a lengthy break? Believe me I'd love Craig to be in a third film, but after both Dalton and Brosnan making far less films than I expected (and wanted), I'm fully prepared to accept the fact that QoS could be Craig's swan song.

[zencat]

MGM needs to go. Now, with bidders and potential investors hearing Eon is not secretly readying a Bond film behind the scenes, maybe they will finally walk and let MGM DIE!

[Jeff007]

MGM needs to go. Now, with bidders and potential investors hearing Eon is not secretly readying a Bond film behind the scenes, maybe they will finally walk and let MGM DIE!

Agreed. They have been nothing but trouble for the last decade.

[zencat]

I just checked and Empire are quoting comingsoon as the source. Which makes me think how come an obscure website like comingsoon get the press release an no one else?

They all get it from here. This is where press releases are posted. It's a wire.

http://prnewswirefil...definitely.html

[tdalton]

I just checked and Empire are quoting comingsoon as the source. Which makes me think how come an obscure website like comingsoon get the press release an no one else?

http://www.empireonl...y.asp?NID=27615

Comingsoon.net is not an obscure website. Their track record is very good, and they have hundreds of thousands of visitors daily, including myself.

Agreed. I check the site everyday as well, and have found it to be quite a reliable source of information for a while now.

I had expected that this news was coming as soon as the rumors of MGM's most recent troubles began to surface, but that sure doesn't lessen the blow at all when you find yourself actually staring at the text that says there won't be a Bond 23 (or at least there won't anytime within the near to intermediate future).

[The Dove]

What pisses me off the most is how did a stupid movie like Hot Tub Time Machine get priority over it's release than Bond 23??

[MattofSteel]

This is most certainly not a hoax of any kind.

[Ambler]

The ownership of Eon is unclear to me, but must be key to this debate.

I understand that Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson's interests are administered through Danjaq LLC, but does Danjaq own 100% of Eon? I assume MGM's continued leverage comes through the fact that it also owns a stake in Eon Productions, possibly dating back to Harry Saltzman's departure.

[Napoleon Solo]

I'm surprised EON has stuck with them for so long. If Bond 23 does begin production, then it better not be with them. MGM as of now, is the most, incompetent and disgraceful thing I have ever laid my eyes on.

They've always had troubles, and more fool EON for sticking by them. I am so angry.

It's not like Eon had a choice. They didn't.

United Artists bought out Harry Saltzman. MGM picked up that interest when it acquired UA. Eon is stuck with MGM unless MGM is forced to file for bankruptcy and, possibly, is forced to divest its Bond interest as part of the bankruptcy process.

Until that (or some other scenario) occurs, Eon has no choice. None.

[tdalton]

Also, just a thought...but what if EON came back after the MGM situation was resolved and, to help audiences catch up on their Bond fix, filmed back-to-back 007 movies, releasing them within a year of each other? It was done with LORD OF THE RINGS and PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN. Why not Bond?

Normally I'd be against the idea, but if there was a way to squeeze out another Bond film with Craig in the lead, I'd say go for it.

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Bond 23 delayed indefinitely

Eon Productions release statement suspending development

[Single-O-Seven]

EON should go independant. With Bond and a few other projects they could grow strong enough to support themselves, I'm sure.

But I saw this coming. Everything is reeking of the Dalton era, exactly 20 years on. But there's still time for this to blow over, and for work to continue. We hope.

[DamnCoffee]

Why can't MGM just sell Bond? It's their only way out. Let's face it. James Bond is a cash cow, and could possibly be the only way to stop them from filing bankruptcy. Think how much it could go for.