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[JimmyBond]

I was watching Quantum of Solace last night and one thing I kept thinking was: "I'm really anxious to see where they go with the next one." For the first time in years I'm not worried about how the next film will turn out (all during Brosnan's tenure I was worried the next film would keep filling us up with action...but now I enjoy them, go figure). Craig was a mixed bag at first, sure I supported him as Bond, but that was more out of loyalty to the franchise than anything, I wasnt sure how he'd fair in the role.

Now that we've got two films out of him (as noted elsewhere, I loved QoS), I am eagerly anticipating the next one. Also kind of hoping they got the whole "Bond begins" storyline out of their system. I'm not saying the next film needs to be business as usual, but I'd like to see them go back to the old days...Bond gets a mission, Bond goes on the mission. End of story. Just because it may not be personal for JB doesnt mean they can't develope the character of Bond...but that's a topic for another thread.

It kind of bites that we have to wait an extra year for the next one. But I'm hoping we'll get Craig's Goldfinger, just a fun ride through and through.

[marktmurphy]

CR was great, fresh and was an exciting; but almost immediately with QoS they looked like they'd run out of ideas of what to do with him. I'm a bit nervous; already this new series needs refreshing. The next film has to be much better.

[SecretAgentFan]

I loved CR and QOS. But I agree completely: the next one will be very important for the future of the Craig era.

CR and QOS, basically, was one large story. But now they have to react to the "business as usual"-element of the Bond films.

But am I happy with his era so far? Couldn´t be happier, actually.

[O.H.M.S.S.]

I love the way the series go right now, I love CR and QOS a great lot. But I do think it's time for some sort of GF or TSWLM for Craig and then maybe give a chance to another actor to put on the tuxedo to keep things fresh and vivid.

Edited by O.H.M.S.S., 16 December 2009 - 11:10 AM.

[sharpshooter]

Following up Casino Royale was always going to be a tough ask. Anything they offered was going to look like a comedown. To tell you the truth, I cannot see any future Craig film reaching the high standard set by Casino Royale.

I don’t think Quantum of Solace is in the vicinity of Casino Royale, but I still view it as a good Bond film. I'm not sure if it's a good sequel, though.

I do think it's a better quality than most; just that it’s not great. I feel it could have been better. I know it could have been better. Hopefully Bond 23 can remedy that.

In any case, I am satisfied with Craig's era so far.

[SecretAgentFan]

You only want Craig to do one more, O.H.M.S.S.?

[O.H.M.S.S.]

You only want Craig to do one more, O.H.M.S.S.?

Don't get me wrong I love him as Bond and I love both of his Bond films, but I'm afraid that we might get a lesser Bond film with Craig if he goes on doing 5 or 6 episodes. In the past, actors who stayed in the role longer then three films (with the exception of Connery) always had a lesser film in their tenure, Brosnan got Die Another Day; Moore got Moonraker and some might argue the quality of Connery's You Only Live Twice or Diamonds Are Forever. I would rather like to see Craig have three quality Bond pictures and then freshen things up.

[Simon]

No matter what one's tastes are for the output, I think we must be able to agree that, as a series, the producers are well and truly at the top of their game in terms of being able to withstand commercial (studio) pressure and to constantly reinvent while there is no commercial need to.

They appear to be heading towards and amining for quality, no matter how that directorially manifests itself, over and above simple retreads.

I was watching CR the other night with the Wilson / Campbell commentary on, I do feel Wilson is an exceptionally smart chap and so to answer the question, while I have no idea whether I, Simon, will actually like the next film, I do feel it is all going in the generally right direction.

[B. Brown]

I don't have much of a problem with Daniel Craig. He's done pretty well as Bond, as far as acting goes. But they need to ditch the piss-poor writers. Enough of this renegade Bond bull[censored]. If you're going to make a 106 minute non-stop action/adventure, at least include some interesting characterization to give the film a bit of depth. Enough of this breaking into M's apartment and disobeying the orders of your superiors. That isn't James Bond - that's Jason Bourne. Wrong film.

Fleming's Bond never told his superiors, "I'll do my best", in regards to killing leads. Neither did the other Bond actors.

[bond 16.05.72]

I think Craig's next film should be more laid back than QOS but I certainly don't want Craig's GF, it amazes me and I'm not on my own the praise that film receives.

The TLD vibe would be fine for a Craig entry, I'd agree that QOS has an element of Bourne about it but I still think it is good, CR still remains my favourite entry.

I can't say I ever expect Chinatown from Bond and some people just want Fleming pure Bond films, you aren't going to get them, this is for a mass audience not a bunch of fan boys with wet dreams about hard boiled IF adaptations. Maybe one day we'll see faithful takes but Bond is still a financial success whether you like it or not so no chance at the moment.

I also find it amusing how some can go from thinking CR is amazing to now criticising it all the time. There is changing your opinion but I happen to know some opinions have changed so drastically you have to ask who they are trying to impress.

[BryanHerbert]

I love what Daniel Craig has brought to the series, I love his portrayal as James Bond.He is one of the best bonds so far. Way better than Moore, Dalton, Or Lazenby. I hope they stay away from all of the love in the next movie. If they could do that, I'd be happy. The bond movies aren't supposed to be a love story lol I want the next movie to be like a Connery movie, Good plot, Great villains, Hot girls, Killing, and Martinis. I notice in the newer bond movies that the villains aren't really that mysterious or cool in anyway, for example, Dominic Greene. He was a boring as watching paint dry. All in all, Daniel Craig has made the bond movies more of a success today.

Edited by BryanHerbert, 16 December 2009 - 02:42 PM.

[00Twelve]

Very excited about where things are headed. They've told a thorough and engaging story about how Bond came to be that which we know, and they're ready to re-enter the realm of the established-Bond adventure. I'm very excited to see where the series is going.

Though, again, I'd be content if they finished Craig's tenure and the series as a whole with a real adaptation of YOLT and let that be the end.

[David Schofield]

While it might be nice to ponder the next film being Craig's Goldfinger or Thunderball, perhaps we should ask could Craig do a more relaxed film in that vein?

Or does his Bondian range limit him to driven, intense, hyper torment (of one form or another)?

No point in trying to play Hamlet if you'd be no good at it, is there?

[zencat]

I think QOS was a bit of a mis-step in the great tradition of #2 films. But I think they'll course correct for #3.

[jaguar007]

While it might be nice to ponder the next film being Craig's Goldfinger or Thunderball, perhaps we should ask could Craig do a more relaxed film in that vein?

Or does his Bondian range limit him to driven, intense, hyper torment (of one form or another)?

No point in trying to play Hamlet if you'd be no good at it, is there?

Of course Craig could do a more relaxed type Bond. Just watch his scenes in CR, especially in the Bahamas. The guy is totally cool.

[Trident]

While it might be nice to ponder the next film being Craig's Goldfinger or Thunderball, perhaps we should ask could Craig do a more relaxed film in that vein?

Or does his Bondian range limit him to driven, intense, hyper torment (of one form or another)?

No point in trying to play Hamlet if you'd be no good at it, is there?

Wouldn't a Craig Goldfinger be more Falstaff?



I'm very happy with the current direction, loved CR and adored QOS (despite both of course do have some issues). What I would like to see for Craig's third outing would be a film as intense as these, yet different from the previous two. Intense and driven in a different way.

[Tarl_Cabot]

I love it so far. Two great films. I hope the third gives us a Bond who is totally on his game and TRUSTED by his bosses. No more Jack Bauer catch and release nonsense. Bond is MI6 now!

I'm very happy with this era. I haven't been so happy since '87-'89 and these two films are much better.

James Bond will return

[Eric Stromberg]

For the first time in years I'm not worried about how the next film will turn out

It kind of bites that we have to wait an extra year for the next one. But I'm hoping we'll get Craig's Goldfinger, just a fun ride through and through.

Very close to my own thoughts. The creative team seems renewed and rejuvenated after the uneven Brosnan run and really on their game. The fact that they brought in Marc Forster to direct QOS tells me they are serious about making very elevated entertainment. I'm not worried about where the next one is going, just excited to experience it!

I've largely appreciated the return to a more grounded Bond in CR and QOS, but I'm hoping for some fun and flair in the next chapter. After the somber story covered in the first two films it's time to open the throttle and see what this baby can do.

[Major D.Smythe]

I think he's doing ok so far, I mean he's better than Connery, Lazenby, Moore & Brosnan, but they dropped the ball... make that threw it down, with QOS. So don't balls the next one up as well.

[PrinceKamalKhan]

CR was great, fresh and was an exciting; but almost immediately with QoS they looked like they'd run out of ideas of what to do with him. I'm a bit nervous; already this new series needs refreshing. The next film has to be much better.

My sentiments exactly.

Following up Casino Royale was always going to be a tough ask. Anything they offered was going to look like a comedown. To tell you the truth, I cannot see any future Craig film reaching the high standard set by Casino Royale.

I agree. CR was so fantastic and better than the entire Brosnan era. However, Craig and CR may have been victims of their own success. With expectations raised of high, QOS was an enormous letdown. I will be amazed if they are able to equal or top CR in any of their future entries. Which makes me think this about Lazenby's brief 1 picture tenure in the role. He only made one Bond film but at least it turned out over time to be one of the more beloved films. And he made no disappointing sequels, either.

[Double-O-Nine]

Yes, It was fresh start that the saga needed.

[jaguar007]

Well CR did what I thought for years would be the impossible, make a Bond movie that would rival or even top the best Bond films of the 60s. While I felt QoS was a letdown (middle of the Bond road) I have faith in the next Bond adventure.

[Satorious]

Happy with CR. Not so happy with QOS - so EON need to up their game significantly with Bond 23. I suggest starting with a good story with great characters - the very things which made CR work.

[Jose]

I'm very happy with Craig's era and I hope he continues to stay on-board for a while- preferably until Bond 25, maybe Bond 26. This probably explains why "X to be the next bond!" threads (at this point) irk me; it's still way too early to be talking about a replacement, imo.

[The Richmond Spy]

I have to think back to the Brosnan era to realize just how good we have it now. It could be a LOT worse. That said, I'm fairly concerned about the direction the films are taking because of what I saw in QoS. CR built my expectations so high that I was fairly disappointed with the sequel. I envisioned much greater things from the opening scene with Mr. White...among other things. I imagined what that very scene would be like for two years and unfortunately it did not impress. That's not necessarily QoS's fault, but CR built my expectations to the extent where I had never looked more forward to any other film.

I'm glad Bond has removed Vesper from his mind (somewhat) and can now move on to something else in 2011. It will have been roughly five years since CR and I'm glad I won't see The Bond Ultimatum with the same storyline/arc that I first started becoming familiar with many years before.

Bottom line: I have faith that I will see a quality Bond that meets my expectations and lets me walk out of the theater with a smile on my face and legitimate excitement. Problem is, I thought the same thing back in 2008.

[JimmyBond]

I think Craig's next film should be more laid back than QOS but I certainly don't want Craig's GF, it amazes me and I'm not on my own the praise that film receives.

I'm not the biggest fan of Goldfinger either, but when I suggested his third film be along the lines of Goldfinger I just meant a good all around film giving us Bond what he does best. Of course in my line of thinking I could have just as easily said I hope his third film would be his Thunderball...a film that I love far more than GF.

I have to think back to the Brosnan era to realize just how good we have it now. It could be a LOT worse.

I've always been a defender of the Brosnan films, but it's been nearly ten years since his last film, so it's easy to look back fondly. But to think back to right after TND had come out I was a bit worried about the direction the series was taking, (at the time) I really didnt like TND that much and didnt think Goldeneye was much better, I really didnt like the shift to the "run and gun" style of action that is present in all of Brosnan's Bonds. But that's neither here nor there, save that for another thread.

[Safari Suit]

I'm one of the very few nutjobs who prefers QOS to CR (and indeed the Brosnan films) so I guess I'm happier than most.

[DamnCoffee]

Following up Casino Royale was always going to be a tough ask. Anything they offered was going to look like a comedown. To tell you the truth, I cannot see any future Craig film reaching the high standard set by Casino Royale.

I don’t think Quantum of Solace is in the vicinity of Casino Royale, but I still view it as a good Bond film. I'm not sure if it's a good sequel, though.

I do think it's a better quality than most; just that it’s not great. I feel it could have been better. I know it could have been better. Hopefully Bond 23 can remedy that.

In any case, I am satisfied with Craig's era so far.

Pretty much agree with all of that. Couldn't have put it better myself, actually.

[CJB]

I liked CR (flawed though it may be) but thought QOS was absolute crap. The next film is make-or-break for me. Brosnan's hankering to climb up from dead last to #5 in my rankings.

[tdalton]

I think that Craig has already had the best tenure as Bond of any of the actors were he to leave the role right now. He's been phenomenal as Bond, and his two Bond films are amongst the absolute best in the series (if not THE best), right up there with Dalton's two films and From Russia With Love.