Hear the Quantum song that never was!
#1
Posted 10 November 2009 - 09:20 AM
On the fantastic new Dame Shirley Bassey album (also including a new song by John Barry and Don Black) produced by David Arnold is.....
Undeniably Arnold/Black's rejected song for Quantum. There is a five-note intro that appears prominently in the score, plus the word 'Solace' in the chorus and a general theme that ties in with Bond's state of mind.
It's not the best Bond song ever, but miles high above the trash that is Another Way to Die. If only we could get it replaced for the collector's edition dvd. I'm dreaming........
#2
Posted 10 November 2009 - 09:33 AM
#3
Posted 10 November 2009 - 10:27 AM
And it does certainly sound bondian.
#4
Posted 10 November 2009 - 11:46 AM
A classical bondian sound against a rock trash and ripetitive noises...
While going on others stage with the charachter and the way to film the franchise, could be the right way to go, this kind of music remains the typical brand of Bond recognization
#5
Posted 10 November 2009 - 05:00 PM
#6
Posted 10 November 2009 - 05:18 PM
#7
Posted 10 November 2009 - 05:41 PM
I love it!
#8
Posted 10 November 2009 - 05:44 PM
I'm surprised that Bassey's voice is still so powerful.
#9
Posted 10 November 2009 - 05:48 PM
#10
Posted 10 November 2009 - 05:51 PM
EoN and company need to realise that the audience does have some class and not stoop to marketing pressures.
The "hip" Keys/White choice was diabolical and for me, hearing Bassey's song would have made QoS bearable.
#11
Posted 10 November 2009 - 06:13 PM
As for AWTD, I quite enjoy it myself, and definitely feel it fits the slam-bam nature of the film that follows it. Not it's not a classic, but IMHO, it's better than this. I know that the reason that Crow's TND replaced Surrender was purely commercial. I have to say, the reason here is quality.
Now, please chastise me for being barking mad
#12
Posted 10 November 2009 - 06:19 PM
#13
Posted 10 November 2009 - 06:43 PM
I completely agree. Very forgettable. But at least "No Good About Goodbye" isn't irritating or jarring, like "Another Way to Die" often happens to be.. . . other than the five-note melody there is nothing memorable about it (we note the melody because it was so prevalent in the film, rather than it standing out on it's own, which is true about the "hooks" of the most celebrated songs in the series). To be honest, if it weren't for Bassey's presence, I don't think there'd be anything to this at all.
#14
Posted 10 November 2009 - 07:16 PM
I really think that recreating the sound and style of the classic Bond songs is no way to go about it. Just think of Live And Let Die, Nobody Does It Better, A View To A Kill, You Know My Name ... all gave something 'new' to the series, while definitely giving the Bond vibe. White and Keys may have failed with their song, but at least it was its own man, as it were. It crackles and moves along nicely, and I'd take that over the Bassey song any day.
#15
Posted 10 November 2009 - 07:42 PM
I prefer it over AWTD (tough I've liked the latter one)
Lyrics, pls.
#16
Posted 10 November 2009 - 09:21 PM
#17
Posted 10 November 2009 - 09:21 PM
I don't see why the title tune to a Bondfilm has to "stand out on its own". It's not a marketing ploy. First and foremost, the theme song should complement and enhance the overall film and work with the rest of the score. It should be written and produced specifically for the film. If the single gets a good chart position, fine. If not, who cares? To me, "No Good About Goodbye" sounds like an honest attempt to create a theme tune to QOS. The song is enhanced by the film and vice versa.(...) rather than it standing out on it's own, which is true about the "hooks" of the most celebrated songs in the series).
#18
Posted 10 November 2009 - 09:26 PM
#19
Posted 10 November 2009 - 09:41 PM
Jack should have recorded it with The Raconteurs, Alicia Keyes was big mistake, I think AWTD could have been so much better but it's nowhere the song some have made it out to be.
We'll see how Bond 23's theme works won't we, it might be worse!
#20
Posted 10 November 2009 - 09:59 PM
It does echo 'surrender', but also reminds me a bit of 'windmills of your mind', from The Thomas Crown Affair.
#21
Posted 10 November 2009 - 10:04 PM
It's good I guess, but can't say I care for it that much. Forgettable, a bit dull, and honestly I'm not even 2 minutes in and it's beginning to annoy me a little bit. Another Way to Die wasn't by any means the best Bond theme, but it was certainly better than this. Now then, time to arm the blast shields...
You forget though, that to fit the typical length of the credits sequence, the song would only be 2-3 minutes, anyway, rather than the complete 4:23 length we have here. Bassey's vocals are much more powerful and iconic than Keys' or White's and that mysterious recurring string line (that everyone assumed was the Quantum motif) is very catchy.
This is not the best Bond theme, obviously, but within the context of Bassey's themes, it would probably be above "Moonraker" for me.
#22
Posted 10 November 2009 - 10:10 PM
#23
Posted 10 November 2009 - 10:13 PM
#24
Posted 10 November 2009 - 10:15 PM
#25
Posted 10 November 2009 - 10:57 PM
Presumably this song was recorded after the release of QUANTUM OF SOLACE, because otherwise it means that Eon turned down the return to the Bond series of Shirley Bassey (and Don Black).... which is just unthinkable. Even with a non-brilliant song, Dame Shirl's return would have resulted in incredible publicity and goodwill. Passing on it would be like having a John Barry score all done and dusted for GOLDENEYE but choosing to go with Eric Serra. Or, if it turned out that Ian Fleming had actually faked his death for some reason and were alive and well and living in Slough, not hiring him to pen the next Bond novel but opting for Sebastian Faulks instead. Un. Thinkable.
So don't tell me that they actually turned the Bassmeister down.... did they?
#26
Posted 10 November 2009 - 11:15 PM
#27
Posted 10 November 2009 - 11:35 PM
I don't see why the title tune to a Bondfilm has to "stand out on its own". It's not a marketing ploy. First and foremost, the theme song should complement and enhance the overall film and work with the rest of the score. It should be written and produced specifically for the film. If the single gets a good chart position, fine. If not, who cares? To me, "No Good About Goodbye" sounds like an honest attempt to create a theme tune to QOS. The song is enhanced by the film and vice versa.(...) rather than it standing out on it's own, which is true about the "hooks" of the most celebrated songs in the series).
Mr Wint my friend, I wasn't suggesting that the song has to "stand out on it's own" compared to the film. My point was that unlike, say Barry's DAF, there was nothing in the song itself that made it particularly memorable as a song. Unlike say GF with Bassey blasting away or TSWLM with its tinkled piano intro, or DAF with its big finish (a la GF...). Admittedly, if I listened to it ten times, I might find something about it that will make it stand out in the memory; but I just wasn't th convinced it was interesting enough to get me to listen to it ten times. It's a big like DAD in that - heard it once, now move on.
#28
Posted 10 November 2009 - 11:38 PM
#29
Posted 10 November 2009 - 11:43 PM
That's what I think, nothing in QoS that was, for want of a better expression, camp enough to take a song like this.gotta say I cant see anything special here. I believe that it does not fit with the overall tone of QoS at all. Still prefer AWTD
#30
Posted 11 November 2009 - 12:12 AM