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[tdalton]

The first film was a huge cult hit in the truest sense of the term (which is why the second one was made some ten years later). I suspect more people in the target audience for Saw would have seen the first film than would have seen an episode of Young Indie. I could be way off admittedly, I've no idea how well the YI Box sets sold for example.

I would agree that more people in the SAW target audience would have seen BOONDOCK SAINTS as opposed to YOUNG INDIANA JONES (I'd be one of them, actually). With that said, it doesn't really matter who or what they add to this franchise for this seventh film. This franchise is, to put it politely, at a creative dead-end. They realize that they can't beat PARANORMAL ACTIVITY at the box office, so they feel the need to add all of these gimmicky things like 3D and

Spoiler

Cary Elwes' Dr. Gordon

in order to get people into the seats. They're sacrificing whatever integrity the series may have had left (of course, there wasn't much of that to begin with) in order to stick it to Paramount and PARANORMAL ACTIVITY, which had the nerve to take the box-office throne away from Lionsgate, which was a position that it felt entitled to after five consecutive first place finishes.

[Mr. Blofeld]

They're sacrificing whatever integrity the series may have had left (of course, there wasn't much of that to begin with)

I thought you admired this series, tdalton? If not for its quick succession of films, then certainly for the depth of its backstory?

[tdalton]

They're sacrificing whatever integrity the series may have had left (of course, there wasn't much of that to begin with)

I thought you admired this series, tdalton? If not for its quick succession of films, then certainly for the depth of its backstory?

I did enjoy the series, but at this point I think it's time for them to just end it rather than parading out yet another lame sequel. This series features a rather unique distinction (at least to me) in that two of the six films are amongst the absolute worst films the horror genre has ever seen (SAW III & SAW VI), and really only two films that were of any kind of significance (the first 2). The series should have ended with the third film, as the only thing making the newer films even remotely watchable is the introduction of the Hoffman character. I loved what they tried to do with. SAW V, as the violence was cut down dramatically and there was a move back towards developing the characters a bit more, and had the series continued on in that style, Ik'd be much more inclined to continue going with it.

The series' biggest problem at this point is the Jigsaw character himself. He's been dead for coming up on 4 films now, but yet he's still the main character. They need to ditch the character and the flashbacks, as now they've started making up backstory that doesn't even need to be told in order to give Jigsaw screentime. Also, these films already look horrendously cheap, but with the addition of 3D, the seventh film will look even more so because more of the already miniscule budget will be directed towards "enhancing" the film's visuals.

[tdalton]

Just when it didn't appear as though the film formerly known as SAW VII could get any worse, they've decided to change the title of the film.

The new title is (no, I'm not kidding):

SAW 3D THE TRAPS COME ALIVE



Wow. That's just awful.

[Mr. Blofeld]

I thought it was a joke, at first...

[tdalton]

I thought it was a joke, at first...

That's what I thought at first as well. And then that turned to me hoping it was a joke. And then the sad realization that it wasn't set in, after which I was astounded that anyone could come up with such a terrible title.

[Safari Suit]

To be honest I'm surprised they had the guts to keep the numbering up through six in this day and age. Dropping a 7 isn't surprising, even the team behind the seventh Police Accademy movie believed including 7 in the title was undignified.

Given the huge drop off the last film met, presumably they want to reach out to an audience who don't actually know what number the series is up to.

[tdalton]

To be honest I'm surprised they had the guts to keep the numbering up through six in this day and age. Dropping a 7 isn't surprising, even the team behind the seventh Police Accademy movie believed including 7 in the title was undignified.

Given the huge drop off the last film met, presumably they want to reach out to an audience who don't actually know what number the series is up to.

I don't think the issue is that they dropped the "VII" from the title. I'm surprised that they didn't do it a lot sooner. I don't think that's the issue, though. The title they came up with, though (SAW 3D THE TRAPS COME ALIVE) is just embarrassing, even for a franchise that is looked down on as much as the Saw franchise.

[JimmyBond]

While I don't think it's the greatest title ever, it's certainly not as horrible as you make it out to be.

Regardless of the title, I think the plot summary sounds interesting. 3D or not I'll be on the look out for this one too.

[Goodnight]

Slightly off topic but has anyone been one 'SAW the ride' at Thorpe Park, I went on it yesterday.

We went as group of 4 there, while me and my friend Rachael went on the SAW roller-coaster, our other two friends went in the SAW live horror maze, I have seen bits of it on youtube, but I don't understand most of the homages as I've only seen the first two films, as I refuse to watch anymore of them :/

[tdalton]

While I don't think it's the greatest title ever, it's certainly not as horrible as you make it out to be.

Regardless of the title, I think the plot summary sounds interesting. 3D or not I'll be on the look out for this one too.

I think the problem with the title is that it reeks of selling out (for lack of a better word). It almost feels as though it's signaling that the story doesn't really matter anymore, and that the sole purpose of this film is going to be the traps coming at you in 3D. I think that the studio possibly thinks that the only reason people go to these films anymore is to see what new traps they come up with, and if that is the thinking, it's a mistake IMO. The only reason I would even consider checking out SAW 3D THE TRAPS COME ALIVE is to see how the story that has been told from the first film onward comes to a conclusion. I honestly couldn't care less about the traps, I just want to know how everything ends up, and I think that a lot of other fans of the franchise feel the same way. By titling it what they did, it's almost an admission that the traps are the sole purpose of this film and having them coming at you in 3D is the only reason this film was even greenlit. At least when they were just titling each film SAW [INSERT ROMAN NUMERAL HERE], it presents the idea that it's a continuation of a story. SAW 3D THE TRAPS COME ALIVE almost feels as though it should be a spinoff to the "proper" series. If they had to come up with a non-numerical title, how about working

Spoiler

Dr. Gordon into it somehow, since he's coming back this time and, although I put this in spoiler tags to be safe, everyone knows it because Cary Elwes is listed either first or second in the cast in every story I've read about the film thus far.

[Mr. Blofeld]

So...

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SAW: DR. GORDON COMES ALIVE?

[tdalton]

So...

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SAW: DR. GORDON COMES ALIVE?

Perhaps it wouldn't be the best idea out there to try something like that, but I think that it would be better than simply stating that the goal of the film is to have 3D traps, like the current title suggests.

[DamnCoffee]

After JAWS 3D: THE THIRD DIMENSION, you would've thought that people would stop using the words 3D in the title of a popular film series.

'The Traps Come Alive', sounds more like a tagline. It's an awful title.

[JimmyBond]

It almost feels as though it's signaling that the story doesn't really matter anymore, and that the sole purpose of this film is going to be the traps coming at you in 3D. I think that the studio possibly thinks that the only reason people go to these films anymore is to see what new traps they come up with,

But...that is why people go see the Saw films. It's certainly why I go see them. Granted it's not the only reason, but it is a big one. After all, why do you think the previews highlight the traps and not the story?

[tdalton]

It almost feels as though it's signaling that the story doesn't really matter anymore, and that the sole purpose of this film is going to be the traps coming at you in 3D. I think that the studio possibly thinks that the only reason people go to these films anymore is to see what new traps they come up with,

But...that is why people go see the Saw films. It's certainly why I go see them. Granted it's not the only reason, but it is a big one. After all, why do you think the previews highlight the traps and not the story?

Well, that may be. It's not why I used to go to the films, though. Now that they've apparently stopped even caring about the storyline, I feel like I can say that I'm more or less done with the franchise. I already had one foot out the door due to how awful SAW VI was and the fact that they were making the move to 3D, but the intent for the film that this title more or less carries with it has me pretty much fully through the door and in the process of closing it.

[tdalton]

UPDATE on the film's title. The film's title is now SAW 3D

Apparently, according to the article, there was confusion yesterday when they changed the title, and some outlets mistook "The Traps Come Alive" as part of the title, when it was actually the tagline.

Well, it's a much better title this way, but I'm curious as to when the confusion as to whether this is SAW VII or a 3D remake of SAW will begin.

[JimmyBond]

Well color me a tad disappointed. The supposed title certainly felt like a throwback to the subtitles of some of the 80s slasher films.

[Mr. Blofeld]

How about:

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[jwheels]

New trailer.

http://movies.ign.co.../1107728p1.html

It's also been confirmed that this is the last Saw movie.

[tdalton]

New trailer.

http://movies.ign.com/articles/110/1107728p1.html

It's also been confirmed that this is the last Saw movie.

As for this being the last film in the series, it's about time. Should have happened five films ago.

But, I'll believe that SAW 3D is the last film when SAW VIII (or SAW 3D-2) doesn't arrive in theaters Halloween weekend 2011.

As for the trailer, that couldn't have looked more uninspired if it tried.

[Mr. Blofeld]

You embedded that link incorrectly, jwheels; it should be like this: http://movies.ign.co.../1107728p1.html

[jwheels]

You embedded that link incorrectly, jwheels; it should be like this: http://movies.ign.co.../1107728p1.html

Okay, thanks! I couldn't remember how to do it properly.

[DamnCoffee]

Lionsgate hosted a special event tonight in San Diego, inviting press to take part in a Q and A with several of the key players of the Saw franchise. Jigsaw himself, Tobin Bell, joined producers Mark Burg and Oren Koules alongside director Kevin Greutert to recall the history of the film series and its effect on pop culture.

In celebration of Saw becoming the most financially successful horror franchise of all time, both Burg and Koules were presented with official plaques from Craig Glenday, the Editor in Chief of the Guinness Book of World Records.

Following a brief Q and Q, the first eight minutes of Saw 3D premiered to press and a select group of fans.

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Opening where the first Saw left off, we see Cary Elwes as Dr. Gordon dragging himself along the floor, his foot gone. He makes his way to a heating pipe and, mustering the courage, presses his amputated wound against the heat, cauterizing it. As he screams, we fade away.

We come back to an all-new trap, this time in broad daylight in a major city. Inside a glass box in a large public square are two men chained to a machine. They're just waking up as a crowd gathers around them, wondering what's going on. Each are chained to circular saws with another saw in the center. Above them, a door opens to reveal a woman, strapped horizontally above the saw. Jigsaw appears on his tricycle, speaking in Tobin Bell's voice. He explains that this woman has cheated on them and convinced each man to commit crimes for her. They must now choose where the interconnected saws go; they can push the saw from beneath her, but it will cause it to go into one of them.

Everyone screams and the crowd tries to break the glass to no avail. Each man tries to push the saws into the other and one of them gets cut across the chest. The woman suddenly swaps her affections when she realizes that one is losing and both men notice, deciding to let her die instead. The circular saw cuts right into her chest and we see intestines fall right out of the wound onto the bloody floor.

Everyone reiterated that this will be the very final film and will wrap up a story arc that Burg and Koules conceived midway through the series.

[Mr. Blofeld]

Yay!

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_dWpCy8rdc&fmt=18

[DamnCoffee]

For anyone who wants to see it, here's the ending.




I still haven't seen the movie yet, I think I'm going some time this week. I'm not impressed though. Some twist that was, we've known about it from the start. We all saw it coming. Mehh.