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[The Shark]

His look of frailty was more down the amount of weight he lost for the film.

He looked far less "frail" than Dalton or Brosnan did in any of their films ( and far more fit than Moore or Connery in his later films)

I never thoguht Dalton looked as thin as Craig in TLD, LTK. Certainly a lot more bulky and physically imposing. I'd say Brosnan from TWINE - DAD looked more hefty too.

You must give me the name of your oculist

While cut down a bit more from CR, Craig still had visible muscletone in QoS. Craig's shoulders, back and arms were much more defined and muscular than either Dalton or Brosnan ever were. I really like Dalton as Bond and unlike Brosnan, he at least has broad shoulders in a suit that make him look a bit bigger. However neither Brosnan or Dalton had any back or chest in a suit and that is something that always bothered me viewing them as "tough guys". As Bond, Brosnan seemed to be a bit more fit than Dalton. It is no wonder why TLD is the only film you don't see Bond with his shirt off. When LTK came out I can see why, Dalton looked almost embarassing without a shirt. Pretty slim with very little muscle tone.

It wasn't that Dalton didn't have sufficient muscle tone, but that he simply had too much body fat surrounding the muscle, in other words not toned. A lot like Sean Connery.

Here's a comparisson:

http://www.mi6.co.uk..._17_dalton2.jpg
http://screenmusings...es/QoS_1424.htm

[jaguar007]

The clothes look and fit far better on the shot of Craig than they do on Dalton.

Also Craig looked much bigger in size and buffer in his love scene with Gemma Arterton than Dalton did in his love scene with Talisa Soto.

[The Shark]

Got to disagree there. Craig look tiny, but with defined muscles. Rather like Bruce Lee.

[double o ego]

I just prefer the looser fitting suits that Connery wore, and no I don't think they're particular anachronistic. I just thought Craig looked more physically impressive and 'Bondian', in the Brioni suits he worse for Casino Royale.

His look of frailty was more down the amount of weight he lost for the film.

The looser fitting that Connery wore is indeed a classic look/style but not every one can pull it off not to mention the fabrics and cutting of the suit plays a focal part in how it looks on a person. I agree Craig looked fantastic in the suits he wore in CR, however, I wasn't too thrilled with the suits he wore on the train where he first meets Vesper and the suit he wore when he is first introduced to the DBS. The suits fo QoS however, mirrored that classic and timeless style but given Craig's physique and body definition, it was more practical for him to wear a fitted suit than loose-tailored suits, which in general has a higher probability of looking awful. Had the suits been small or tight, then Craig again would have looked ridiculous with his muscles bulging through the suit. In the end, the design as fitted pieces was the more better and aesthetic choice.

[The Shark]

I just prefer the looser fitting suits that Connery wore, and no I don't think they're particular anachronistic. I just thought Craig looked more physically impressive and 'Bondian', in the Brioni suits he worse for Casino Royale.

His look of frailty was more down the amount of weight he lost for the film.

The looser fitting that Connery wore is indeed a classic look/style but not every one can pull it off not to mention the fabrics and cutting of the suit plays a focal part in how it looks on a person. I agree Craig looked fantastic in the suits he wore in CR, however, I wasn't too thrilled with the suits he wore on the train where he first meets Vesper and the suit he wore when he is first introduced to the DBS. The suits fo QoS however, mirrored that classic and timeless style but given Craig's physique and body definition, it was more practical for him to wear a fitted suit than loose-tailored suits, which in general has a higher probability of looking awful. Had the suits been small or tight, then Craig again would have looked ridiculous with his muscles bulging through the suit. In the end, the design as fitted pieces was the more better and aesthetic choice.

I guess my point is that if Craig looked fantastic in the looser fitting suits he wore for CR, then 'why fix something that isn't broke?'

[Messervy]

I'd say Bond has to wear Dunhill.
It was envisaged at some point for QoS; too bad it didn't go on. Tom Ford was ok, but Dunhill definitely has that british touch to it and is way smoother.
Better luck next time (in 6 to 7 years!...).

[double o ego]

I just prefer the looser fitting suits that Connery wore, and no I don't think they're particular anachronistic. I just thought Craig looked more physically impressive and 'Bondian', in the Brioni suits he worse for Casino Royale.

His look of frailty was more down the amount of weight he lost for the film.

The looser fitting that Connery wore is indeed a classic look/style but not every one can pull it off not to mention the fabrics and cutting of the suit plays a focal part in how it looks on a person. I agree Craig looked fantastic in the suits he wore in CR, however, I wasn't too thrilled with the suits he wore on the train where he first meets Vesper and the suit he wore when he is first introduced to the DBS. The suits fo QoS however, mirrored that classic and timeless style but given Craig's physique and body definition, it was more practical for him to wear a fitted suit than loose-tailored suits, which in general has a higher probability of looking awful. Had the suits been small or tight, then Craig again would have looked ridiculous with his muscles bulging through the suit. In the end, the design as fitted pieces was the more better and aesthetic choice.

I guess my point is that if Craig looked fantastic in the looser fitting suits he wore for CR, then 'why fix something that isn't broke?'

Because as fantastic as Craig looked for the most part in CR, he could have looked better given that there were some instances he looked a little off but nothing too distracting. In QoS the suits he wore were perfect, when he wasn't roughed up or covered in sand and crap.

As for Dunhill, they make nice suits, very stylish and contemporary and I wouldn't mind that brand either. To be honest, I just want Bond wearing British tailoring. I want the air of slight snobbery mixed with class and sophistication but nothing too uptight.

[The Shark]

I just prefer the looser fitting suits that Connery wore, and no I don't think they're particular anachronistic. I just thought Craig looked more physically impressive and 'Bondian', in the Brioni suits he worse for Casino Royale.

His look of frailty was more down the amount of weight he lost for the film.

The looser fitting that Connery wore is indeed a classic look/style but not every one can pull it off not to mention the fabrics and cutting of the suit plays a focal part in how it looks on a person. I agree Craig looked fantastic in the suits he wore in CR, however, I wasn't too thrilled with the suits he wore on the train where he first meets Vesper and the suit he wore when he is first introduced to the DBS. The suits fo QoS however, mirrored that classic and timeless style but given Craig's physique and body definition, it was more practical for him to wear a fitted suit than loose-tailored suits, which in general has a higher probability of looking awful. Had the suits been small or tight, then Craig again would have looked ridiculous with his muscles bulging through the suit. In the end, the design as fitted pieces was the more better and aesthetic choice.

I guess my point is that if Craig looked fantastic in the looser fitting suits he wore for CR, then 'why fix something that isn't broke?'

Because as fantastic as Craig looked for the most part in CR, he could have looked better given that there were some instances he looked a little off but nothing too distracting. In QoS the suits he wore were perfect, when he wasn't roughed up or covered in sand and crap.

Oh well. That's where he disagree. I just think the QoS suits should be considerably looser, though I suppose Tom Ford wanted to leave his own mark.

[Messervy]

As for Dunhill, they make nice suits, very stylish and contemporary and I wouldn't mind that brand either. To be honest, I just want Bond wearing British tailoring. I want the air of slight snobbery mixed with class and sophistication but nothing too uptight.

My point exactly.
I think Dunhill has this balanced approach.
I could also go with Hackett, although they lack the suave atmosphere that Dunhill conveys.

[Sebastian Tombs]

Now I'm tempted to start a rumor that the next Bond film will be set entirely in a nudist resort...

[The Shark]

Now I'm tempted to start a rumor that the next Bond film will be set entirely in a nudist resort...

Shaven, not Furred.
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[Aris007]

Now I'm tempted to start a rumor that the next Bond film will be set entirely in a nudist resort...

Shaven, not Furred.
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Craig doesn't have to shave!

Anyway, as far as I'm concerned Bond needs to go back to Brioni. People there make the best suits, without a doubt! Take this for instance from CR. Look at the fabric, the line and how it looks on Craig. It's not tight, but yet he looks big and fit.

http://screenmusings...ges/CR_0653.jpg

And he should aavoid three-piece cause he's worked a lot on his abs and the vest won't look very good.

[Messervy]

Now I'm tempted to start a rumor that the next Bond film will be set entirely in a nudist resort...

Shaven, not Furred.
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Craig doesn't have to shave!

Anyway, as far as I'm concerned Bond needs to go back to Brioni. People there make the best suits, without a doubt! Take this for instance from CR. Look at the fabric, the line and how it looks on Craig. It's not tight, but yet he looks big and fit.

http://screenmusings...ges/CR_0653.jpg

And he should aavoid three-piece cause he's worked a lot on his abs and the vest won't look very good.

Brioni?!
It was a bad move then, it would be a bad move now. Did you actually visited a Brioni shop? Man, I almost got a heart attack! Terrible experience I wouldn't recommend. The suits are so outdated and ill cut. It's a mystery to me the brand still exists...

[Aris007]

Now I'm tempted to start a rumor that the next Bond film will be set entirely in a nudist resort...

Shaven, not Furred.
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Craig doesn't have to shave!

Anyway, as far as I'm concerned Bond needs to go back to Brioni. People there make the best suits, without a doubt! Take this for instance from CR. Look at the fabric, the line and how it looks on Craig. It's not tight, but yet he looks big and fit.

http://screenmusings...ges/CR_0653.jpg

And he should aavoid three-piece cause he's worked a lot on his abs and the vest won't look very good.

Brioni?!
It was a bad move then, it would be a bad move now. Did you actually visited a Brioni shop? Man, I almost got a heart attack! Terrible experience I wouldn't recommend. The suits are so outdated and ill cut. It's a mystery to me the brand still exists...

It's Bond, mate! He doesn't buy off the peg! He gets everything tailored! He asks the fabric, the line everything! So, in CR you didn't like them? In Brosnan's era the suits rocked and they're still up-to-date. I personally hate the Tom Ford ones. Two pockets on the side, very tight. Not for me.

[Messervy]

Now I'm tempted to start a rumor that the next Bond film will be set entirely in a nudist resort...

Shaven, not Furred.
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Craig doesn't have to shave!

Anyway, as far as I'm concerned Bond needs to go back to Brioni. People there make the best suits, without a doubt! Take this for instance from CR. Look at the fabric, the line and how it looks on Craig. It's not tight, but yet he looks big and fit.

http://screenmusings...ges/CR_0653.jpg

And he should aavoid three-piece cause he's worked a lot on his abs and the vest won't look very good.

Brioni?!
It was a bad move then, it would be a bad move now. Did you actually visited a Brioni shop? Man, I almost got a heart attack! Terrible experience I wouldn't recommend. The suits are so outdated and ill cut. It's a mystery to me the brand still exists...

It's Bond, mate! He doesn't buy off the peg! He gets everything tailored! He asks the fabric, the line everything! So, in CR you didn't like them? In Brosnan's era the suits rocked and they're still up-to-date. I personally hate the Tom Ford ones. Two pockets on the side, very tight. Not for me.

Of course it is, and it's precisely why he shouldn't wear this!
Those suits look like a salesman attire. I did find them awful on Brosnan. I'm no fan of Tom Ford's, but at least they look better.
As for the 2 pockets on one side, well, to each his own taste, of course, but it is tailoring tradition.

[The Shark]

Bond tailoring plummeted downhill ever since Lindy Hemming took over the reigns.

On Brosnan, he always looked like a Mediterranean metrosexual male gigolo, with the flashy attire of the wealthiest man in the room. Bond should blend into the crowd, not draw unnecessary attention to himself.

With Craig in CR, Brioni worked fine, and came up with some great suits. However with Tom Ford in QOS, the cloths were unnecessary tight and fitted, making Bond look physically unimposing and scraggly.

[David O'Brien II]

Bond tailoring plummeted downhill ever since Lindy Hemming took over the reigns.

On Brosnan, he always looked like a Mediterranean metrosexual male gigolo, with the flashy attire of the wealthiest man in the room. Bond should blend into the crowd, not draw unnecessary attention to himself.

With Craig in CR, Brioni worked fine, and came up with some great suits. However with Tom Ford in QOS, the cloths were unnecessary tight and fitted, making Bond look physically unimposing and scraggly.

I have to agree with you there. I liked the suits in CR. The suits in QoS... I personally did not care for the look of them, especially the one that he wears in his first scenes.

[CJB]

A grey, double-breasted Zegna suit. Parituclarly in a briefing with M, it'd look superbly classy.

[Messervy]

A grey, double-breasted Zegna suit. Parituclarly in a briefing with M, it'd look superbly classy.

Yes, it could work. The issue I have with Zegna is that their fabric is a bit too satiny. I find matt fabric more stylish and more suitable.

[Brent A. Snyder]

I do like the casual attire Craig was wearing in the QoS Haiti sequence - especially when he added the jacket. [Much better than the outfit in the CR Miami sequence]. And I love the tux he lifted from the dressing room in the QoS opera sequence.

[krypt]

I like the clothing in Q0S even more than what was seen in CR - will have to check and see what Tom Ford is doing these days.

[Quantumofsolace007]

agreed i hope tom ford is continued with bond 23.

[The Shark]

I hope for something completely different.

[Matt_13]

The Tom Ford suits fit him best, I believe even Dan said he liked the way the felt.

[The Shark]

No. The Tom Ford suites were far too tight.

Bond needs loose fitting suites, a la the days of Connery.

[krypt]

the suites didn't look too tight in QoS to me - Bond's Bolivian suite had rooms so massive he needed help finding the stationary.

the hotel rooms in Haiti and at Bolivian eco-hotel looked cramped but I'm not sure I would call either of them a proper suite.

[The Shark]

the suites didn't look too tight in QoS to me - Bond's Bolivian suite had rooms so massive he needed help finding the stationary.

the hotel rooms in Haiti and at Bolivian eco-hotel looked cramped but I'm not sure I would call either of them a proper suite.

No, I'm referring to what he wears in Siena, MI6 HQ and La Paz. Too tight around the waist, and loose around the shoulders. It just looks daft.

[jaguar007]

No, I'm referring to what he wears in Siena, MI6 HQ and La Paz. Too tight around the waist, and loose around the shoulders. It just looks daft.

I hate to be negative toward you Shark, but I don't really think you will be happy unless they remade Thunderball with the exact same score, wardrobe, action scenes etc. Even then you would find something to complain about. I agree that the 60's Bond movies are the best, but we are not in the 60s anymore.

[The Shark]

No, I'm referring to what he wears in Siena, MI6 HQ and La Paz. Too tight around the waist, and loose around the shoulders. It just looks daft.

I hate to be negative toward you Shark, but I don't really think you will be happy unless they remade Thunderball with the exact same score, wardrobe, action scenes etc. Even then you would find something to complain about. I agree that the 60's Bond movies are the best, but we are not in the 60s anymore.

That doesn't mean Bond should lower his standards to suit a modern audience.

Bond should be Bond, not capitulate to the often misguided fads of today.

[krypt]

I was only kidding about the suites.