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Can we have an american Location, Villian, or bond girl?


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#31 The Shark

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 06:49 PM

Which bit isn't anywhere near SoCal?
The LAX shots were Bond boards the helicopter?
The shots of downtown Los Angeles that they fly over?
The shots of Lockheed's facility in Palmdale, 50 miles north of LA?


From what I recall, the LAX shot was Second Unit. I don't think Roger Moore was even out there. But I was making a bigger point, anyway, which is that there's a difference between a film being set, or partially set, in an American location, and the actual EXTENSIVE use of an American location. "Falco's office" (I'm assuming it was Langley VA) is not an "American location". A U.S. rocket launch pad on a television monitor in Dr.No is not an American location. These don't qualify as "American locations".

Using that logic, the United States also figured into the pre-credits sequence of MOONRAKER, as it was in this country's airspace that Jake Lombard doubled Roger Moore for the parachute-less free fall scenes; by further extension, Florida figures into Moonraker because parts of the boat chase, the python sequence, and the space center scenes were all filmed in and around the central and coastal parts of the state

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I don't see why nearly all of your comments have to be so AGGRESSIVE, this isn't an argument about civil rights here pal, merely a discussion no American locations in Bond films.

There are several great American places used in the movies, so yes to Location, and yes to a Bond villian. I remember hearing Marc Forester talked about having the film villians as being more realistic. Not all Americans are good guys, and not all good guys are Americans. (That goes for the British.)


That's part of the problem. Choosing an American location these days, is usually the prerequisite for a gritty, "realistic" (in the broadest sense of the word), dull action sequence.
If America were to be used, it would have to be somewhere crucial to the plot, exotic, charming - somewhere you don't see too often on film.

Come to think about, I wouldn't mind Beam returning, and becoming a Quantum member (i.e. No. 7 in the old days of SPECTRE, perhaps one who's eventually thrown into a pool of Portuguese Man of War Jellyfish.

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 06:54 PM

I think part of the problem is when you say "America" for a location, people's minds automatically jump to New York, Los Angeles, etc. There are some potentially great locations in the more rural areas, and particularly down south and in the mid-west I could think of some places that might make interesting locations (granted one of them has been sort-of done).

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 07:56 PM

Which bit isn't anywhere near SoCal?
The LAX shots were Bond boards the helicopter?
The shots of downtown Los Angeles that they fly over?
The shots of Lockheed's facility in Palmdale, 50 miles north of LA?


From what I recall, the LAX shot was Second Unit. I don't think Roger Moore was even out there. But I was making a bigger point, anyway, which is that there's a difference between a film being set, or partially set, in an American location, and the actual EXTENSIVE use of an American location. "Falco's office" (I'm assuming it was Langley VA) is not an "American location". A U.S. rocket launch pad on a television monitor in Dr.No is not an American location. These don't qualify as "American locations".

Using that logic, the United States also figured into the pre-credits sequence of MOONRAKER, as it was in this country's airspace that Jake Lombard doubled Roger Moore for the parachute-less free fall scenes; by further extension, Florida figures into Moonraker because parts of the boat chase, the python sequence, and the space center scenes were all filmed in and around the central and coastal parts of the state

You've been SERVED!


Well done! You win... absolutely nothing.

#34 The Shark

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 08:26 PM

I think part of the problem is when you say "America" for a location, people's minds automatically jump to New York, Los Angeles, etc. There are some potentially great locations in the more rural areas, and particularly down south and in the mid-west I could think of some places that might make interesting locations (granted one of them has been sort-of done).


I think Yellowstone or Arizona springs could work - potentially as a rendezvous point.

#35 Quantumofsolace007

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 08:35 PM

Bond 23 in america would be cool.


it would honest.

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 08:56 PM

Well done! You win... absolutely nothing.


He started it first by NEXTing me. If he doesn't want to get SERVED, he shouldn't NEXT people. I will continue to act immature and childish until he starts treating me with respect B)


A stance that does you great credit.

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 10:38 PM

Well done! You win... absolutely nothing.


He started it first by NEXTing me. If he doesn't want to get SERVED, he shouldn't NEXT people. I will continue to act immature and childish until he starts treating me with respect B)


A stance that does you great credit.


If nothing else it provides the rest of us with amusement. Now then, what did I do with that lawn chair and cooler...

#38 Quantumofsolace007

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 11:28 PM

Well done! You win... absolutely nothing.


He started it first by NEXTing me. If he doesn't want to get SERVED, he shouldn't NEXT people. I will continue to act immature and childish until he starts treating me with respect B)


A stance that does you great credit.


If nothing else it provides the rest of us with amusement. Now then, what did I do with that lawn chair and cooler...


Part of the reason i created this thread was for entertainment purposes the other was just incase bond 23 is filmed anywhere in america we'll get 90% of tyhe complaining out of the way.

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Posted 05 August 2009 - 01:54 PM

Location, no. Villain, no. Bond Girl, no.

Bond doesn't need America to survive, and so there is no need to visit America or have American characters other than Felix Leiter simply for the sake of having American characters.

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Posted 05 August 2009 - 08:02 PM

Location, no. Villain, no. Bond Girl, no.

Bond doesn't need America to survive, and so there is no need to visit America or have American characters other than Felix Leiter simply for the sake of having American characters.

I never said it needed america to survive However I would love it if bond came to america.

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Posted 05 August 2009 - 08:33 PM

It would be nice to have Bond over in North Amercia in daylight, i.e. something more than what we got with Miami in Casino Royale.

There are plenty of talented American actors not of the Tabloid variety Eon could use.


Are you forgetting GF??

I actually love the miami scenes in GF. Combined with the music and happy go lucky sentiments of the 60s era. Anyway, there's nothing wrong with american actresses or actors, it's just that they're too......typical. American's aren't the only people in this world and if we can get major movies that take advantage of using characters and locations outside of America the better.

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Posted 05 August 2009 - 10:23 PM

Everything in America in GF was second unit and set pieces. Most of the stuff, particularly Connery, are composited. It might be used heavily, and it's used very very very well, but I dunno, it'd be nice to have them actually film here instead of composite over second unit video.

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 10:58 AM

I meant America in the context of the last time we got is.

As for America in GOLDFINGER, I'd rather forget it. The Miami sequences weren't bad, but once Bond arrived in Kentucky, everything sucked.

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 07:34 AM

We get american locations, villains and Bond girls in 99% of movies that get released, I'll never understand the people who want them in Bond. One of the biggest reasons I love Bond is because its so international and its the alternative from the american places and faces we see in just about every other movie and TV show.

And its not exactly as if america has been neglected, from memory hes been there in six of the movies making it one of the most popular Bond locations, and theres been plenty of american Bond girls (including three of the four Brosnan movies).

Why see what we can see in every other film and have seen a lot of already in Bond? No, keep Bond as american free as possible please.