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[Mr. Wint]

These new pictures taken from the inside and outside of the newly re-opened Statue of Liberty in New York offer a rare glipmse of the famous landmark from very interesting points of view. Not too many people around the world have a chance to see the inside of the statue....A PERFECT LOCATION for a Bond and villain / henchman confrontation:

http://news.national...ures/index.html

[Quantumofsolace007]

agree.


I've mad no secret I want an urban feel for bond 23 and i want bond to go to new york so i definitly agree.

[Bryce (003)]

I've never been fond of "007 in New York" as a title, but as a locale, I certainly dig it. I'd like to see Bond back in America for Bond 23.

My top choices:

New York

Dallas

Seattle

Just my two (or three) cents.

[DominicGreene]

YES! This is perfect hopefully it will be!

[RufusCobb]

If you read 'The Battle for Bond' (can't remember who wrote it at the moment,) there are pictures of of Sean Connery scouting locations at the Statue of Liberty, for the Kevin McClory version of Thunderball, which at the time was going to be called Warhead 2000 but eventually became Never Say Never Again.

As it was never actually filmed I suppose it's okay to use it as a location but ... 1) it smacks of copying Kevin McClory and 2) who knows what claims of plagiarism EON may leave themselves open to from Kevin McClory's estate?

Best stay away from it. Besides it's already been done in X-Men.

Edited by RufusCobb, 03 July 2009 - 09:58 PM.

[MicroGlobeOne]

Best stay away from it. Besides it's already been done in X-Men.

Agreed. After X-Men, I could do without seeing any future fights staged in the Statue of Liberty... especially as the action in that film was so mediocre!

[DamnCoffee]

1) it smacks of copying Kevin McClory

It's a huge landmark, it's bound to be used at somepoint, the fact that Kevin McClory considered it, but didn't use it is irrelevant.

[Tybre]

1) it smacks of copying Kevin McClory

It's a huge landmark, it's bound to be used at somepoint, the fact that Kevin McClory considered it, but didn't use it is irrelevant.

While I don't know much of his estate, McClory himself would probably piss and moan and pitch fits until hell froze over.

[Strangways]

Would probably be used more like the climax of Alfred Hitchcock's "Saboteur", but it wouldn't be the first time they've copied a Hitchcock sequence (FRWL helicopter sequence derived from "North by Northwest" crop duster sequence comes to mind).

[Captain Tightpants]

Why does Bond have to visit landmarks at all? The film should be a story, not a travelogue with characters designed to justify going on a tour of famous landmarks.

[double o ego]

I agree with Tightpants. Also, should Bond go to the US, I don't want him there for too long. There's a reason why the Bond movies are a "different" type of action movie.

[Stuart]

Saboteur, X Men Ghostbusters II and, wait for it, Remo Williams have pretty much done the Statue of Liberty routine.

Any future Craig 'high work' set pieces would be in the shadow of the CR crane fight.

[PPK_19]

Nah, don't like the idea of Bond going to the the Statue of Liberty, or it even being used as a place for a fight sequence OR him going to NYC all together.
In addition, you just know critics/people are going to say Bond copied Bourne by going to New York (Ultimatum), as pathetic as it sounds. Despite the fact Roger Moore went there in LALD.

Edited by PPK_19, 04 July 2009 - 06:43 PM.

[Pushkin]

My first thought when I read this thread was not X Men but Remo Williams. I don't have any problem with Bond in New York and let the critics talk about Bourne all they want. For me, I just want a good story where the locations are picked to facilitate a story and not the other way around.

Cheers

[jamie00007]

Im generally against setting any Bond film in the US. Why see the same locations we can see in every other movie? I want something a bit different with Bond. NYC in particular is one of the most filmed cities in the world. And the idea of MI6 sending Bond on a mission in the US is a little silly.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Im generally against setting any Bond film in the US. Why see the same locations we can see in every other movie? I want something a bit different with Bond. NYC in particular is one of the most filmed cities in the world. And the idea of MI6 sending Bond on a mission in the US is a little silly.

Well Jamie i'm for it for 2 reasons 1 is selfish 1 is not


First the selfish reason I wanna see them film a bond film. You know it seems selfish but there is a gut who on these boards and was an extra in quantum of solace it must of been cool to say "wow Quantum was filmed in my backyard (figurativly) i'm gonna drive there and be apart of my fav franchise" NYC is about an hour away from me it would be nicwe to go and watch them film something. I mean with all the european and sout amaeircan and asian locations as of late I just think it would be cool to see them film to recognize landmarks like "Hey muuncle lives in that building" and yes that is selfish but it's how i feel.


Second the unselfish reason. Quantum is a huge multi natioonal orgnization the no doubt has deals going in every continent in the world has probably cells in most countries of the world. Your telling me I'm the only one who is a little curious as to what there american operations are like. I mean Quantum has to have either a cell or a few members or something in america and considering they are a msotly ecnomic power it would honestly make sense to have a cell near Wall street. Plus this would be a nice way to bring in Jack Spang and his brother Stefiano ( i can't think of an american actor the i feel would be good without going for either the obvious like Chrispen glover or the weird like johnny depp or William H Macy and i know posting this everyone is gonna scream NO DEPP IN BOND I agree right now i can't think of an american actor who screams bond villian.)


Now don't assume i want bond running around with a coke and hotdog and being the true american hero. That isn't what i'm saying at all In fact recently I was talking to a friend argueing for a british actor to be the next bond villian. Peter Wingfield who played Methos in highlander the series a great actor who would be cool to go again bond (oh and dirctor wise Watch Comes a horseman and revelation 6:8 and say Adrian Paul can't direct bond I dare you you combine those 2 episodes and it's a feature film that has the best of everything you would want in a bond film great story great drama great sex great viloence great friendship Ialso like french director Dennis Berry but again i've been watching Highlander the series again so that is why) I just think Quantum is multi national ecnomic terrorist group. Wouldn't they have at least a member if not a whole cell/operation working wall street it only makes sense.

[HellIsHere]

Last week I was in NYC and yes it's true, it's a perfect Bond location. The city has a feel, a vibe, something which is very modern, very glamorous, very Bondesque. They could use it as a location for the next James Bond, well, at least, one of the two locations, being the other location something less urban like the Seychelles or China or...

[Zorin Industries]

New York is heavily used in cinema for exactly the same reason a Bond should visit there again - i.e. it's the best city in the world, it represents one of the cultural hearts of the globe, it is a testament to the abilities and fortitude of mankind and its modernism would be a welcome antidote to the ornate European-ness of SOLACE and ROYALE.

It is not just about "Bond has been there before". He has but to no narrative extent. And New York is not just a location. It is a tone. It is a statement of intent. And the camera loves it.

[Loomis]

New York is heavily used in cinema for exactly the same reason a Bond should visit there again - i.e. it's the best city in the world

Ooh. Bold claim there, Zozmeister.

[007 Magazine]

If you read 'The Battle for Bond' (can't remember who wrote it at the moment,) there are pictures of of Sean Connery scouting locations at the Statue of Liberty, for the Kevin McClory version of Thunderball, which at the time was going to be called Warhead 2000 but eventually became Never Say Never Again.

As it was never actually filmed I suppose it's okay to use it as a location but ... 1) it smacks of copying Kevin McClory and 2) who knows what claims of plagiarism EON may leave themselves open to from Kevin McClory's estate?

Best stay away from it. Besides it's already been done in X-Men.

As 'Strangways' has already mentioned, Alfred Hitchock used the Statue of Liberty as a location first in 'Saboteur', and in the 80s Fred Ward's 'Remo' adventure also used the statue to entertaining effect in the highly underrated and VERY entertaining film directed by Guy Hamilton, in which Joel Grey steals every scene he's in.

There will be more never-before-seen production drawings from 'Warhead' utilising The Statue of Liberty featured in 007 MAGAZINE issue #51 publishing during August 2009.

Graham Rye
Editor & Publisher
007 MAGAZINE
www.007magazine.co.uk

[ACE]

Already used in a spy thriller directed by Guy Hamilton and written by Christopher Wood. The film was Remo: Unarmed and Dangerous - 1985 potential franchise starter starring Fred Ward as the latest Johnny-come-lately rival to Bond. It was a fun, train wreck of a movie co-opting too many different genres.

I think any new Bond film could do a lot worse than have a look at the excellent yet underrated thriller, The International, when it comes to locations and use of set pieces.

[Safari Suit]

Remo is a blast.

[Mister Asterix]

The Statue of Liberty belongs to Remo Williams.

Remo Williams side note: While I completely agree with Mr Rye that Joel Grey’s superb performance as Chiun steals the film, I actually liked Roddy McDowell’s Chiun better in the otherwise terrible ‘Remo Williams’ television pilot.

[Zorin Industries]

New York is heavily used in cinema for exactly the same reason a Bond should visit there again - i.e. it's the best city in the world

Ooh. Bold claim there, Zozmeister.

Of course. It's just my favourite for all sorts of reasons.

Though I don't think The Statue Of Liberty would ever feature in a Bond film (for now) anyway. Cinema did all it could at that particular location with Christopher Reeve and Pamela Stephenson. REMO SCHREMO!!!

[DLibrasnow]

Already used in a spy thriller directed by Guy Hamilton and written by Christopher Wood. The film was Remo: Unarmed and Dangerous - 1985 potential franchise starter starring Fred Ward as the latest Johnny-come-lately rival to Bond. It was a fun, train wreck of a movie co-opting too many different genres.

I think any new Bond film could do a lot worse than have a look at the excellent yet underrated thriller, The International, when it comes to locations and use of set pieces.

It actually had the alternate title "Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins" in some parts of the world but it really was a total train wreck of a movie. The fight atop the Statue of Liberty was probably one of the highlights of an otherwise rather flat spy thriller.

On the subject of 007, New York is so overused in movies that I really have no interest in seeing 007 return to the Big Apple.

[Safari Suit]

It was no train wreck, it was a fun film with rather quirky plotting and humour that probably wont be to everyone's taste, but definitely not a train wreck.

[jamie00007]

its modernism would be a welcome antidote to the ornate European-ness of SOLACE and ROYALE.

That ornate European-ness is exactly why I love CR and QoS and I was glad to see it returned to Bond movies. Its what seperates the (good) Bond films from every other action franchise.

NYC just seems so generic. Ive never been there but could name twenty streets because Im so familiar with the city from a hundred other movies. Its just not interesting or original enough to me to be a Bond location.

I have a problem with Bond carrying on missions in the US in general too, apart from the dull locations. Like, why is MI6 doing it and not the CIA or NSA? Wouldnt it be easier for MI6 just to hand it over than to cause an international incident and send a MI6 agent in? I dunno, the idea of Bond carrying out missions within a friendly country which also has the biggest spy agency on earth seems silly me.

But If we need to see Bond in one of the Wests great and overly filmed snd familiar cities it might as well just be London. Bond carrying out a mission in his own home town might be somewhat interesting.

[Zorin Industries]

its modernism would be a welcome antidote to the ornate European-ness of SOLACE and ROYALE.

That ornate European-ness is exactly why I love CR and QoS and I was glad to see it returned to Bond movies. Its what seperates the (good) Bond films from every other action franchise.

NYC just seems so generic. Ive never been there but could name twenty streets because Im so familiar with the city from a hundred other movies. Its just not interesting or original enough to me to be a Bond location.

You need to actually go there. There is more to New York than sidewalks and yellow cabs.

[Mister Asterix]

I think there are a few fresh things that Bond could do in New York that haven’t been done (or done to death). A sniper scene between skyscrapers, perhaps expanding on Fleming’s scene in Casino Royale, comes to mind.

It was no train wreck, it was a fun film with rather quirky plotting and humour that probably wont be to everyone's taste, but definitely not a train wreck.

It doesn’t stay on the rails, but it doesn’t wreck either. The henchman with the diamond tooth — and what Remo does with him — is but one of the things from the the film that I wish Bond had done. Kate Mulgrew was one of the many aspects I’m glad Bond didn’t do. I mean, who thinks Mrs Columbo is sexy?

[HellIsHere]

How dull can NYC be? NYC it's not dull! It's gorgeuous, glamorous and screams James Bond all over it I've been there last week (the weather was fabulous!) and i thought to myself that James Bond should have a great car sequence thru Manhattan (Park Avenue, Madison, 5th Avenue, Central Park).