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[Quantumofsolace007]

so i'm the only one who wants craig's bond in NYC and other american locals with and american bond girl really?

No you're not, Bond's playing field is international and not this Euro-only bullcrap mantra which should be consigned to the dustbin and therefore, an American girl is just as elegible to be cast. The US remains the biggest individual market and it is RIDICULOUS to continue to hold its talent in contempt for Bond films.

thank you because there are good american actors and actresses who would work well in 007 and should be in bond 23. as for locations New york, Alaska, Los Angles, Washington D.C. , Chicago, and New Orleans all would make interesting locations for 007 considering that either A bond hasn't been there or B the place has changed drasticall since the last time.

[Vanya86]

so i'm the only one who wants craig's bond in NYC and other american locals with and american bond girl really?

No you're not, Bond's playing field is international and not this Euro-only bullcrap mantra which should be consigned to the dustbin and therefore, an American girl is just as elegible to be cast. The US remains the biggest individual market and it is RIDICULOUS to continue to hold its talent in contempt for Bond films.

thank you because there are good american actors and actresses who would work well in 007 and should be in bond 23. as for locations New york, Alaska, Los Angles, Washington D.C. , Chicago, and New Orleans all would make interesting locations for 007 considering that either A bond hasn't been there or B the place has changed drasticall since the last time.

I think you need to look at this from the other side though. Take New York for example, as a location it's a little over exposed, I can't tell you the number of films and TV series that have been set there in recent years and the same can be said for a lot of American cities. I'd be more interested to see future Bond films explore some new territory. And don't forget that Bond did visit Miami fairly recently so it's no even as if it's a long time coming.

Actors are entirely separate issue, I have no problem with American actors in Bond films, in fact I hope to see more of Jeffrey Wright in the future. What I do have a problem with is high profile, 'Hollywood' actors like Angelina Jolie, people like that would be out of place in a Bond film. If the script calls for an American Bond girl then you're better off going with an up and comer rather than an established star.
I know there have been problems in the past, but if they can learn from their mistakes and avoid unconvincing nuclear scientists who look like supermodels and NSA agents who say “Yo mama' then we should be OK.

[Jace]

I heard an interesting interview with Ben Affleck on Fresh Air once where he describes the actor's journey from being hungry and working hard for more work- to getting more work- to then becoming saturated in the pop culture to the point where he can no longer inhabit a role without the audience breaking the fantasy by seeing The Star up on the screen instead of the character. I think Halle Barry suffered a similar fate as Jinx, and Angelina would surely fall into this category (not to downplay either of their skills or intentions as actors). I want to enter the world of 007 when I go to the movies. I don't want to see a gathering of celebs. And a reoccurring character doesn't often fit in Bond's universe. -Jason (SpyVibe)

[Pierce - Daniel]

Get Jolie in Bond 23, good bit og casting. Her and Craig would be dynamnite. She'd have to be the bad girl though wouldn't she?

[Pierce - Daniel]

Extra say the rumors are true:
http://extratv.warne...rl_angelina.php

[Quantumofsolace007]

Extra say the rumors are true:
http://extratv.warne...rl_angelina.php

wow when looking at related stories "satan buys snowblower"



I dunno Is this bond 23 news now or still tabloid trash?

[double o ego]

Why have american actresses? Notice how Bond films with American actresses usually suck or are heavily bashed moreso than the rest. DAF, AVTAK, LTK,TND,TWINE,DAD. I'm sorry but the less Americanisms we get in Bond films the better. Some of the best Bond films have nothing American in sight....FRWL for example. Lets stick to casting European, mediteranean and even some eastern chicks. America is too overplayed and meh.

Americans should boycott Bond if this sorry rationale was ever adopted. There goes the biggest individual chunk of the box-office pie, due to plain discrimination.

How is it discrimination? America's influence is everywhere. How many action movies need some American stamp of approval? It's absurd. You have your franchise action movies, hell even films like Taken and the horrible crank/Transporter movies are all Americnised. I'm sick of it and then hollywood has the cheek to ape and copy movies from the east and do a crappy job with it to boot. Sorry but if your that desperate enough to boycott a Bond film just because it lacks American actresses or American locations then it's your loss, stick to your Bourne movies or the many other countless movies that scream, "Hey world, we're America"..........Please. I've given evidence that at least advocates why I feel the way I do. America in movies, especially action movies is ridiculously too cliche and overplayed. There's a reason why Bond has been on the screen for nearly 50 years and it's because he hasn't spent most of his time galavanting around boring America.

[Vanya86]

Extra say the rumors are true:
http://extratv.warne...rl_angelina.php

wow when looking at related stories "satan buys snowblower"



I dunno Is this bond 23 news now or still tabloid trash?

Ha ha ha! Thank you, that made my day.

I still call BS on this one. Why do none of these people seem to realise that they're still too early in the production to start casting.
And another thing:

Angelina reportedly faces some tough competition for the role of James Bond's newest "It" girl -- from gorgeous newcomer Freida Pinto, who captivated audiences in "Slumdog Millionaire."

We're supposed to believe that Jolie and Pinto are up for the same role? Casting a Bond girl isn't that different to casting any other role, you come up with a character character and find the best person to play that character. I just can't see a 34 year old American and a 25 year old Indian being up for the same part.

[Quantumofsolace007]

a couple of points



1. to the anti american people on this board America has beautiful landscapes and would offer 007 nique challenges am i suggesting 007 in new york no but i am suggesting Bond in american settings. Why CAUSE AMERICA IS IN THE WORLD AND THEREFORTH SHOULD BE UTLIZED AT SOME POINT JUST LIKE ASIA EUROPE ETC!!!!!!!


2. Certain american actresses and actors would work well in 007 within the next 3-4 films even some of my out there choices would be good (bynes needs to shake up her film resume she has the look for a bond girl if she does a few independent films and a horror film then i can show you people what i see in her Duff watch war inc and then tell me my idea is stupid) I also think John Cussak Could work as villian out there yes but it would work at least in my imagination.


3. Jolie in bond i wanna talk about this rumour for a second lets assume (with a giant grain of salt) there is some truth to this not the jolie part but the idea of a woman returning for multiple films is it possible a higher up in Quantum is a woman? and if so does this mean The Property of a lady is gaurenteed for bond 23 or a future craig staring bond film? might a woman head quantum? I don't have the answers to these questions neither does anyone else on this board but it's possible someone somewhere got a hold of the idea of a woman heading quantum (from perhaps a bond 23 treatment) and ran with it hence the multi picture deal with jolie extra is "reporting" on rumours have to start somewhere.






so to some up

1. America locations = good and other locations = good

2. american actresses/actors = good

3. Quantum might be headed by a woman

[DamnCoffee]

You know, considering that this is tabloid BS. It is REALLY nice to see the rumours kick in again.

[HH007]

How is it discrimination? America's influence is everywhere. How many action movies need some American stamp of approval? It's absurd. You have your franchise action movies, hell even films like Taken and the horrible crank/Transporter movies are all Americnised. I'm sick of it and then hollywood has the cheek to ape and copy movies from the east and do a crappy job with it to boot. Sorry but if your that desperate enough to boycott a Bond film just because it lacks American actresses or American locations then it's your loss, stick to your Bourne movies or the many other countless movies that scream, "Hey world, we're America"..........Please. I've given evidence that at least advocates why I feel the way I do. America in movies, especially action movies is ridiculously too cliche and overplayed. There's a reason why Bond has been on the screen for nearly 50 years and it's because he hasn't spent most of his time galavanting around boring America.

Keep it up, your contempt for the USA is glaring. You've given no evidence, just your own bias and vitriol for 'boring' America.

You're also insulting every American on this board.

As a proud American, I say Angelina as a Bond girl= Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

[danslittlefinger]

I have to say that the US has some great places and NY would be the obvious place for the filming, great shots, maybe parkour up 42nd St?

As far as American actresses well I don't know as there are many other actresses from the rest of the world and it seems that Babs/MGW/Craig and whoever else is involved in hiring, prefers them.

Could go anyway I suppose.

What about Australia? Great locales there too begging to be filmed.

[dinovelvet]

Incidentally, my pick for a US actress would be Megan Fox, she'll be 25 in 2011.

Er... the lass makes Denise Richards look like Meryl Streep.

[double o ego]

How is it discrimination? America's influence is everywhere. How many action movies need some American stamp of approval? It's absurd. You have your franchise action movies, hell even films like Taken and the horrible crank/Transporter movies are all Americnised. I'm sick of it and then hollywood has the cheek to ape and copy movies from the east and do a crappy job with it to boot. Sorry but if your that desperate enough to boycott a Bond film just because it lacks American actresses or American locations then it's your loss, stick to your Bourne movies or the many other countless movies that scream, "Hey world, we're America"..........Please. I've given evidence that at least advocates why I feel the way I do. America in movies, especially action movies is ridiculously too cliche and overplayed. There's a reason why Bond has been on the screen for nearly 50 years and it's because he hasn't spent most of his time galavanting around boring America.

Keep it up, your contempt for the USA is glaring. You've given no evidence, just your own bias and vitriol for 'boring' America.

You're also insulting every American on this board.

Trust me, I don't hate America in fact I love the place but like I said, I don't need to see America in every bloody film I watch. Even now, in this thread all I'm seeing from posters is the number one cliche American location, New York. Come on people, at least try to be original and I know full well about 007 in NY but seriously, come on. It's too obvious, too boring and too overplayed. There are many beautiful cities and countries in the world that exist outside of America, contrary to what some Americans I've met may believe. Lets use them instead.
As for me, sharing my own bias and vitriol for 'boring' America as you put it, WRONG! If you open your eyes and bothered to read what I wrote, you'd see that I have provided evidence that represented a consensus in which the films that I listed that had blatant American involvement weren't well recieved or are highly disliked by the Bond fan community, regardless of my own personal feelings.

[quantumofsolace]

As for me, sharing my own bias and vitriol for 'boring' America as you put it, WRONG! If you open your eyes and bothered to read what I wrote [snip]

If you opened yours and understood your own posturing, you'd realise you have nothing but scorn for the USA and its talent where it relates to being used in a Bond movie. This isn't about whether or not you love the place for any other reason, it's about either its talent, or locations within the USA being used with 007 in mind, and it's here your tunnel-vision and bias is most obvious.

Apparently you just want to limit US involvement to Felix and the CIA with the latter being merely a satellite around Bond and receiving their come-uppance from M all the time.

It would be foolhardy to continue to only want non US villains... Mr. White, Greene, Gustav Graves, Renard, Elliot Carver, Alex, Sanchez, Max Zorin, Kamal...all the same denominator, none were American, is this realistic even in a fictional spy world?

Honestly, you'd think a vast criminal network like Quantum has a hands off policy where Uncle Sam is concerned? I seriously doubt it.

I think you are being very harsh on ego here. Bond is set in a very unrealistic spy world and , besides, Quantum and Uncle Sam were getting close in the last film. I think what ego is saying(I think) is that to go to US locations(especially the obvious ones such as NY or LA) is done so frequently in other action movies that there is no need for Bond to go there. I agree with this as the unusual locations he has adventures in is one of the things I like about the franchise. The occasional character from the US or quick trip there is fine(Miami in CR) but why spend any more time there when 99percent of enlish language action movies already do this?

[double o ego]

nsorry but the fact that you submitted the talentless megan fox whos appeal is limited to get teenage fanboys to check if they've got enough hairs on their sacks as, a potential bond girl destroys any credibility you may have had for this particular discussion. Contrary to your crazy notion that i hate the US, I do not. Having cliche US locations is tired and been done to death and so what if the US contribution is limited to felix and the CIA? This is about bond. I suggest you stick to bourne, 24 and your miami vices.

[Quantumofsolace007]

America is apart of the world and considering bond 23 may come out either the same year or very close to the tenth annversery of 9/11 it would make sense in my onpnion given the reality focus of the past 2 films to have at the very least an american setting.


Personnaly Asian locations were done to death during the brosnan era i'm quite happy Bond is moving about more (europe the caribean and florida all showcased in the past 2 films) I'd like to see more but that is just me. I'd love for bond to go where the producers feel is right. Personnaly i want a more urban feel for bond 23 including hopefully new york (so i can watch them film )

[chriso]

Angelina Jolie wouldn't be the best choice for a role as Bond girl. She could play a female villain or a henchwoman.

America as setting for Bond 23 --> YES
Jolie as Bond girl --> NO

[Vanya86]

6.
By my count that's how many Bond films have taken place in America, the most recent being the Miami sequence in Casino Royale (3rd time Bond's been to Florida trivia fans). So why do you feel there is such a desperate need for Bond to go there again so soon? Especially when you consider there is so much of the world that is untouched by Bond films.

[Greene217]

It really is ridiculous that people are claiming that actresses are being considered now. Its simply not true, the character comes before the actress and they havent even started working on the story yet.

That being said, Jolie would be a good villain, head of Quantum perhaps,

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of a Lady
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[Double-Oh-Zero]

As much as I am a fan of Miss Jolie, I'm a bigger fan of the notion that she shouldn't be allowed near a Bond film. I've said it the other 8 times it's come up as a rumour over the years: if she does a Bond film, the film will be known before and after it's release as "the Angelina Jolie Bond Film." The hard work and effort that the filmmakers have been putting into the Craig films will be ignored in favour of one of the most famous people on the planet making an appearance, even if it's only a fleeting one.

[double o ego]

nsorry but the fact that you submitted the talentless blah blah blah

yawn

The sad and ironic thing about your mental midgetry, you still want Bond to be succesful in the same country that produces Bourne, 24 Megan, and everything else you don't want in a Bond movie.

And for those of you who want to tear Megan Fox a new one, I'd really like to know how other actresses like Caterina Murino or Gemma Arterton excelled in their roles as Bond girls. Please tell me exactly where this great wealth of talent was needed to do the role...

So what if I want Bond to be successful in the US? Just because I don't want US locations or actresses in the movie, I should think otherwise, what kind of retarded logic is that? It's not even irony, it's wanton rationalization on your psrt. AS for Megan Fox, she's a horrible actress, why cast a horrible actress who can't act just because her only attribute is, she's a tattooed up orange-looking, penis-riser. You've said enough and your mentality for putting Fox forward just goes to show your typical, US-mediocre-minded, mental narrowness. Thanks for playing but wanting Paris-Hylton-esque acting quality is something the Bond movies don't need...and Caterina and Gemma Arterton are superior actresses to Fox, hell Arterton is a superior actress to most of her US peers in her generation. Get clued up or shut the hell up. It's that simple.

[Vauxhall]

This used to be such a nice place.

Anyway, Megan Fox is a favourite with Paddy Power for what exactly? I agree that she will be "in the spotlight" for the next few years, and this is exactly why she will not be on the producers' minds. Casting little-known lead actresses has proved successful twice in a row, so as the old saying goes, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

[Vauxhall]

She's a favourite with Paddy where potential American actresses are being wagered on if an American is chosen to be a Bond girl.

Really? Surprised they're taking bets for such things so early. Who else is in their top five favourites for an American Bond girl?

If your "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mantra was accurate, they wouldn't have replaced campy DAD, which was a box-office hit, with a Bond film like Casino Royale and someone like Craig - where anything could have happened, including the threat of failure.

A box-office hit maybe, but hardly a critical smash on the same level as CASINO ROYALE. They made the right choice given that it was clear Brosnan wasn't going to be around forever.

Besides, I heard Angelina was offered a part in Casino but her pregnancy got in the way.

Both Angelina Jolie and Charlize Theron were considered for CASINO ROYALE yes, but I don't think either were actually offered a role. Most likely, they decided to go in a different direction and go for the lesser known Eva Green.

[ForMathis]

I think Jolie is a good person

[double o ego]

generation. Get clued up or shut the hell up. It's that simple.

Why try to silence me just because your incessant cacophony of US-Bias is being dismissed for the nonsensical nattering that it is?

Resorting to being ignorant and nasty doesn't make that foolishness any more sensible...you're clearly regionally-bigoted to the point that you're an embarassment to anyone who's American on this board.

Gemma Arterton has what superior qualities? Her being British? Where was her excellent academy acting in QoS? Where was this even required? She has been hee-hawing like a about kissing Craig and made stupid remarks about his height during filming, (sounding like a retarded schoolgirl with the tact of a tree-stump)...and this to tremendous applause from the likes of you simply because she's British? Are you for real?

Megan Fox is a hot favourite with betting bookie Paddy Power. She's also very much in the spotlight over the next couple of years...something producers will be paying attention to if they go American. She'll be gracing EMPIRE's cover on May too...see, the rest of the celeb world doesn't suffer from your bigotry and blindness that Americans or America should be excluded. But these facts are lost on you. Americans spent 1/2 BILLION to see a welsh born Brit and an Aussie play two of the USA's most popular characters without any vitriol pouring out of their mouths the way its cascading out of yours. Maybe you should heed your own advice...silence really suits you.

Wow! You really are stupid. So, because someone is getting massive exposure, it makes them the perfect candidate to be in a Bond film? You clearly know nothing about Arterton. Of course she didn't showcase her acting chops to her full potential because one her screen time was limited and too her character was supposed to be a throwback of the innocent ditzes of the 60s. I've seen her in various drama series and she's a very talented actress. The same cannot be said for Megan oranged face fox. Tell me, what films has she done where she's made notable acting perfromances? NONE! Because the bitch can't act. So what if she's on the front cover of mags, all she has is sex appea and that's where her talent begins and ends. Like I said, get clued up or shut up.

[Germanlady]

Both Angelina Jolie and Charlize Theron were considered for CASINO ROYALE yes, but I don't think either were actually offered a role. Most likely, they decided to go in a different direction and go for the lesser known Eva Green.


They have been to Hollywood (quoting M. Campbell) and offered Vesper to several actresses, who TURNED it down. Probably none of the high class ladies wanted to be involved with a miscast Bond. Whern they found Eva, he said - if he had known her before, he wouldn´t have gone to Hollywood in the first place.

[danslittlefinger]

Whomever they choose, I hope she will have the same sex crackling interaction dynamic that Eva had with Craig.
Olga fell short, sorry to say.

[danslittlefinger]

Understand your point DogBond but regardless of her role, I think there should have been the sexual undercurrent somewhere. Even though she didn't sleep with Bond, it was lacking a certain "vibe".
But that's me.

To add my farthing's worth on Gemma, sorry that casting left me speechless and her actions regarding speaking of the film and her co stars, Craig in particular, was less than polished.
She's young and has a lot to learn about professional decorum and I don't give a toss where's she from.

[Mister Asterix]

Knock off the personal insults, people. Keep it civil.