
Does Anyone Really Like Madonna's "Die Another Day"?
#31
Posted 17 February 2009 - 01:26 PM
#32
Posted 17 February 2009 - 01:31 PM
I saw Madonna in concert in October last year and she even did a version of Die Another Day which included two prize fighters in a boxing ring on stage.
I also agree that Klienmann's Main Titles together with the song work reasonably well.
#33
Posted 17 February 2009 - 03:41 PM
#34
Posted 17 February 2009 - 03:41 PM

Oh if only she'd written DAD with Patrick Leonard rather than Mirwais Ahmadzai. What a painfully wasted opportunity that in no way represents the best Madonna could have given Bond.
I do like DAD's approach and I think Madonna had the right idea, which wasn't the out of touch pastiche of the other Brosnan songs, but Mirwais' dated for the time production and the cheap lyrics just make this another dreary addition to the appalling American Life album. Only Michel Colombier's great orchestral flourishes (which were added long after the song was recorded) manage to inject the "song" with anything remotely resembling melody. Let's be honest too; Colombier could have scored the whole movie.
I think if Madonna had gone for the same approach for DAD, but had written the song with Patrick Leonard instead of Mirwais, had Nellee Hooper, Leonard, William Orbit, Stuart Price or whoever produce it, we'd have something on par with Goldfinger. Honestly. Remember FROZEN?
Kleinman generally did well, except that his fugly RED FONT seems to have wandered off the set of NSNA, and I loathe whenever he does the "ego" directors credit (which doesn't have any place in a Bond film).
Edited by tim partridge, 17 February 2009 - 03:47 PM.
#35
Posted 17 February 2009 - 04:02 PM
Kleinman generally did well, except that his fugly RED FONT seems to have wandered off the set of NSNA, and I loathe whenever he does the "ego" directors credit (which doesn't have any place in a Bond film).
Agreed 100%!
#36
Posted 17 February 2009 - 04:05 PM
Then she had to spoil it all by releasing that annoying piece of tat Music, which was released when I was 13 and seemed to be on heavy rotation until I was about 16.
#37
Posted 17 February 2009 - 04:43 PM
#38
Posted 17 February 2009 - 05:11 PM
I don't love or hate the title song, "Die Another Day". It was okay. Nothing to get excited about. As for Madonna's appearance in the movie, I had no trouble with it either. It was simply a nice little cameo. I still don't understand the commotion by some fans over her appearance.
I don't have a personal problem with it, it's just that I'm not big on cameos for Bond movies. She did just fine in the part she had, I just didn't see it as necessary.
#39
Posted 17 February 2009 - 06:30 PM
I don't love or hate the title song, "Die Another Day". It was okay. Nothing to get excited about. As for Madonna's appearance in the movie, I had no trouble with it either. It was simply a nice little cameo. I still don't understand the commotion by some fans over her appearance.
I don't have a personal problem with it, it's just that I'm not big on cameos for Bond movies. She did just fine in the part she had, I just didn't see it as necessary.
People have been making cameos in Bond films since the 1960s. I believe that Ian Fleming made a cameo in "FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE". Michael Wilson does it all the time. Even Maud Adams made a cameo in "A VIEW TO A KILL".
#40
Posted 17 February 2009 - 06:45 PM
#41
Posted 17 February 2009 - 07:41 PM
#42
Posted 18 February 2009 - 02:41 AM
It's got 5 stars on my iTunes. The only other Bond songs to have 5 stars are "Nobody does it better", "The Living Daylights" and "You know my name".
#43
Posted 20 February 2009 - 10:59 AM
As a dance tune, it's a great track.
#44
Posted 20 February 2009 - 05:30 PM
But people are going to be more distracted by the appearance of someone who has pretty much been one of the most famous people on earth for two decades than they are by a brief appearance by an author many might be able to name but few could put a face to, and a producer that few outside of fairly knowledgable Bond fans could name. Madonna's role is more than a cameo really anyway. And she's a pretty terrible actress. She may have had a fairly compelling screen presence and an appealing bravdo when she made Desperately Seeking Susan all those years ago, but that had long faded by the time she appeared in DAD.
I understand if you were distracted by Madonna's appearance. But what makes you think that all Bond fans were? I certainly wasn't. I had no feeling about her cameo, one way or the other.
#45
Posted 20 February 2009 - 05:48 PM
#46
Posted 20 February 2009 - 06:12 PM
#47
Posted 21 February 2009 - 01:27 PM
#48
Posted 21 February 2009 - 01:38 PM
I understand if you were distracted by Madonna's appearance. But what makes you think that all Bond fans were? I certainly wasn't. I had no feeling about her cameo, one way or the other.
I don't think I implied, and certainly I didn't mean to imply, that all Bond fans were distracted by Madonna's cameo, in fact I don't think I even implied I was distracted by her, I was fairly indifferent to it too. I just hypothesised some of the reasons some viewers (not limited strictly to "Bond fans") have objected to her cameo.
#49
Posted 21 February 2009 - 03:47 PM
#50
Posted 21 February 2009 - 08:52 PM
The same feeling I have with "Another Way to die". Both "Die Another Day" and the latter are awful songs but they stick to my head all the time and I keep listening to them.
#51
Posted 22 February 2009 - 01:09 PM
Not surely my favourite, but I like it.
The same feeling I have with "Another Way to die". Both "Die Another Day" and the latter are awful songs but they stick to my head all the time and I keep listening to them.
I don't know if I feel the same thing about "Another Way To Die" too. I didn't like the song in the first place, but I can't say for sure that I'm not going to change my mind in the future! Both songs, though match with the titles just perfectly!
#52
Posted 01 April 2009 - 01:58 AM
#53
Posted 01 April 2009 - 02:47 AM
#54
Posted 01 April 2009 - 05:08 AM
For whatever it is worth, the song is traditional enough to sound like a Bond song. Not the atrocious piece of garbage that is Another Way to Die, which is absolutely dreadful.
As for Madonna's cameo, it was brief enough not to do any damage. For the record, I liked DAD. A lot. Probably my favorite Brosnan Bond film. Yes, the invisible car is a bit too much, and the CGI surfing looks a little fake, but the sheer exuberance for the 40th anniversary film more then makes up for it. Brosnan is the perfect Bond, Halle Berry is a real Bond girl for the 21st century and the whole film is a whole lot of fun.
Bill
#55
Posted 01 April 2009 - 07:32 AM
As for Madonna's cameo, what's the big deal? She may be a bonkers child-snatcher but, personally, I rather enjoyed her trotting out her Sapphic swordstress number. But then I've always felt that DAD had more positives than the naysayers on here would have one believe - and that they far outweighed the negatives. DAD did what it said on the tin, end of.
#56
Posted 01 April 2009 - 09:21 AM
#57
Posted 01 April 2009 - 11:43 AM
#58
Posted 01 April 2009 - 11:51 AM
#59
Posted 01 April 2009 - 06:32 PM
#60
Posted 01 April 2009 - 09:44 PM