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[Quantumofsolace007]

I've seen it tossed around on the boards a few time and I'm wondering Could Mr White have as strong a mystique as Greene and Le Chiffe to carry his own film as main villian? and what sort of plot would work with him as main villian?


of you think No are there any unused fleming names u'd like to see for bond 23's villian?

[BlackFire]

I do think Mr. White is Quantum's head, but since Craig said that Bond 23 won't be a sequel to Quantum of Solace I don't know what exactly is going to happen next.

Edited by BlackFire, 11 January 2009 - 04:38 AM.

[Vauxhall]

Jesper Christensen is a good enough actor to be the main villain, and I'd love to see it, but I think it would send out the wrong message. The tabloids would decide that this means the writers have run out of ideas and have to reuse villains or some bull like that. I'm more than happy with Mr White appearing every so often, and escaping Bond's clutches.

[Mr. Blofeld]

I'm smelling...

MIIIII-STER WHITE!!!

(BOM... BAH-DAH-BAH-DAH-BUM...)

HE'S THE MAN, THE MAN

WITH THE QUAAANTUM TOUCH...

(BOM... BAH-DAH-BAH-DAH-BUM...)

A SHWANTUM TOUCH!!!

[Joey Bond]

Such a Danish Fright!
Pretty girl, before of his knee of plight
He's MIIIISSTER WHITE!!!

[Dainshdude118]

TBH, I don't think he's the head of quantum cus Bond's allready shot and captured him once, in the process stripping the character of his enigma. I love his character tho' and defenately want to see him in another film.

Edited by Dainshdude118, 11 January 2009 - 09:00 AM.

[Aris007]

Of course he would play the main villain in Bond 23 providing that the next film will be Quantum related!

[Quantumofsolace007]

TBH, I don't think he's the head of quantum cus Bond's allready shot and captured him once, in the process stripping the character of his enigma. I love his character tho' and defenately want to see him in another film.

oh neither do i and i would be pissed if he was personaly i view Mr White as sort of Quantum's 007 he gets in takes care of the quantum member who might talk and get's out. In fact his mission in Casino Royale is similar to 007's (get the money at all costs.


as for plots i dunno.

[danielcraigisjamesbond007]

I do think that White could be the head of Quantum. He was certainly in on the plan to finance the terrorists in Casino Royale, and he was working behind the scenes (so to speak) by the killing of Le Chiffre and the operation in Venice.

As a side note, however, in QoS, White was at Tosca, listening in on the plan. That makes me think that he may not necessarily be the head of Quantum...

[Double-0-Seven]

I think Mr. White would work well as a villain. I'm not sure if I would have him as the head of Quantum, and I'm also not sure what the plot would be like, but it terms of acting I could see it. It would be interesting to see Bond finally terminate Mr. White after White surviving the previous two films.

[Vanya86]

I've always seen Mr White's role as a facilitator and a manipulator. If he were to take on the role of lead villain then I see the film (from his perspective) as:
Act 1: Scheming
Mr White and the other power players discuss the mission in hand.

Act 2: Recruiting
It could be interesting to see Mr White finding the businessmen, terrorists and mercenaries needed to complete the task. How much does he tell them, what does Quantum offer them? Is it just about the money or is there something more?

Act 3 Execution
With all the pawns in place whatever operation they have planned goes into effect.

Bond meanwhile is monitoring one of the pawns (or something) on what should have been a straight forward assignment, but things get more complicated with the arrival of Mr White.

Still no idea on what the actual scheme would be, but probably terrorism, revenge or extortion.

[Captain Tightpants]

I think White should remain as is: a high-level enforcer within the organisation sent by the actual Powers That Be to keep an eye on things and make sure Quantum's plans are carried out the way they should be, but cleaning up - like Le Chiffre and Dominic Greene - when things go sourly. In essence, he would be the right-hand man of Quantum's ultiamte leader, but a breakout character in his own right.

I just can't swallow the idea of him being the man behind it all. His behaviour and his lines indicate that he's answering to someone. For example, he knew of Bond's involvement with Le Chiffre, and yet he collected the money from the tournament in person. Why would he risk doing something like that if he wee at the head of the organisations? He already knows that Bond is a threat, and if he were the one in charge, he could simply have killed Bond in the boat, and forced Vesper to acquire the winnings another way.

Likewise at Tosca: he felt no need to make his presence known to the other members of Quantum. But by the he knew that Bond posed a danger to the organisation, and likely was aware of the absence of the man with the gift bag. It wouldn't be difficult to put two and two together and come up with the idea that Bond was in place. Why risk himself like that when he could just send a trusted lieutenant to the performance and report everything back to him?

White as a Big Bad wouldn't work as well as his current role does. That's not to say that it won't work full stop, but rather that he's better off as a high-level enforcer pulling the strings from the background than he is in the spotlight. And besides, the original ending to QUANTUM OF SOLACE - what is set to appear on DVD - has Bond confronting White for the final time because Bond supposedly kills him.

[007karl007]

I think it would be a great idea to bring mr.white back
he has great villian potential just not as a lead villian
if EON decide to continue bonds vengance quest against quantum they could use mr whites girlfreind from the opera as the lead bond girl(ive posted this on another thread..her name is elizabeth arcinega http://www.imdb.com/...06496/nm0033845 )
she could betray mr white and help bond persue the remaining quantum members.

[AgentBentley]

I'm certainly very much in favor of giving Mr White more to do. He played a key role in CR, was present at some key scenes in QoS, like Tosca, and I certainly hope he will be around for much more next time.
But like BlackFire says, Daniel said there is no trilogy on the cards - so I'm worried that could leave Mr White out of the equation for Bond 23.

[Mister Asterix]

I’d like to see White be (or become) a number two at Quantum. And I’d only give lip service to Quantum in [b23]. Make Bond 24 the Quantum finale. But whatever they want to do.

[Martini]

With White as the villain they could name the film "White Lies". ;)

Edited by Martini, 13 January 2009 - 11:21 AM.

[sharpshooter]

Even if he is indeed higher up in Quantum's hierarchy than first thought, I’d actually prefer White to remain in the shadows with short but sweet airtime.

[Martini]

Another idea: If Quantum really uses color names for thier members, than it would make sense because in the additive color system white contains all other colors, and among the three main colors is green.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I do not want Mr White to be the head of Quantum However I;'d like him to have more screen time in bond 23.

My idea is this in The property of a Lady (bond 23) Mr White acts like Le Chiffe or Dominic Greene as the overseer of a plan of his own design backed by Quantum. there would be a new villian in a glorified Henchman role (perhaps the characters name could be Ultric Von Hammerstien) Haines i see as an expendability either killed off or briefly mentioned that he died in prison under mysterious cirumstances. we learn that there is defintly a council above Mr white (though we learn none of there names) and that there may be a head of quantum (i can imagine a cool scene where someone would prefer death then utter his name like the begining of TWINE but actually cool and not cheesy)


I think it's the best of both worlds we get more of Mr White (who had some of the best lines in Casino and Quantum plus the news papers can't saay anything as they will assume mr glorfied henchmen is the real main villian of bond 23.

[DR76]

I do not want Mr White to be the head of Quantum However I;'d like him to have more screen time in bond 23.

My idea is this in The property of a Lady (bond 23) Mr White acts like Le Chiffe or Dominic Greene as the overseer of a plan of his own design backed by Quantum. there would be a new villian in a glorified Henchman role (perhaps the characters name could be Ultric Von Hammerstien) Haines i see as an expendability either killed off or briefly mentioned that he died in prison under mysterious cirumstances. we learn that there is defintly a council above Mr white (though we learn none of there names) and that there may be a head of quantum (i can imagine a cool scene where someone would prefer death then utter his name like the begining of TWINE but actually cool and not cheesy)


I think it's the best of both worlds we get more of Mr White (who had some of the best lines in Casino and Quantum plus the news papers can't saay anything as they will assume mr glorfied henchmen is the real main villian of bond 23.

I like your idea. I never could see Mr. White as head of Quantum, considering some of his actions in CASINO ROYALE - like killing Le Chiffre and his henchmen or appearing in Venice to collect the money from Vesper and Gettler. Those are not the actions of someone heading a criminal organization.

[Quantumofsolace007]

after viewing Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace back to back i'm convinced Mr white as the main bad guy in Bond 23 would be good

[Mr. Blofeld]

Either that, or kill him off in the PTS.

[I never miss]

Either that, or kill him off in the PTS.

Not sure about that - such an action would be rather a kick in the teeth for CR and QOS (reminds me of Hicks and Newt being killed off at the start of Alien 3).

Still, I guess Eon sort of killed off Blofeld in the pre-titles of FYEO, so anything's possible....

[Quantumofsolace007]

I just think Mr white Could make for a great villian in his own right he is dark and creepy and with him as the villian we'd learn a bit more about quantum but it would maintain it's mysterious element


I picture it this way it's the end of a bond film White's Dead and many assume the orgnization is done and bond get's a note "thanks for killing of our most troublesome ooperative sincerly Quantum"

How cool would that be

[00Twelve]

I'd like to see Bond 23 seem to have nothing to do qith Quantum, only to have the end reveal that Quantum is, in fact, involved or invested in whatever scheme is going down. Sort of how Goldfinger in the novel seems to be independent, only to turn out to be the treasurer for SMERSH.

Then, like Mr. *, I'd like to see the real finale play out in Bond 24. And maybe a post-Quantum Bond v. Ex-Quantum chief (if there is a chief) in 25, a la YOLT.

[tdalton]

I'd like to see Bond 23 seem to have nothing to do qith Quantum, only to have the end reveal that Quantum is, in fact, involved or invested in whatever scheme is going down. Sort of how Goldfinger in the novel seems to be independent, only to turn out to be the treasurer for SMERSH.

I like this idea.

Perhaps also leave the film thinking that Bond has completed his mission successfully, only for him to realize just moments before the credits role that he had been somehow tricked or used by QUANTUM to carry out their own scheme.

[00Twelve]

I'd like to see Bond 23 seem to have nothing to do qith Quantum, only to have the end reveal that Quantum is, in fact, involved or invested in whatever scheme is going down. Sort of how Goldfinger in the novel seems to be independent, only to turn out to be the treasurer for SMERSH.

I like this idea.

Perhaps also leave the film thinking that Bond has completed his mission successfully, only for him to realize just moments before the credits role that he had been somehow tricked or used by QUANTUM to carry out their own scheme.

As long as he isn't pitted against his own agency yet again, I'm down with an idea like that.

[tdalton]

I'd like to see Bond 23 seem to have nothing to do qith Quantum, only to have the end reveal that Quantum is, in fact, involved or invested in whatever scheme is going down. Sort of how Goldfinger in the novel seems to be independent, only to turn out to be the treasurer for SMERSH.

I like this idea.

Perhaps also leave the film thinking that Bond has completed his mission successfully, only for him to realize just moments before the credits role that he had been somehow tricked or used by QUANTUM to carry out their own scheme.

As long as he isn't pitted against his own agency yet again, I'm down with an idea like that.

No, definitely not against his own agency again. Like just about everyone else on these boards, I think that that storyline has run its course and shouldn't return to the franchise for at least another decade or two.

It could be done in one of those scenes (and this is an overly simplistic depiction of how it could potentially go) where M and Bond are talking at the end, and it's somehow revealed to them that they've been doing QUANTUM's bidding the entire time without ever actually knowing it.

[Conlazmoodalbrocra]

I'd welcome Mr White back with open arms in future Bond movies. I don't mind if Bond 23 goes in a different direction, as long as we see Quantum/Mr White again sometime in the near future. Perhaps Bond 23 could be the Goldfinger of the Craig films i.e. a one-film break from the Quantum stories, like Goldfinger was to Connery's SPECTRE films.

[Quantumofsolace007]

personally i like the idea of quantum's involvement in the main plot being just one of the shockers that would mkae fans go "NO WAY" i magine bond on a roof top spying on a meeting and in walks Mr. White could be a great moment.