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#31 Loomis

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 11:45 PM

I suspect he's been "doing" something else to get in this kind of shape. Know what I mean, eh? :(


Well, exactly. He's impressive, yes, but I'm told that human growth hormone, 'roids, plastic surgery, hair dye and so on can work wonders. Not that I'm suggesting Stallone has done anything involving any of those things, of course. But let's not forget that he's a multimillionaire Hollywood film star whose body is his livelihood (or at least a crucial part of his livelihood). He has access to the best dieticians, doctors, trainers and so forth that money can buy. Whether or not he uses any kind of dodgy, erm, "help", his physique would still be far beyond the wallet of any normal guy.

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 03:41 AM

Here's Stallone in shape for THE EXPENDABLES, which starts shooting next month:

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Impressive, no?


He looks better here (apart from the tats) than in Rocky Balboa, I don't just mean his physique, but also his face looks less fake and artificial.

Or maybe it's just the soft resolution of the mobile phone like image.

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 10:30 AM

When did he get tats done? And Why? Seems like an odd age to get them.

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 10:48 AM

Well, let's hear from the man himself:

http://www.dailymoti...s-aw_shortfilms

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 08:57 PM

Holy crap!! He looks amazing...now I really need to see Rambo V! :) :D

The tats are fake I assume. I don't really like them. He looks like he wants to be a 25 year old UFC fighter. But...the body is impressive. I need to get my butt in shape! :)

Rocky 7...bring it on! Mason Dixon is a :(! ;)

#36 Loomis

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 09:17 PM

Tarl, the tats are completely genuine.

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 03:35 AM

Ok, well I suppose that's cooler than harrison Ford's earing. :(

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 06:58 PM

I suspect he's been "doing" something else to get in this kind of shape. Know what I mean, eh? :(


Well, exactly. He's impressive, yes, but I'm told that human growth hormone, 'roids, plastic surgery, hair dye and so on can work wonders. Not that I'm suggesting Stallone has done anything involving any of those things, of course. But let's not forget that he's a multimillionaire Hollywood film star whose body is his livelihood (or at least a crucial part of his livelihood). He has access to the best dieticians, doctors, trainers and so forth that money can buy. Whether or not he uses any kind of dodgy, erm, "help", his physique would still be far beyond the wallet of any normal guy.


Loomis, I'm truly flattered that you think Sly would turn to me for help.:

Kidding aside, he really looks magnificent.

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 12:21 PM

Thought I'd take a mo' to share this quote:

"Not drooling yet? Ok, here's five more reasons why I'm counting down till The Expendables.

1. Stallone looks scary...in a good way. There are already pre-production photos of Sly floating around the Internet. And he looks totally yoked, covered in tattoos. Yes, the dude may be 62, but in these pics he looks like he could snap Rambo's neck like a dry twig.

2. Statham Unleashed. Has there been a better Cockney tough guy since the Get Carter-era Michael Caine? Granted, his Transporter movies are a little too PG-13 for my sweet tooth, but if you've seen Crank, Death Race, or Snatch, you know there's more mature-audience mayhem simmering inside of him just dying to get out. Hopefully, this is the venue for letting that particular genie out of the bottle.

3. Will Mickey Rourke's comeback continue? Who doesn't want to see what he does next? After destroying his career—and his once-handsome face— his resurrection in The Wrestler has made Rourke one of the most compelling figures in Hollywood. What will he do with his new-found capital? I, for one, think this kind of movie is exactly what he should be doing. I'd rather see him bust some skulls than make a movie with Kate Winslet or Dame Judi Dench.

4. The long-awaited Rocky IV rematch. Stallone and Dolph Lundgren together again! I've been waiting years to write that sentence. Say what you want about Lundgren's direct-to-DVD resume of late (I'm not ashamed to admit that I've kept up with these low-budget cheapies and some of them are surprisingly good), the one-time onscreen knuckle-bruiser and Italian Stallion foe, Ivan Drago, deserves to be the next Mickey Rourke-style reclamation project.

5. The return of the buddy action flick. As Quentin Tarantino cobbles together his intentionally misspelled WWII guys-on-a-mission homage-a-palooza, Inglourious Basterds, Stallone's entry has the benefit of being the stealthy bottom-half of a Dirty Dozen-style double feature. As much as I love watching Jason Bourne taking on the world single-handedly, there's nothing like watching a brawny band of brothers getting their hands covered in blood (think Schwarzenegger's Predator). The world is a dangerous place these days. Maybe, just maybe, it takes a ragtag village of expendable badasses to sort it out."

source: http://popwatch.ew.c...xpendables.html

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 09:53 PM

I suspect he's been "doing" something else to get in this kind of shape. Know what I mean, eh? :(


Well, exactly. He's impressive, yes, but I'm told that human growth hormone, 'roids, plastic surgery, hair dye and so on can work wonders. Not that I'm suggesting Stallone has done anything involving any of those things, of course. But let's not forget that he's a multimillionaire Hollywood film star whose body is his livelihood (or at least a crucial part of his livelihood). He has access to the best dieticians, doctors, trainers and so forth that money can buy. Whether or not he uses any kind of dodgy, erm, "help", his physique would still be far beyond the wallet of any normal guy.


Didn't he get busted in customs for carrying some sort of bodybuilding drug when he was doing the last Rambo? I think he freely admitted that it's almost impossible to get into the shape he was in for that at his age without them.
I'm still very much looking forward to this, I must say :)

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 10:31 PM

Yeah, he got busted Down Under. I think he copped a fine and that was about the size of his comeuppance.

http://www.cbsnews.c...in2803233.shtml

Strangely enough, I'm somewhat certain that all these bodybuilding drugs and steroids and what-have-you are perfectly legal in Britain, unlike in the States and elsewhere. I say "strangely enough" because of the general nanny-stateness that seems to prevail here.

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 11:38 PM

I suspect he's been "doing" something else to get in this kind of shape. Know what I mean, eh? :)


Well, exactly. He's impressive, yes, but I'm told that human growth hormone, 'roids, plastic surgery, hair dye and so on can work wonders. Not that I'm suggesting Stallone has done anything involving any of those things, of course. But let's not forget that he's a multimillionaire Hollywood film star whose body is his livelihood (or at least a crucial part of his livelihood). He has access to the best dieticians, doctors, trainers and so forth that money can buy. Whether or not he uses any kind of dodgy, erm, "help", his physique would still be far beyond the wallet of any normal guy.


At one point he was reportedly giving himself regular shots in the butt with monkey glands. :( I seem to remember a story in Charles Fleming’s ‘High Concept’ about Stallone backing out of Beverly Hills Cop because Don Simpson had got him into an exclusive Geneva clinic specializing in hormone injections. Punch-line is that there’s no clinic; Simpson just wants to be rid of Sly and his script rewrites so he can go with Eddie Murphy instead.

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Posted 31 January 2009 - 04:50 PM

I'm really lookin' foward to dis.
Ifitz half as good as John Rambo, then it's gonna kick butt big time.
What an AMAZIN' cast!

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Posted 31 January 2009 - 05:52 PM

Some dude on AICN reviews the script:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39600

Vern has read Stallone's THE EXPENDABLES!!!

Usually I don't write much about a movie before it's made, because I prefer movies that exist. Every once in a while somebody sends me a script like LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD or RAMBO, but I usually ignore them. I would rather watch the finished movie and not know what the original plan was. And to be honest I'm not sure how qualified I am to tell you about the meal based on the recipe. But THE EXPENDABLES - a Sylvester Stallone action ensemble picture where he will write, direct and then star alongside Jet Li, Jason Statham, Dolph Lundgren, Forest Whitaker and Randy Couture - is a big :(in deal among those of us who love the action cinema of the '80s and '90s. We can't help but dream about this one like nerds once dreamed of Star Wars prequels or new outfits for their limited edition Serenity dolls so they can act out what would've happened in the second season. So when Stallone's script fell into my lap this time I couldn't resist.

By the way I would like to take a moment to welcome A.B. King to the talkback. Welcome, A.B.

The ragtag team of the title are a group of elite mercenary badasses - at one point described as "totally prepared to die in a blaze of glory" - hired to take out a dictator in the South American country of Corza. I do not have an opinion on what's going on in Corza because I believe it is a fictional country, but if in fact they're real I'm against them. They got all kinds of human rights violations and :). No good.

Of course, the mission is not necessarily what it seems, there may or may not be some doublecrosses and deceits, etc.

The Expendables never come out and refer to themselves as The Expendables, but they do sport tattoos with an Expendables logo. Their lifestyle is rough but they have a dark sense of humor about it. The leader of the Expendables, Barney (played by Stallone I assume) has a good way of describing their purpose: "We remove those hard to get at stains." They try to do the right thing, but the movie itself seems sort of uncomfortable with the idea of soldiers of fortune and with puppet dictators and CIA tampering in other countries. It's a fun action movie but not some jingoistic imperialist deal like I think some people assume.

While I'm sure Stallone did some research about how these things work in the War On Terror era, happily this is not one of these Greengrassian modern action movies that tries to seem completely reality based. This is a movie where a team of 5 can take on an army of 100, where armed men still sometimes engage in martial arts and fisticuffs, where many, many things blow up, where occasionally a character might have something sarcastic to say during combat. In other words, a good old fashioned action movie. An endangered species.

Barney is a very different character from Rambo. For one thing, his name is Barney. For another he talks in more than one sentence sometimes. He's almost a father figure to the team and finds himself always listening to other people's problems and trying to be supportive. The other character who gets the most screen time is the lovelorn Lee Christmas. He's supposed to be American but calls a guy "mate" at one point, which means he's played by Jason Statham. There's also Kong Kao, who will be played by Jet Li. He does alot of kicking, but is much more of a supporting character than Li usually plays. I do think it's a pretty good character for Li, though, because he gets some funny lines. He's an unhappy smartass, not the usual Li type of character.

(Of course for all I know Stallone is playing the Chinese martial arts expert Kong Kao and Li is playing the weathered veteran mercenary Barney Ross. I don't want to make any assumptions here.)

Those are the marquee names, but the actor I was happiest to see cast was Dolph Lundgren. Obviously it's cool to see the Balboa/Drago rematch (or reteam), but I'm excited more because I think Lundgren deserves to be on the big screen again. The DTV pictures he's been directing and starring in are surprisingly watchable, and physically he's held up better than almost any of the '80s and '90s action stars. He still has a super hero physique with his towering height and square jaw, but looks more interesting with some wrinkles on his face.

Unfortunately, if Dolph is playing who I think he is then he's only in a couple scenes. It's a small but crucial role as an Expendable named Gunnar who comes into conflict with Kong. Harry has already reported that Lundgren will be fighting Li in the movie, so I will reveal that they get to fight twice. Let's be honest, Li has alot to prove after being defeated onscreen by god damn Brendan Fraser in THE MUMMY TOMB OF THE DRAGON EMPEROR A FILM BY ROB COHEN. I mean, how the :) does that work? That is unacceptable. So for him to face a guy who's actually a martial arts champion and nearly a foot taller than he is will be good for Li's rep. Also Dolph has a degree in chemical engineering, not sure if that is relevant.

We also know that Forest Ghost Dog Whitaker is in the movie. He plays Sands, a CIA agent tracking the Expendables. The Hollywood Reporter described the character as "devious" but in this draft at least he seems well-meaning. The same can't be said for the CIA character they're allegedly trying to get Sandra Bullock to play - she would be more like the bitch she plays at the beginning of CRASH and less like at the end when she's cured of racism because she fell down and broke her ;). Harry also reported that UFC fighter Randy Couture (seen in SCORPION KING 2 and more importantly REDBELT) would be in the movie - I'm guessing he's Paine, an American operative working for the dictator. If so it's a generic henchman role that will require little acting ability, but at least he'll get to fight Stallone.

There are also Expendables whose casting has not been revealed as far as I know. There's Richard, who is the gay Expendable. It's a plot point that he's gay, but they don't make any dumb jokes about it, he's just a member of the team. I'm proud of Stallone for that one. On the other hand, the black Expendable isn't much more than a benign Black Dude stereotype. He doesn't get enough characterization, but on the positive side he owns a restaurant, is zealous about tacos and has a name even more cartoonish than Lee Christmas: his name is Hale Caesar. I approve of that.

(Have you ever met anybody with the last names Christmas or Caesar? I don't think I have yet.)

The story is pretty standard, but if the movie works it will be partly because of the odd little touches here and there. I like that Barney is kind of a goofy old dude and doesn't try to be up to date at all. We're used to seeing Statham drive around in fancy brand new cars in his movies, in this one he'll be in the passenger seat of Barney's '56 Ford F-100 pickup truck. I don't think it specifies if the thing is restored or not, but I like to picture it as a real junker. You can't say Barney's poor though, because he owns a plane. When the guy hiring them asks if he has children Barney says, "I have a seaplane." He's pretty proud of that thing.

I have no idea if this is the final draft, but most of the characters are pretty lightly sketched. On the page I wouldn't say they seem like iconic action movie characters that we're all gonna remember, but hopefully the cast can bring something more to them. Like I said, it's a recipe. You'd hope Forest Whitaker could put a little spice on his role, for example.

Stallone does a good job of mixing up the location - they travel between the US, Mexico and Corza, which should keep it visually interesting. The action scenes, as written, are pretty good. There is variety, with action at sea, in a plane, in trucks, with guns, knives, feet, forearms, one-on-one and in a mob. My biggest hope for the movie is that the second Dolph vs. Jet fight will be much longer than what Stallone wrote down. As written it's way too brief. Please Stallone, don't skimp on that one. (Dolph gotta eat? I never did understand that "gotta eat" thing you guys like to write.)

Fortunately an action scene is often gonna be shot totally different than scripted. For the climactic "extraordinary battle scene" Stallone doesn't even bother to script it, he just writes:

"THE BATTLE IS ON!! WHAT ENSUES IS A REMARKABLY SAVAGE EBB AND FLOW BATTLE. TO DESCRIBE THE ACTION DESIGNED FOR THIS SCENE WOULD TAKE MANY PAGES, SO TRUST ME, IT'LL BE LIKE NOTHING SEEN BEFORE."

Maybe you can take Stallone at his word on that, or maybe he just wanted to figure it out later. In the screenplay Barney turns out to have a few tricks up his sleeve that I didn't expect, so maybe Stallone does too. We'll see.

I wouldn't say THE EXPENDABLES is a great script necessarily, but it definitely has potential. He's got a good backbone that now needs some charismatic performances and well-executed action sequences on top. We know it has a good cast and that the action in RAMBO was pretty good. So I think this has a good shot. I'm still excited.

In other words, "THE EXPENDABLES is a keeper!" --The Ain't It Cool News

thanks fellas,

Vern

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Posted 31 January 2009 - 06:14 PM

Man, this ROKZ!

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Posted 01 February 2009 - 06:50 PM

Further on's the Body Beatiful, with thanks to Loomis' post above:

We all know Stallone's in shape. He's been in the gym for years and can transform his physique from a slim boxer in Rocky III to a more bulked up shoulder wide hulk in Rambo.

But this is a new one, even for Sly. Who cares if he's juicing. Personally, I could care less if someone's on the juice. It's their body, not mine, and if it makes them look like a G.I. Joe action figure, then we should all be on it when we're over 60. I may go grab some :( from Mexico in a minute after seeing this pic.

I mean, I hit the gym regularly. I see guys this ripped but they're in no way close to Sly's age. With enough supplements (you know, the steroid kind) the right diet and hours upon hours at the gym, you can get ripped as well. Of course, he's a movie star and has the time, money and resources to get cut like this for being over 60. Or he's using that Chuck Norris workout machine. Chuck says it works wonders, and we all know Chuck Norris never lies. Speaking of Chuck, why isn't he in the Expendables?? Oh ya, because he would just do roundhouse kicks for ninety minutes.

When you see Sly's entire physique, you're gonna be impressed. The dude is going all out for his role in The Expendables and that's just gonna pay off for us action fans. I bet when Dolph and Mickey Rourke saw this picture they :) a brick. Even Statham, who is really cut as it is, probably just punched his
Navy Seal trainer.

Personally, I'm convinced that Sly's bod is all natural. The most he's ever taken has been perhaps a shot or two of juice from Mike Tyson's ear cartilage.

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Posted 01 February 2009 - 07:08 PM

Looking forward to this one, then: sounds good (in that I never expected to actually be good: just to be fun).

I hope Statham's not going to try an accent.

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Posted 07 February 2009 - 02:46 PM

Who's head is on the straihtest? This just in, shedding light on JCVD's shunning the...please, Lord...greatest action film of all:

'Jean Claude Van Damme must really be off his rockers, because he’s turned down a sure-fire box office hit because the character he would be playing wasn’t explained to him well enough. Well, actually, at all, as it turns out. But still, come on, at this point in his career, should the former high kicker really be this choosy with his movie roles? Steven Seagal or Wesley Snipes would snap the necks of 10 baby seals to land this gig! So why did Van Damme turn down Stallone’s offer to join him and the other muscleheads like Jason Statham, Jet Li, and Mickey Rourke in “The Expendables”?

Relates the Muscles from Brussels to TotalFilm:

“Stallone gave me a part in his next movie,” he told us. “But I ask him about the subject, about the story.”

“He said, ‘You’re gonna make lots of money.’ I don’t want to hear that, I want to hear what was my character. He was unable to tell what it’s going to be.”

“[Stallone said:] ‘You know, uh, well, the fighting will be good.’ [So I said:] ‘Sly, what is my character?’ So I didn’t do the movie.”'


sourcehttp://www.beyondhollywood.com/van-damme-turns-down-stallones-expendables/:

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Posted 07 February 2009 - 03:22 PM

Personally, I'm convinced that Sly's bod is all natural.


Erm, why? You do know he was caught trying to bring growth hormones into Australia?

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Posted 07 February 2009 - 03:48 PM

“[Stallone said:] ‘You know, uh, well, the fighting will be good.’ [So I said:] ‘Sly, what is my character?’ So I didn’t do the movie.”'



Seems fair enough, doesn't it? I love Stallone, bless him, but he's not exactly solid gold proof of there being a good role or film in there. And you don't want to be sat in a jungle with Dolph Lungren for nothing! :(
I saw the DVD cover for JCVD the other day- how bizarre: they're selling it as if it's a straightforward high-kicking Van Damme action flick.

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Posted 07 February 2009 - 04:07 PM

Well the thing is, at least the film will see the inside of theatres in the US, even if it is crap, which is more than any JCVD film has managed. Actually, this JCVD thing has been released in a whopping 28 theaters stateside, but the point still stands, I think.

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Posted 07 February 2009 - 07:34 PM

“[Stallone said:] ‘You know, uh, well, the fighting will be good.’ [So I said:] ‘Sly, what is my character?’ So I didn’t do the movie.”'

Seems fair enough, doesn't it? I love Stallone, bless him, but he's not exactly solid gold proof of there being a good role or film in there.

Quite right.

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Posted 07 February 2009 - 08:52 PM

“[Stallone said:] ‘You know, uh, well, the fighting will be good.’ [So I said:] ‘Sly, what is my character?’ So I didn’t do the movie.”'

Seems fair enough, doesn't it? I love Stallone, bless him, but he's not exactly solid gold proof of there being a good role or film in there.

Quite right.


You do understand this is Jean Claude Van Damme turning down a role we are talking about? I could happily pop my DVD of Universal Soldier in the player right now, but the point remains that the bar for "good films" or "good roles" isn't set too high here.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 06:30 PM

Personally, I'm convinced that Sly's bod is all natural.


Erm, why? You do know he was caught trying to bring growth hormones into Australia?


Yes, I'd read about that. But, don't you know, they weren't meant for himself--he was bringing them in for Tom Cruise. :(

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 07:46 PM

“[Stallone said:] ‘You know, uh, well, the fighting will be good.’ [So I said:] ‘Sly, what is my character?’ So I didn’t do the movie.”'

Seems fair enough, doesn't it? I love Stallone, bless him, but he's not exactly solid gold proof of there being a good role or film in there.

Quite right.


You do understand this is Jean Claude Van Damme turning down a role we are talking about? I could happily pop my DVD of Universal Soldier in the player right now, but the point remains that the bar for "good films" or "good roles" isn't set too high here.


He's been trying to turn that around recently though with 'JCVD' which is apparently pretty decent. Plus he's not as young as he was, so I can understand why he might be reticent about travelling to the South American jungle or wherever they're making this to jump and down and run for miles and generally get beaten up for what might be, from his point of view, just another bit of old tat.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 08:32 AM

JCVD is a real one off though; a parodic specifically for and about him. His next two films are both action pictures which will almost certainly go DTV; one of which is either (depending on how much of a purist you are) the third or fifth Universal Soldier film, which it one point was going to co-star a certain Dolph Lundgren. It's his desicion to turn down the role of course, but this is clearly because he doesn't want to share the screen with bigger stars, not because he is now too good to be in a Stallone picture.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 12:25 PM

JCVD is a real one off though; a parodic specifically for and about him. His next two films are both action pictures which will almost certainly go DTV; one of which is either (depending on how much of a purist you are) the third or fifth Universal Soldier film, which it one point was going to co-star a certain Dolph Lundgren. It's his desicion to turn down the role of course, but this is clearly because he doesn't want to share the screen with bigger stars, not because he is now too good to be in a Stallone picture.


Yeppers. One step forward, two steps back. One of the films he's working on, according to him, will have a spiritual message and feature a talking animal.

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 02:57 AM

ZOMG! Not one but TWO amazing Expendables tidbits, straight from Sly himself if you read between the lines.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/40151

1. Ben Kingsley is out...only to be replaced by Eric freakin' Roberts!!! Its a Pope of Greenwich Village reunion with Mickey Rourke (though leave the strange accent at home this time if you would, Eric)

2. Arnold Schwarzenegger is on board...PLAYING ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER. :) :( :) ;)

Is there anyone out there who still dares to defy the unstoppable force of nature that is THE EXPENDABLES? (Well, apart from Jean Claude van Damme).

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 10:05 AM

1. Ben Kingsley is out...only to be replaced by Eric freakin' Roberts!!! Its a Pope of Greenwich Village reunion with Mickey Rourke (though leave the strange accent at home this time if you would, Eric)


Don't forget that Roberts was also in THE SPEcıalısT with Stallone. THE EXPENDABLES really is turning into Stallone's Chance to Give Employment to People He Got on Well With on Previous Movies™!

2. Arnold Schwarzenegger is on board...PLAYING ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER. :) ;) :D :)


Dude, I think I've just died and gone to heaven.

Is there anyone out there who still dares to defy the unstoppable force of nature that is THE EXPENDABLES? (Well, apart from Jean Claude van Damme).


JCVD can go :( himself. THE EXPENDABLES is gonna kick such major :) it ain't even funny! That's what I'm talkin' 'bout! :) yeah!

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 10:16 AM

Eric Roberts is fantastic news: he's cheesetastic. Did anyone see him in Doctor Who? Marvellous 'evil' performance.

And Arnold bleedin' Schwartzenegger. 'Nuff said. I know he's playing himself and he probably won't get to leave California, but they've got to have him kill at least one bad guy, surely? Perhaps he should just fly a helicopter in at the end and blow the baddies up.

I love the way Empire are reporting it: this will be the biggest and best movie of 2010