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[Captain Tightpants]

But my biggest problem is how the hell they moved so quick to the new (and horrible) MI6 HQ.

It's in a different building. It stands to reason that an organisation like MI6 could - and would - inhabit several buildings.

[JakeGreen]

Personally I have no problems with continuation problems. It's just a movie use your imagination.

But the new MI6 HQ is too flashy for me

[Professor Pi]

I just saw QoS again last night, and what bothered me about the opening scene is this: Why are the bad guys shooting at Bond's Aston Martin? Don't they know Mr. White is in the trunk? Do they care? Is the car bullet proof? If so, why are there bullet holes in it?

I didn't pick this up the first time, but now that we know White is in the trunk...?

But the new suit and car aren't a problem.

[Major Tallon]

I just saw QoS again last night, and what bothered me about the opening scene is this: Why are the bad guys shooting at Bond's Aston Martin? Don't they know Mr. White is in the trunk? Do they care? Is the car bullet proof? If so, why are there bullet holes in it?

I didn't pick this up the first time, but now that we know White is in the trunk...?

But the new suit and car aren't a problem.

The car isn't bullet proof. Gunshot damage is visible in various parts of the bodywork, and the glass gets shattered during the shooting.

My guess is that Bond's pursuers would like to rescue Mr. White, but, failing that, want to kill him, to prevent him from talking under interrogation. We can wonder how, having hit Bond's car so many times, they avoided killing Mr. White. I think that has to be put down to dramatic license.

[jamie00007]

virtually the same car- make, model, colour and everything- was back here. I don't think Bond had made any contact with MI6 or Q branch. So where did the new Aston Martin come from?

It was a different car and was a different colour. And of course Bond had contact with MI6 before going after White, he was on a MI6 sanctioned mission when he captured White, which was why M was waiting in Siena for Bond to bring him to her.

[007karl007]

I know this is a silly thing to notice but if it takes place directly after CR why is his hair longer in QOS carchase than it is
when he shoots mr white at the end of CR
did anybody else notice this?

Edited by 007karl007, 01 January 2009 - 10:51 AM.

[HH007]

My response to this thread...

Ever notice how in BACK TO THE FUTURE 2, which takes place immediately after the first one, Michael J. Fox is obviously a good 20-25 pounds heavier than he was in Part 1, and how his girlfriend is suddenly being played by a different actress?

Point is, unfortunately there are going to be inconsistencies between the movies, especially when one is supposed to take place immediately after the other, yet they're actually shot a couple of years apart. The only way to avoid this would be to shoot all the movies at the same time, like LORD OF THE RINGS.

And to the person who said that 80% of the audience didn't notice that Craig was wearing a different suit, I'd say that number is probably closer to 99.7%.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

(I mean, would it have killed them to put in Vesper's death and the Bond/ Mr. White meeting?)

If someone was that clueless about it being a sequel, I doubt that would've helped.

The mysterious opening worked so much better than a summary of the end of CR.

[stamper]

The only thing that REALLY doesn't make sense with all this is how it's snowin in Kazan in August/September, which is in southern Russia. Unless one says it takes Bond three months to find Yusef. But then M says she wants Bond back, so it couldn't have taken more than a week.

I still think this scene would work better as the opening, and give the rest of the movie more weight.

[DamnCoffee]

Having the scene at the start will make no sense at all.

[stamper]

I don't mean the scene as is, complete with dubbed conversation playing over the face of Bond doing nothing but listening to a voice in the air referencing the vilain being found shot... Lines that are never, at any point, explicitly and clearly spoken on screen by M, I mean the general idea of what happens in this scene... the "I need you back... I never left" line makes as much sense past CR rather than post QOS, and it would give weight to the whole mood Bond is in in the actual movie.

[DamnCoffee]

the "I need you back... I never left" line makes as much sense past CR rather than post QOS,

Well, not really as Bond and M were on good terms at the end of Casino Royale.

[007karl007]

Having the scene at the start will make no sense at all.

i agree it would have been confuseing

Edited by 007karl007, 05 January 2009 - 03:30 PM.

[plankattack]

The suit at the end of CR is dark blue with a light blue pinstripe. Double vent, three piece, similar in cut to the grey suit worn in GF. In real life, tailored by Brioni.

The suit at the start of QoS is dark blue with a light blue pinstripe (covered in dirt due to the invisible door on the Aston). Double vent, ticket pocket, similar in cut and detail to the grey suit worn in GF. In real life, tailored by Tom Ford.

As for the waistcoat, well, he took it off because he was hot.......

In all seriousness, while we know that they are too different suits, they're clearly supposed to be the same suit.

As for everything else, I have no idea. I only look at the clothes.....

[marktmurphy]

The car isn't bullet proof. Gunshot damage is visible in various parts of the bodywork, and the glass gets shattered during the shooting.

Bulletproof glass does shatter, it just doesn't break- much like the rear window in QoS; so I think it could well be bulletproof. Also, just because the bullets make holes in the bodywork doesn't mean it isn't bulletproof; bullets don't just bounce off bulletproof things.

[DaveBond21]

I think it's important to note that we must ignore any references to dates in the Bond movies. I am pretty sure that when Bond talks to M at the start of QOS it is the first or 2nd time that he has spoken to her since the phone conversation in Venice in CR. Casino Royale does not take place in 2006, when you look at it from the point of view of QOS, so please don't assume the dates are correct or anything to do with the timeline.

[RedKelly]

Well I remember reading a review saying the beginning started out as a shot of White's estate for a few moments then White is pulled by Bond past the camera screaming and then the car chase begins. Possibly they got this goofed with the game. Although it might have helped I think if the first shot was White's estate followed by White screaming.

[JimmyBond]

Well I remember reading a review saying the beginning started out as a shot of White's estate for a few moments then White is pulled by Bond past the camera screaming and then the car chase begins. Possibly they got this goofed with the game. Although it might have helped I think if the first shot was White's estate followed by White screaming.

That would have ruined the surprise of White being in the trunk of the car.

[Tybre]

Well I remember reading a review saying the beginning started out as a shot of White's estate for a few moments then White is pulled by Bond past the camera screaming and then the car chase begins. Possibly they got this goofed with the game. Although it might have helped I think if the first shot was White's estate followed by White screaming.

That would have ruined the surprise of White being in the trunk of the car.

That was a surprise? Once I saw the AM from CR and realized we were in Italy (personally couldn't tell from the initial long shot along the water) I was like, "Yep, he just shot Mr White. Probably bound on the back seat or in the trunk". And lo and behold, no time at all later, Mr White in the trunk.

[JimmyBond]

Whether or not it surprised you is irrevalent. It was done the way it was because the scene (Bond getting White out of the trunk) was meant as a throway gag to ease the scene of the tension, just like most Bond films before had done.

The audience I was with (both times) laughed at the line, it worked just like it was supposed to.

[DaveBond21]

Whether or not it surprised you is irrevalent. It was done the way it was because the scene (Bond getting White out of the trunk) was meant as a throway gag to ease the scene of the tension, just like most Bond films before had done.

The audience I was with (both times) laughed at the line, it worked just like it was supposed to.

Agreed.

Also we should bear in mind that much of the audience had:-

1) not seen Casino Royale in a while and had forgotten all about Mr White

and

2) Hadn't seen Casino Royale ever and so laughed because some guy was in the trunk, which is amusing on its own.