Whats with people on here?
I just realized I forgot to proof read the thread title!
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Posted 13 December 2008 - 05:19 PM
Maybe your questions will be answered in this thread.Your right Bondian, its not aimed at anyone in paticular...mainly it gets irritating for me to be asked the same question again and again.
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Posted 13 December 2008 - 05:53 PM
you can't say
wow, this site blocks British and American slang
Posted 13 December 2008 - 06:04 PM
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Posted 13 December 2008 - 08:43 PM
License To Kill
Posted 13 December 2008 - 09:03 PM
Bottom line - we're overprotective because we are fanatical about it. And how many films in the series can really generate that much passion?
Posted 13 December 2008 - 09:37 PM
Ozz - let me try to answer your question.
I am a huge OHMSS fan. Anytime we're having an OHMSS debate or a Laz thread, I'll find a way there. Now, OHMSS suffers from underdog syndrome, and I think us OHMSS fans feel a slight chip on our shoulder - we'll defend the movie to the end because we feel that it's never got any respect. Not necessarily from Bond fans, but from the general public.
GF. "Everyone" loves GF. "Everyone" says it the perfect Bond film. All the "critics" cite it as the franchise's cornerstone. You can't criticize GF amongst non-Bond fans. OHMSS? "Everyone" makes jokes about Laz. "Everyone" calls it the one that didn't make any money. OHMSS and Laz end up being a punchline for the general public.
So we defend it with a passion, because the film simply doesn't deserve the reputation it's been saddled with. Whether one likes OHMSS or not, IMHO, there are some facts that are indisputable.
- It's Fleming's story on screen with a great script which some have said even improves on aspects of the source material (Benson?).
- It's the first film-Bond, and maybe the only Bond other than CR, to truly portray a human Bond (falling in love etc) than the more straigtforward, and at times less interesting, hero than he is in too many of the movies.
- It's wonderfully directed.
- Barry's score is terrifc.
- Rigg is, well, what I can say?
- It's plotting works and it has a strong villain and secondary characters. (Savalas is my own favourite Blofeld).
- It's an epic film with classical epic pacing.
- The ending. By sticking to the ending (and there had been a lot of talk of starting the next film with the book's ending) it was unashamedly refusing to stick to the conventions that the film series was rapidly conforming to.
Is it a perfect film? Of course not. But what it's not is the forgotten child that it was for so long (neglected by EON) and what it's not is deserving of being dismissed outright precisely because it's not like GF.
As a committed OHMSS fan, I have no problem with anyone not liking it - but that's different from it being a bad film, or a "mistake" as I've even seen it referred to in the press. OHMSS fans would love everyone to, not necessarily agree with them,but at least give the film a chance. Ozz, you gave it chance - but you'd be surprised how many won't.
Bottom line - we're overprotective because we are fanatical about it. And how many films in the series can really generate that much passion?
Posted 14 December 2008 - 05:06 AM
Posted 15 December 2008 - 04:28 PM
Among the general public, I'd swap out TWINE (and maybe even GE) for DAD and CR. Probably even throw in MR.Bottom line - we're overprotective because we are fanatical about it. And how many films in the series can really generate that much passion?
It seems that the list includes:
OHMSS
LTK
GE
TWINE
QOS
Am I missing one?
Posted 15 December 2008 - 06:09 PM
I've seen it at least 3 times, and have never enjoyed it...sure call me cynical but bad acting and a silly plot involving hypnosis makes it too much a spoof in my mind. The only thing I enjoyed was the idea of germ(bio-logical warfare) being slighty ahead of its time.
Posted 15 December 2008 - 06:30 PM
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Posted 15 December 2008 - 07:32 PM
It seems like everytime I show my disdain for OHMSS that someone has to ask me why!
Whats with people on here?
Posted 15 December 2008 - 08:03 PM
It was my favourite Bond movie, by a mile, for decades. CR and QoS have overtaken it now, but those three remain, for me, far superior to any other film in the series.
Posted 15 December 2008 - 08:08 PM
I thought it was just to be unique?You'll note by the gunbarrel the solidification of the idea that the lead did not curry favour with Eon. He resigned after shooting and in post production his silhouette is purposely "wiped out" when the blood pours down over the white iris of said gunbarrel. It was an "in joke" with Cubby, Harry and Maurice Binder...they wanted to symbolically "wash away" any "memory" of the Aussie.
Check the other 21 gunbarrels and you'll see that all of them, from Dr No to Quantum Of Solace, have the outline or silhouette of James Bond behind the blood.
Posted 15 December 2008 - 08:15 PM
I thought it was just to be unique?You'll note by the gunbarrel the solidification of the idea that the lead did not curry favour with Eon. He resigned after shooting and in post production his silhouette is purposely "wiped out" when the blood pours down over the white iris of said gunbarrel. It was an "in joke" with Cubby, Harry and Maurice Binder...they wanted to symbolically "wash away" any "memory" of the Aussie.
Check the other 21 gunbarrels and you'll see that all of them, from Dr No to Quantum Of Solace, have the outline or silhouette of James Bond behind the blood.
Posted 15 December 2008 - 08:31 PM
I know it may (in hindsight) symbolise this, but I've never heard that it was a conscious decision by the filmmakers. Do you have a source for this?You'll note by the gunbarrel the solidification of the idea that the lead did not curry favour with Eon. He resigned after shooting and in post production his silhouette is purposely "wiped out" when the blood pours down over the white iris of said gunbarrel. It was an "in joke" with Cubby, Harry and Maurice Binder...they wanted to symbolically "wash away" any "memory" of the Ausie.
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Posted 15 December 2008 - 10:16 PM
I didn't think so.He doesn't Matt,
Posted 16 December 2008 - 01:24 AM