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#1 Lazenby

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 11:27 PM

Campbell got it, Forster did not. Mediocre action+Weak villain+CGI= success in the first week. Lets pray that the US box office falls greatly in subsequent weeks so we can go back to the drawing board and look at what brings real fans back for the 2nd 3rd or even 4th time. Let Haggis write from beginning to end.

Directors:

Stuart Baird

David Fincher

Michael Mann

Martin Campbell

Matthew Vaughn

#2 Loomis

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 11:30 PM

Paul W.S. Anderson

Michael Apted

Michael Bay

Danny Cannon

Rob Cohen

Brett Ratner

Eli Roth

Roger Spottiswoode

Sylvester Stallone

Lee Tamahori

Simon West

John Woo

#3 Sir James Moloney

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 11:32 PM

Oh Come on! What do you want Lazenby? To stir things up?
A bit of attention defficit?
Many people loved Forster´s direction.

But hey, I´ll go along with the main point.

Alfonso Cuarón would be my choice

And Loomis... :(

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#4 Mister E

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 11:32 PM

We already have a director thread.

http://debrief.comma...showtopic=44978

#5 Harmsway

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 11:34 PM

BOND 23 directors, eh? I currently have two favorites, and both strike me as immensely likely suggestions:

Alfonso Cuaron
(Y TU MAMA TAMBIEN, CHILDREN OF MEN)

Joe Wright (PRIDE & PREJUDICE, ATONEMENT)

Let Haggis write from beginning to end.

Given his rather dodgy story concept for QUANTUM OF SOLACE, I hope they don't. He turns in good work, but he's not perfect.

Stuart Baird

The guy's a mediocre director, at best. Keep him in the editor's chair, please.

David Fincher

Michael Mann

Both are too big for Bond, I suspect.

Martin Campbell

Nah. He did CASINO ROYALE, but now it's time to see yet another creative vision for Bond. I want all of Craig's films to be attempted by different directors.

Matthew Vaughn

Now there's a choice I like, though I think he's said he's not overly interested (and that EON wasn't too keen on him, either). So I don't think he's too likely.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 11:36 PM

Campbell got it, Forster did not. Mediocre action+Weak villain+CGI= success in the first week. Lets pray that the US box office falls greatly in subsequent weeks so we can go back to the drawing board and look at what brings real fans back for the 2nd 3rd or even 4th time. Let Haggis write from beginning to end.

Directors:

Stuart Baird

David Fincher

Michael Mann

Martin Campbell

Matthew Vaughn



Micheal Mann ? He would make Bond film bleak, moody, depressing, and set in LA. Baird is just asking for John Glen's sixth film. Fincher would never helm a major movie franchise. I doubt Campbell is going to come back. Vaughn is the only choice on your list that seems reasonable.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 11:36 PM

Lazenby, I thought you said you were going to stick to the 2 threads for bashing QoS....I guess this is the third.

How many threads will Lazenby open bashing QoS? We get it. He hates it.


Just 2, thats it. I have high hopes for the series and will continue to see all of the movies, wishing for something on par with Casino Royal.



#8 Sir James Moloney

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 11:37 PM

Joe Wright? Now that´s a good one. Really, Wright or Cuarón would be wonderfull :(

#9 Loomis

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 11:37 PM

Harms, why are you so keen on Wright? I ask because I seem to recall that you weren't all that blown away by ATONEMENT. Heck, I liked ATONEMENT (rather more than you did, at least), but I don't particularly want Wright for Bond. There are plenty of people I'd choose over him.

Not that ATONEMENT is his only film, of course, but I'm curious as to why you're championing him.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 11:44 PM

Harms, why are you so keen on Wright? I ask because I seem to recall that you weren't all that blown away by ATONEMENT. Heck, I liked ATONEMENT (rather more than you did, at least), but I don't particularly want Wright for Bond. There are plenty of people I'd choose over him.

Not that ATONEMENT is his only film, of course, but I'm curious as to why you're championing him.

You're correct in saying that I didn't think too much of ATONEMENT, but I did think he showed great skill and promise as a director, especially from a technical perspective, and has a sensibility that I'd be interested in seeing him apply to the Bond franchise.

I also think he's immensely likely to be considered, which is why I name him... I'm only really mulling over likely directors, rather than producing a fanboy wish list, and on the list of likely suggestions, he's definitely near the top for me.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 11:45 PM

Harms, why are you so keen on Wright? I ask because I seem to recall that you weren't all that blown away by ATONEMENT. Heck, I liked ATONEMENT (rather more than you did, at least), but I don't particularly want Wright for Bond. There are plenty of people I'd choose over him.

Not that ATONEMENT is his only film, of course, but I'm curious as to why you're championing him.


Well, personally I like him because he was in Revolution (1985) with Al Pacino, as an uncredited gang member...just kidding, well...not really

Seriously, I enjoyed Atonement but I did not love it, and the trailer for his new one The Soloist seems nice. He seems like a good follow up to Marc Forster, same style of sensibility I guess. Atonement is somewhat a serious drama and yet it has its share of the surreal and uncommon.

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#12 Loomis

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 11:50 PM

Harms, why are you so keen on Wright? I ask because I seem to recall that you weren't all that blown away by ATONEMENT. Heck, I liked ATONEMENT (rather more than you did, at least), but I don't particularly want Wright for Bond. There are plenty of people I'd choose over him.

Not that ATONEMENT is his only film, of course, but I'm curious as to why you're championing him.

You're correct in saying that I didn't think too much of ATONEMENT, but I did think he showed great skill and promise as a director, especially from a technical perspective, and has a sensibility that I'd be interested in seeing him apply to the Bond franchise.

I also think he's immensely likely to be considered, which is why I name him... I'm only really mulling over likely directors, rather than producing a fanboy wish list, and on the list of likely suggestions, he's definitely near the top for me.


Yes, he's certainly a likely candidate (as opposed to the likes of Mann, Nolan and Spielberg - and I'm still rather stunned by the fact that some CBners seemed recently to be discussing Eastwood with a straight face).... but I personally don't see him as an exciting one, particularly. I think he'd be another Apted, only younger.

Just talking about young British directors, someone like Kevin Macdonald (THE LAST KING OF SCOTLAND) or Jonathan Glazer would, I think, bring more edginess and vision to the table than Wright, even though I hated Glazer's BIRTH and thought SEXY BEAST rather overrated. Both of those guys were apparently in discussions with Eon in the past.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 11:54 PM

and I'm still rather stunned by the fact that some CBners seemed recently to be discussing Eastwood with a straight face)


Hey that was my thread you big meanie. :(

#14 Sir James Moloney

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 11:54 PM

Kevin Macdonald would be interesting. He directed a film translated from french to english as My Enemy's Enemy in 2007 (aka Mon meilleur ennemi), a title curiously Fleming allegedly considered.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 11:56 PM

Yes, he's certainly a likely candidate (as opposed to the likes of Mann, Nolan and Spielberg - and I'm still rather stunned by the fact that some CBners seemed recently to be discussing Eastwood with a straight face).... but I personally don't see him as an exciting one, particularly. I think he'd be another Apted, only younger.

I think it's very, very unfair to Wright to lump him in with Apted. He's ten times the director Apted is (Apted's never demonstrated any real sense of artistry or technical flair, and both are present in Wright).

Just talking about young British directors, someone like Kevin Macdonald (THE LAST KING OF SCOTLAND) or Jonathan Glazer would, I think, bring more edginess and vision to the table than Wright, even though I hated Glazer's BIRTH and thought SEXY BEAST rather overrated. Both of those guys were apparently in discussions with Eon in the past.

Both are rather likely choices.

But just judging from THE LAST KING OF SCOTLAND, I really fail to see how Kevin Macdonald would be more exciting than Wright... he certainly doesn't have the visual flair of a Wright, whose two films have been rather sumptuous to watch, if nothing else.

Glazer, though, would make for an interesting choice. I don't feel as amiable towards his films as I do to Wright's, though, or even Glazer's. But if he were named, I'd certainly be excited.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 11:58 PM

Glazer and Cannon sound like good choices to me. :(

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 11:59 PM

and I'm still rather stunned by the fact that some CBners seemed recently to be discussing Eastwood with a straight face)


Hey that was my thread you big meanie. :)


Sorry, dude. But you may be able to dismiss my opinions if I tell you that my favourite Bond film is THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN and that I really love DIE ANOTHER DAY. :(

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 11:59 PM

What about Sam Mendes? He knows Craig from Road to Perdition.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 12:02 AM

Paul W.S. Anderson

Michael Apted

Michael Bay

Danny Cannon

Rob Cohen

Brett Ratner

Eli Roth

Roger Spottiswoode

Sylvester Stallone

Lee Tamahori

Simon West

John Woo


Loomy, are you joking about some of these choices ?


What about Sam Mendes? He knows Craig from Road to Perdition.


Yes I would love to him direct a Bond.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 12:03 AM

Yes, he's certainly a likely candidate (as opposed to the likes of Mann, Nolan and Spielberg - and I'm still rather stunned by the fact that some CBners seemed recently to be discussing Eastwood with a straight face).... but I personally don't see him as an exciting one, particularly. I think he'd be another Apted, only younger.

I think it's very, very unfair to Wright to lump him in with Apted. He's ten times the director Apted is (Apted's never demonstrated any real sense of artistry or technical flair, and both are present in Wright).


Well, I don't know. After all, Wright's only been around for five minutes, while Apted, like it or not, has a very extensive CV that does - I imagine - contain at least a handful of gems. Yes, I hate TWINE as much as you do, but going purely by CVs Apted's probably no worse a director than anyone else who's directed a Bond film, including Forster.

But just judging from THE LAST KING OF SCOTLAND, I really fail to see how Kevin Macdonald would be more exciting than Wright... he certainly doesn't have the visual flair of a Wright, whose two films have been rather sumptuous to watch, if nothing else.


Well, Macdonald's no slouch when it comes to visuals. I mean, I've only seen SCOTLAND, but I do think that film's fairly well-shot.

Glazer, though, would make for an interesting choice. I don't feel as amiable towards his films as I do to Wright's, though, or even Glazer's. But if he were named, I'd certainly be excited.


I'd only be excited if he brought UNKLE in to do the score.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 12:03 AM

Sam has a film in pre production for 2009, but nothing else I think.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 12:04 AM

Loomy, are you joking about some of these choices ?


I was joking about some of them, yes.

But not others.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 12:06 AM

and I'm still rather stunned by the fact that some CBners seemed recently to be discussing Eastwood with a straight face)


Hey that was my thread you big meanie. :)


Sorry, dude. But you may be able to dismiss my opinions if I tell you that my favourite Bond film is THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN and that I really love DIE ANOTHER DAY. :(


All is forgiven.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 12:06 AM

I was joking about some of them, yes.

But not others.


Tamahori right? :(

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 12:07 AM

I think it's very, very unfair to Wright to lump him in with Apted. He's ten times the director Apted is (Apted's never demonstrated any real sense of artistry or technical flair, and both are present in Wright).

Well, I don't know. After all, Wright's only been around for five minutes, while Apted, like it or not, has a very extensive CV that does - I imagine - contain at least a handful of gems. Yes, I hate TWINE as much as you do, but going purely by CVs Apted's probably no worse a director than anyone else who's directed a Bond film, including Forster.

Well, I've seen a lot of Apted's work, and regardless of how they look on paper, I'm going to say that on what Wright's done so far, he seems to be, by a fairly large margin, the superior director.

Well, Macdonald's no slouch when it comes to visuals. I mean, I've only seen SCOTLAND, but I do think that film's fairly well-shot.

Its visuals failed to impress me, honestly.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 12:10 AM

I was joking about some of them, yes.

But not others.


Tamahori right? :(


Yes, I'd welcome him back. Stallone, obviously (who could also play the head of Quantum, a chap by the name of RISICO). And I guess I could tolerate another Spottiswoode Bond flick. Eli Roth might be good, although I don't expect anyone to agree with me. And I did like MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE II (wow, I'm really showing myself up on this thread, huh?), so I suppose I'd put up with John Woo if he were hired.

All of those guys seem pretty stunningly unlikely, though.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 12:11 AM

Sam Mendes knows and has worked with Craig. He was also an executive producer on Kite Runner and is Forster´s friend. Coincidences? I think not :( It´s fate, Sam Mendes is the man for the job.

Or Wright, or Cuarón, or...

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 12:12 AM

Well, Macdonald's no slouch when it comes to visuals. I mean, I've only seen SCOTLAND, but I do think that film's fairly well-shot.

Its visuals failed to impress me, honestly.



I thought they weren't bad but I much rather see the writer, Peter Morgan, do Bond 23.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 12:15 AM

Yes, I'd welcome him back. Stallone, obviously (who could also play the head of Quantum, a chap by the name of RISICO). And I guess I could tolerate another Spottiswoode Bond flick. Eli Roth might be good, although I don't expect anyone to agree with me. And I did like MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE II (wow, I'm really showing myself up on this thread, huh?), so I suppose I'd put up with John Woo if he were hired.

All of those guys seem pretty stunningly unlikely, though.

And stunningly poor. :(

Sam Mendes knows and has worked with Craig. He was also an executive producer on Kite Runner and is Forster´s friend. Coincidences? I think not :) It´s fate, Sam Mendes is the man for the job.

Well, Mendes is also a very different director than Forster. He's a bit bigger, with a heftier reputation, and while Forster had a very mainstream streak, Mendes has done nothing but "serious," "worthy" material and has never at all indicated anything that leads me to believe he's the kind of director to just kick back and do something as flimsy as a Bond flick. Just sayin'.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 12:17 AM

I was joking about some of them, yes.

But not others.


Tamahori right? :(


Yes, I'd welcome him back. Stallone, obviously (who could also play the head of Quantum, a chap by the name of RISICO). And I guess I could tolerate another Spottiswoode Bond flick. Eli Roth might be good, although I don't expect anyone to agree with me. And I did like MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE II (wow, I'm really showing myself up on this thread, huh?), so I suppose I'd put up with John Woo if he were hired.

All of those guys seem pretty stunningly unlikely, though.


I´m a really big Stallone fan but...no way :) Woo can be quite unpredictable, I recently saw a short film about children poverty and parenting issues, directed by him and it was quite good. I also like MI2 for what it is...plain fun, nothing more. I really don´t want Tamahori near Bond again...ever! ;) But I know you like DAD Loomis :)

Edited by Sir James Moloney, 19 November 2008 - 12:17 AM.