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[Colonel Moon]

Michael G. Wilson make a correct move choising Madonna to perform a title song

[mrmoon]

Holy ****, I really like this tune, I mean 'really' like this tune, I hate praising Madonna but she's done a ****ing good job. It feels so very fresh, so very cool and Im very happy. As for it matching the titles, with due respect that's not Madonna's problem its Kleinmann's.

Hey Im getting all pro-madonna here better be careful:D.

Meesa love this theme song.

[mrmoon]

Damn I love this song, I do, I do, I do. God damn

[JimmyBond]

Well, it appears this will be one of those "love it, hate it" songs. Sure there are a few that are in the middle, but most of the posters here either love it or hate it.

Just to reiterate my earlier comments, I'm a "love it" kind of guy

[Tim007]

I'm a "hate it" kind of guy.

[Colonel Moon]

Tim you want keeping Bond still in 60's?

[Sir James]

At first I was skeptical of Madonna, but I dont have any complaints now! But IMO I still think GE has the best song.

[JimmyBond]

Theres a lot of bickering going on between the people who like the song and the people who dont (ok, not a lot, but some). I just dont think its warranted. The fact is, this *is* the song, nothing is going to change the fact that this will be the song that we here in the film. With that said, there is no reason you have to like it, I dont think people should get upset just because someone doesnt like what they like (I used to be like this, trust me, its more stressful than you think).

If you like it great, I love it too. If you dont like it, hey, thats your opinion and I respect it.

[007forever]

I love it too! I mean, i am no fan of Madonna, but this tune really rocks me! It's the type of song that once u listen, u r hooked!

BTW, for those found the link to the mp3 romoved, u can now find the download in KaZaA

[solitaire]

Another great piece of work from Madonna;)

[Blue Eyes]

Originally posted by JimmyBond
Theres a lot of bickering going on between the people who like the song and the people who dont (ok, not a lot, but some). I just dont think its warranted. The fact is, this *is* the song, nothing is going to change the fact that this will be the song that we here in the film.

I don't see any bickering going on. This is a place for the discussion of James Bond and if people don't like it they're more than allowed to say so, as long as they respect other peoples opinions and don't try and force their own down someone else throat.

A new day and I've listened to it again. What do I think? I still don't like it. It's too electronic for me. I don't mind electronic music, but for me the voice-edited electronics has just gone too far. I'd go as far as to say this is the sort of song I'd tune out of if it were on the radio (by that I mean I'd swap channel).

Roll on other mixes says me.

[JimmyBond]

I was referring, specifically, to the chap who said "Shut up you damn yankee" or something along those lines. My apologies if that point was misinterpreted.

[Joe Siegler]

Ewww...

As was stated above, this song is really NOT Bondish. I did not care for it at all. I never really liked the last two either, but they grew on me, after having a "It's not THAT bad" reaction to them. I know different people have different opinions, and that's cool - but I fail to understand how the people in this thread who have said they truly liked it can think that.

This one. Blech. Sounds like it was done during Madonna's Erotica period, which wasn't that good, either. I suspect this will grow to tolerable for me, but that's about it. I'm sure I'll force myself to listen to it several times between now and the movie coming out, but I except I will never like this one, it will go down as one of the bad ones. This is horrible compared to Madonna's other material. I consider myself a somewhat Madonna fan - I adore her Ray of Light album, some stuff from Music is good, but her early stuff (Borderline comes to mind) is stuff I consider bubble gum **** is better than this.

For me, it's been awhile since there's been a total DUD of a theme song. The last one I totally disliked was License To Kill. I wasn't a fan of the Cheryl Crow song (to this day I still think that K.D. Lang's Surrender would have been a far superior theme song), but it grew on me. It's not the greatest, but it's definitely listenable. Garbage's song same thing. I initially didn't like it, but it grew on me - I actually rather like that now. Granted, I've only listened to it two times, but in my 30+ years on the planet, I've generally come to know how I will react long term to something given my first few listens, and I would be totally shocked at myself if I ended up liking this.

id burn myself a new bond cd right now to include DAD if it werent for that idiot on it.

It's not that difficult. Use MP3 editing software, and edit the radio dude out of there. Meaning, crop the portions off with him in it. It's not that difficult.

[WhiteKnight]

Originally posted by Joe Siegler

It's not that difficult.  Use MP3 editing software, and edit the radio dude out of there.  Meaning, crop the portions off with him in it.  It's not that difficult.

Yea it isn't difficult but you'd cut off the (IMO) pretty good string bits from the song...
Too bad he decided to talk during those bits..
I suggest waiting for a clean copy first before burning a CD...

[level007]

hi

i like the "die another day" song. It s clear that the song is different but hey the bond movie need to evoluate a little bit. Maybe some people remenber what David Arnold said in 1997: One foot in the 60', one foot in the future (or something like that). And what Madonna did is this.

Also for those who don't like it very much, don't forget that this is the radio edit, and the movie edit will be a lot more with the violins and madonna's voice like they did for TWINE.

Anyway this is great publicity for the movie

[boeserzwilling]

I think it's great. Bond is up to date ...again! Only because it's the 40th anniversary, it doesn't mean they should do everything like they did 40 years ago.
The DAD title sequence will be very fast and Daniel Kleinman can put a lot of stuff into it. I also believe that David Arnold is going to include some of the theme's tunes into the original score.
I only hope the mp3-quality would be better.

[mattbowyer]

Jimmy, i was referring to the dj on the clip. Being australian it sounds even more jarring than it might for you US guys...

I couldn't love this more. Been listening to it all day and its so good. Think of the amount of publicity its already bringing the film, its nothing compared to when this song hits. As well as the trailer and poster all in the one week. Next : a djless version.

[Tedley King]

Question - What does Bond music sound like? Nobody Does It Better? The Living Daylights?
Question - Are those two songs not different? I mean, NDIB is a slow kind of love song, TLD is more of an upbeat song. No similarities there, apart from that they are both songs used for Bond films. Madonna's is a song used for the Bond film, so thereofer I consider it a Bond song. What's the difference. Change is good.
Question - Why can't you see it as appearing in the title sequence? I can. I can imagine Bond being caught then that song appearing. Personally I think it would make the audience feel aggressive, like they are wanting some kind of retribution (?), that Bond comes back and kicks ***! No doubt he will, but I think this is the only song that could pull off this pre-title sequence followed by the title sequence. Imagine NDIB for DAD's title sequence song - it just wont seem right, nor would a-ha's TLD.

[Colonel Moon]

Good words Tedley

[ray t]

i have to say that having listened to it for close to 70 times since friday after work that my rating has gone up!!!!

from 8.3 to 9!!!

i'm 37 and have been watching james bond on the big screen since 1971 and all during that time, bond and the villians have been using the most cutting edge and futuristic technology on the planet

its been BOND and BEYOND

this techno oriendted song IS BOND and BEYOND

i never want to be bogged down in the past and i never want bond/bond art/bond music/bond literature to bogged down in the past and hats off to EON and to Madonna for being gutsy enough to stray away from the ballad approach that weve had lately.

to TIM and BLUE EYES, u guys are in the minority. ive been a bond fan and a bond music fan for longer than you guys and i love it.

its fresh, futuristic and it has a great beat...as for tradition, the lyrics and the strings pay homage to the tradition.

THUNDERBALL is my number 1 bond movie, but i rate this song better than thunderball....lest i say it, only a handfull of the songs i'd rate better than this.

....namely AVTAK, YOLT, DAF, NDIB, GE and LALD

cant wait for the video and the soundtrack....

and look at the publicity for heavens sake....isnt this what we wanted?

[Sir James]

COULD SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE ME A LINK TO THE SONG, ALL THE LINKS ARE GONE, AND I HAVE HAD NO LUCK FINDING IT ON KAZA!!!???!!!

[tofu 007]

you can find a link to it on a lot of the popular madonna sites, since it's gone from here... never to be seen again

does anyone else find it funny that the guy who called into z100 is practically famous because his voice is on every mp3 of the song... lol

[tofu 007]

you're right ray t the publicity for DAD will be huge this time, unlike TWINE, mgm has barely started marketing the movie, and the two teasers and theme song are already a hot topic.

and isn't it great that whenever a radio station plays it most of the time they'll mention that it's from the upcoming Bond flick? great way to reach the non-hardcore fans that aren't already obsessed with DAD like us.

[cool guy]

IMO, this is one of the best Bond themes in a while! It's one of my favorites!

[JimmyBond]

Originally posted by Joe Siegler
Ewww...  

- but I fail to understand how the people in this thread who have said they truly liked it can think that.    

Well guess what. Not everyone thinks the way you do. That may be a shocker to you, but its true. You dont see me saying "I fail to understand why you dont like it" do you? No you do not, you know why? Cause I respect everyones opinions, why dont you try doing that.

[JimmyBond]

Originally posted by mattbowyer
Jimmy, i was referring to the dj on the clip. Being australian it sounds even more jarring than it might for you US guys...

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Apoligies are in order than. Simple misunderstanding really. I also agree that the DJ is jarring, wish he wasnt on the track. Yes, I am in the US, but this guy is worse than any DJ I've ever heard.

[Rich Douglas]

Alright, I CAN'T STAND THE SONG! Of course, thats just my opnion. It doesn't sound bondish at all (unless of course the version I am listening to right now is a remix). I don't see how the beat and the voice tweaks will work in a bond title sequence. The song is sure to be a hit in dance clubs and strip clubs all over the U.S. because of it's beat. The synthy orchestrations have GOT to go, it's is too much like "around the world" by daft punk for my liking. Sorry guys, I may be the only one here, but I hate this song and think it is a discrace to the bond franchise. They needed Arnold to do the orchestrating. Now I'm a bit worried about the film itself. Before anyone decides to jump on me about this, I am entitled to my own opinion and am boycotting this damn song from my film score library. It's an outrage.

Rich

[Loomis]

I'm happy to say I haven't heard the song yet, and will do my best to avoid it completely until I see DAD at a cinema (probably easier said than done, but I don't intend to knowingly listen to it). Sounds very interesting, though and not the traditionalist fare I was expecting. Like most of us, I was expecting something along the lines of Beautiful Stranger, but it seems this is the return of the Madonna who gave us Justify My Love and Music. Cool.

[rubixcub]

Right now I'm trying to decide between DAD and TWINE as my least favorite Bond theme. I can only hope that we'll be hearing a different version over the opening credits. Okay, the electronic music I can tolerate; I'm not crazy about it, but I can live with it. But the voice through the vocoder and all the electronic sounds make it sound like junk, like a robot going haywire!

Now I'll admit we needed a change following TWINE, but doesn't this seem like a case of throwing out the baby with the bathwater? Let's not scrap everything just to get away from the parts that didn't work.

I liked the original instrumental audio clip, actually; it didn't have all the weird electronic sounds, only the electronic music. I can only hope that this is a radio-only mix and the titles music won't be quite so techno.

What does everyone think about the chances that what we'll hear over the opening credits will be a different version than this?

Dave

[Mourning Becomes Electra]

What I'm wondering, the version of the song played on the radio is over 4 minutes long. The reported time of the radio edit on the CD is 3.29. Is this the same version of the song just longer or a different mix?

As for the song itself, I love the strings and the underlying melody and think Arnold could do quite well with the orchestration and arrangement of it and incorporating the theme into parts of the score.

I could do without the distortion of her voice with the vocoder, I don't much care for the little girl voice, and much prefer Madonan's current voice to the one she used in the 80's in songs like Borderline, and that's what the vocoder makes her voice sound like again.

It's a great dance song, very catchy but I'm wondering how it's going to be successfully incorporated over what we know to be darker than usual credits. And while the lyrics are apporpriately dark, I don't think dancing around is the mood one's looking for

Spoiler

while Bond is being tortured

. But as with previous themes, the radio version is not necessarily the same as we see over the credits, it might have a slightly slower tempo or a different orchestration which emphasizes the strings over the electronica, and I thnk that would work better.

Oh well, we'll see in about 2 months.