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[Scamp]

A contentious question I know! But it will while away a few hours!

Given the images from the trailer do "we" feel that Mr Craig is too lean/athletic or was he too "big"/bodybuilderish in Casino Royale? Many people felt his size in CR was spot on and gave credence to the fact that he had just come out of the SAS etc and that he really looked the part and had the right image. Daniel himself said that he wanted to be less "no neck" for QoS.

What are the views from the floor........... !

[Vauxhall]

I guess his body shape in QUANTUM OF SOLACE is merely a natural progression from CASINO ROYALE. As someone who is no longer in active military service, he has no need to be as purely muscular as he once was. He obviously still wishes to keep in shape, and be fit and healthy, so I'm guessing he simply lays off the protein shakes but continues the occasional gym session.

[00Twelve]

There really isn't that big of a difference. He's still built like a brick house. He's only slightly less swollen.

[Binyamin]

I personally like the bigger look from CR. It makes the action more believable.

However, it makes sense that we wouldn't be as muscled. In SAS they would spend months building up for a deployment. As a Double-Oh it seems he would be "in the field" almost constantly, and you can't exactly go to a gym every day.


Although now that I think about it, wasn't Bond supposed to be MI6 for a while before CR anyway? SAS would have been a while ago.

[ImTheMoneypenny]

You can sort of see in some scenes in CR that Craig's not as muscular as he is in other scenes. I think he's just right as he is now in QoS. He's not as wiry as he was before CR and but not as densely muscular as in CR.

[Mister E]

I don't see much difference. Do we really need another nitpick thread ?

[Righty007]

No.

(A short answer is all this thread warrants. Sorry.)

[Scamp]

Yes...... another short answer! Don't apologise

This is no more "nitpick" than many others..it's more observational!
People disliked the CR physique, I just wondered if the slimmed down version made them happy this time!

We could discuss what type of wellington boots Bond wears versus those worn by Paddington Bear of course, but that would be irrelevant!

[jaguar007]

Since QoS is supposed to pick up where CR left off, I think he should have been the same size as he was in CR.

[Judo chop]

In a fight between Craig and me, I'd bet on Craig. That's pretty much all I ask for when it comes to Bond's physique.

(And no... I don't mean I'd throw the fight for the cash )

[Righty007]

Let's talk about Gemma Arterton's body instead of Craig's. Just an idea.

[Judo chop]

Now, in THAT case, I may throw the fight.

[CamExam]

Theres not that much of a difference. There was only one clip in the trailer where he looked kinda slim

[Qwerty]

I think he looked fine as Bond for Casino Royale and think he does for this one as well.

[Vodka Martino]

He does look slimmer in the "QoS" trailer, which worries me slightly since this film is supposed to pick up approx 20 mins after the events of "Casino Royale". If you follow this logic, will he be totally emaciated by film's end? You know, a la Christian Bale in "The Machinist" or Adrian Brody in "The Pianist"? And if that's the case, should "QoS" be re-titled "The Secret Agentist"?
Oh, man, I need to eat some lunch.

Vodka Martino

P.S.- I've kept a low profile around these forums so as not to read too much regarding plot details and other potential spoilers. Nice to be back.

[Bondian]

Let's talk about Gemma Arterton's body instead of Craig's. Just an idea.

Agreed. She's variably an inflammatory additional to my underpants.

How clean can one get.

[Flash1087]

In a fight between Craig and me, I'd bet on Craig. That's pretty much all I ask for when it comes to Bond's physique.

(And no... I don't mean I'd throw the fight for the cash )

I dunno, man...your name IS Judo Chop, you've probably had some training.

[001carus]

Has Daniel Craig "slimmed" down TOO much for QoS?

[Loomis]

I personally like the bigger look from CR. It makes the action more believable.

However, it makes sense that we wouldn't be as muscled. In SAS they would spend months building up for a deployment. As a Double-Oh it seems he would be "in the field" almost constantly, and you can't exactly go to a gym every day.


Although now that I think about it, wasn't Bond supposed to be MI6 for a while before CR anyway? SAS would have been a while ago.

Yeah, Craig's look in CR was really that of a semi-professional bodybuilder who trained with a lot of "help". That famous scene of him emerging from the sea is good to look at and won him many fans, and I do appreciate that it's a Bond flick and thus escapist fantasy rather than gritty documentary or something, but he does look ridiculously over-pumped-up. He looks like the kind of guy who refuses to climb a flight of stairs because he's worried that it'd count as excessive cardio, which is hardly believable for a Double-O (or indeed for anyone who wasn't a seriously dedicated bodybuilder).

Has Daniel Craig "slimmed" down TOO much for QoS?

Biceps seem to be verging on the disproportionally large, and the abs definition could be better. Perhaps he needs to slim down MORE?

[David Schofield]

I personally like the bigger look from CR. It makes the action more believable.

However, it makes sense that we wouldn't be as muscled. In SAS they would spend months building up for a deployment. As a Double-Oh it seems he would be "in the field" almost constantly, and you can't exactly go to a gym every day.


Although now that I think about it, wasn't Bond supposed to be MI6 for a while before CR anyway? SAS would have been a while ago.

Yeah, Craig's look in CR was really that of a semi-professional bodybuilder who trained with a lot of "help". That famous scene of him emerging from the sea is good to look at and won him many fans, and I do appreciate that it's a Bond flick and thus escapist fantasy rather than gritty documentary or something, but he does look ridiculously over-pumped-up. He looks like the kind of guy who refuses to climb a flight of stairs because he's worried that it'd count as excessive cardio, which is hardly believable for a Double-O (or indeed for anyone who wasn't a seriously dedicated bodybuilder).

Has Daniel Craig "slimmed" down TOO much for QoS?

Biceps seem to be verging on the disproportionally large, and the abs definition could be better. Perhaps he needs to slim down MORE?

Agree 100%.

The lets bulk up Dan campaign by Craig and EON for CR was a brilliant concept and worked superbly in the marketing of Craig as Bond.

As a marketing idea - you replace an astonshingly good-looking, tall though slightly-built man with a short, blond man with, er, rugged looks - by emphasising Craig's "strengths" was a great coup.

Sadly, I think it went too far. James Bond should, in my opinion, never be as bulky as Craig became. Glad that QOS seems to have addressed that.

Oh, and Loom, do you know how many Craig fanboys you are going to anger by suggesting that he might have had "help" from 'roids...

[MkB]

Agreed, Loomis and David Schofield!
To keep the CR look, Bond would have to live on egg whites and dehydrated protein meals, instead of Champagne and oysters. Not very Bondian!
And I do agree too that Craig could get a little bit leaner on the stomach, for the abs. But this too would require to cut down Champagne and oysters!

[Loomis]

If the Craig in this pic were to put the weights aside for a month or so and do almost nothing but ab crunches, pressups and half an hour of (flat out) running three times a week, he'd look perfect (assuming a decent diet and no alcohol). But he does need to hit that treadmill like it was responsible for the death of Vesper.

[BoogieBond]

Still looks pretty beefy from the Teaser.
I would have said he is "Schtill in pretty good schape"
He could do with a visit to shrublands on an intensive abs crunch course I suppose, if he wants really cut abs.

Edited by BoogieBond, 16 September 2008 - 12:44 PM.

[double o ego]

Craig climbing a flight of stairs would be a no-no because it's excessive cardio?? Uh, did you not see his Bond engage in a gripping and heart pumping chase after Moloka, where there was some serious climbing and jumping involved? And pretty much 2/3 of the miami scnes was him running all over the place.

Anyway, as for Craig's physique, there's nothung wrong with his abs, sometimes, the lighting can make your abs look less defined than it actually is or depending on how one is standing, one's abs may not look as defined also. Based on Craig's overall appearance, there's nothing wrong with him in the slightest, he is by far the most fittest and in shape Bond there has ever been and he looks to be in credible shape for a man who does what he does.

[BoogieBond]

Craig climbing a flight of stairs would be a no-no because it's excessive cardio?? Uh, did you not see his Bond engage in a gripping and heart pumping chase after Moloka, where there was some serious climbing and jumping involved? And pretty much 2/3 of the miami scnes was him running all over the place.

Anyway, as for Craig's physique, there's nothung wrong with his abs, sometimes, the lighting can make your abs look less defined than it actually is or depending on how one is standing, one's abs may not look as defined also. Based on Craig's overall appearance, there's nothing wrong with him in the slightest, he is by far the most fittest and in shape Bond there has ever been and he looks to be in credible shape for a man who does what he does.

Yes, the mollaka chase was great, just to see Bond chasing Mollaka at full pace. He is the fittest bond for me, just shading out Lazenby, but both were extremely physical bonds, Craig just has a bit more bulk and power.
I agree his abs are pretty defined for us mere mortals.

[dodge]

As one who posted quite some time ago, hoping for a more trimmed-down physique--a la Stallone in Rocky III--I'm pleased. But if the new film starts off 15 mins or so after CR, hopefully some time will have passed later on in the film--to account for the change. Anyway, if not, I can live with the logical lapse. So long, beefy Dan and hello, lean machine.

[double o ego]

I think it's also important to know that, some people can lose weight/mass in just a day or two. As some one who works out every day and eats healthily, there are times where I've lost 5 to 6lbs in a single day just doing regular work outs AND keeping myself hydrated. If that can happen to me, with all the physical stuff Bond gets upto and that includes his sexual escapades *wink-wink*, him losing some mass and looking slightly leaner not long after CR is very plausible.

[QuantumOO7FSolace]

As one who posted quite some time ago, hoping for a more trimmed-down physique--a la Stallone in Rocky III--I'm pleased. But if the new film starts off 15 mins or so after CR, hopefully some time will have passed later on in the film--to account for the change. Anyway, if not, I can live with the logical lapse. So long, beefy Dan and hello, lean machine.

well folks, he was in great physical shape and carried himself with confidence in Casino, he definitely looked as guy who could strangle you to death with his hands! One would be enough!

In Quantum Of Solace, he looks sexier and from i heard he moves as fast like a knife than in Casino Royale! Plus, there much more actions unfolding! I see him sexier and leaner in this one! But his build is good and convincing!

[tim partridge]

I think it's also important to know that, some people can lose weight/mass in just a day or two.

Especially through bereavement related stress.

Did Brosnan work out in any other Bond outside of GOLDENEYE?

[NVT]

Not all SF guys are built like CR DCs. They are just more used using what strength they have in the most efficient way, of course you got to have some muscle tone and structure, but not built like a body builder.