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Posted 25 July 2008 - 12:04 AM

Look at this

http://www.play.com/...;searchsource=1


2 Disc ultimate editions? plus a picture of the box set.

Interesting. Hopefully we'll hear an official announcement soon.

#152 Qwerty

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 12:26 AM

So it appears at least from those Play.com listings that it will merely be a transfer of the Ultimate Editions from DVD to Blu-ray.

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 04:02 AM

Are 2 discs really necessary for the Blu-ray releases of these films? Current Blu-rays are capable of holding up to 50 gigabytes of data, which is, I would think, more than enough to hold a high definition Bond film and the standard definition (I'm assuming) special features.

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 04:10 AM

Are 2 discs really necessary for the Blu-ray releases of these films? Current Blu-rays are capable of holding up to 50 gigabytes of data, which is, I would think, more than enough to hold a high definition Bond film and the standard definition (I'm assuming) special features.

They might think two discs looks better to the consumer than just one. I think that's stupid but that's why I'm not in marketing. If they can fit all the special features, they should do it because that's more convenient.

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 04:16 AM

Are 2 discs really necessary for the Blu-ray releases of these films? Current Blu-rays are capable of holding up to 50 gigabytes of data, which is, I would think, more than enough to hold a high definition Bond film and the standard definition (I'm assuming) special features.

They might think two discs looks better to the consumer than just one. I think that's stupid but that's why I'm not in marketing. If they can fit all the special features, they should do it because that's more convenient.


I think that you're right, but I also think that it's the wrong marketing approach to take with Blu-ray. If anything, they should be promoting the fact that they can fit so much material onto one disc which would make the format even more appealing. Currently, Blu-rays can hold 50 gigabytes, but currently there is work being done to try to make discs that can hold even more than that. I think that that is what should be promoted with the Blu-ray format, rather than how many discs are included in the case.

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 07:15 AM

It's possible the 2nd disc will be the second disc of every UE identical in SD DVD, just like they did with Blade Runner with some discs in the set being regular DVDs. This would leave every bit on the first BR disc for PQ and gladly so.

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 08:13 AM

I'm not seeing any reference to the blu-rays being two disc editions - they do link to UE DVDs that are two disc. They also say that the artwork is to be confirmed :tup:

What I am liking is the £17 price. Not quite what I'd like to see, but getting closer.

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 11:07 AM

So these will be movie only editions ? With no commentaries ?

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 11:14 AM

I imagine they'll have at least whatever commentaries there were on the DVDs. I seriously doubt they can tempt Connery to do any though.

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 02:24 PM

So these will be movie only editions ? With no commentaries ?


With special features yet to be confirmed, its hard to say at this point. My personal guess is that these Blu-ray discs will be carbon copies of the Ultimate Edition releases when it comes to the special features, including audio commentaries.

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 04:17 AM

Now on the CBn main page...

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Same as Ultimate Edition extras; plus a look at US box cover artwork


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Posted 30 July 2008 - 04:35 AM

What the :tup: is up with these random pairings? Dr. No, Live and Let Die and Die Another Day in one set?

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 05:18 AM

What the :tup: is up with these random pairings? Dr. No, Live and Let Die and Die Another Day in one set?


So people buy the lesser-liked ones. Makes sense to me. Not saying I like it, but it does kind of make sense.

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 05:26 AM

What the :tup: is up with these random pairings? Dr. No, Live and Let Die and Die Another Day in one set?


So people buy the lesser-liked ones. Makes sense to me. Not saying I like it, but it does kind of make sense.

Lesser-liked ones? That's a matter of opinion. Dr. No and Live and Let Die are way more liked than Die Another Day. I think they should do singles or one box set. None of this in-between crap.

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 05:27 AM

This is where I'm dumb. (not the first time eh, wanker :tup: ) But I guess the quality will be the same as the UA's?

Surely the UA editions will be slapped on a bigger disk albeit with a better compression but with the same quality?

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 05:37 AM

This is where I'm dumb. (not the first time eh, wanker :tup: ) But I guess the quality will be the same as the UA's?

Surely the UA editions will be slapped on a bigger disk albeit with a better compression but with the same quality?

Do you mean the Ultimate Editions (UE) or United Artists (UA) Editions (Don't exist)? :tup:

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 05:44 AM

This is where I'm dumb. (not the first time eh, wanker :) ) But I guess the quality will be the same as the UA's?

Surely the UA editions will be slapped on a bigger disk albeit with a better compression but with the same quality?

Do you mean the Ultimate Editions (UE) or United Artists (UA) Editions (Don't exist)? :tup:

Sorry. I'm a little drunk tonight. I mean the UE's, my friend. :(

The UA editions was just wishful thinking. :tup:

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 07:53 AM

This is where I'm dumb. (not the first time eh, wanker :tup: ) But I guess the quality will be the same as the UA's?

Surely the UA editions will be slapped on a bigger disk albeit with a better compression but with the same quality?


It should be considerably better. The Ultimate Editions were encoded in standard definition, with typically about 480 lines of vertical definition by 630 horizontal, or in total about 300,000 pixels of information per frame.

Blu-Ray's definition is 1080 vertically by 1920 horizontally, or about 2,000,000 pixels of information per frame. So the uplift in quality will be considerable (about 6x is the number often quoted). In addition colour rendition should be better.

The sound qualilty is also potentially better, but I guess with the older films the quality of the original recordings will limit the scope for improvement

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 08:43 AM

Clearly there will be more bluray editions coming further down the line...
I'm glad I didn't fork out for the UEs when they came out. Will pick up the BRs when the prices drop a little.

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 10:37 AM

It says on the Main Page that Die Another Day will include Trailers and TV Spots, aswell as radio communications. So are some of the special features from the first Die Another Day DVD release being brought forward or Is this just a typo?

I'm more interested in seeing the Deleted Scenes myself.

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 03:34 PM

What the :tup: is up with these random pairings? Dr. No, Live and Let Die and Die Another Day in one set?


So people buy the lesser-liked ones. Makes sense to me. Not saying I like it, but it does kind of make sense.

Lesser-liked ones? That's a matter of opinion. Dr. No and Live and Let Die are way more liked than Die Another Day. I think they should do singles or one box set. None of this in-between crap.



Thankfully you can buy them seperately as well this time around: http://commanderbond.net/article/5325

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 04:07 PM

This is where I'm dumb. (not the first time eh, wanker :tup: ) But I guess the quality will be the same as the UA's?

Surely the UA editions will be slapped on a bigger disk albeit with a better compression but with the same quality?


It should be considerably better. The Ultimate Editions were encoded in standard definition, with typically about 480 lines of vertical definition by 630 horizontal, or in total about 300,000 pixels of information per frame.

Blu-Ray's definition is 1080 vertically by 1920 horizontally, or about 2,000,000 pixels of information per frame. So the uplift in quality will be considerable (about 6x is the number often quoted). In addition colour rendition should be better.

The sound qualilty is also potentially better, but I guess with the older films the quality of the original recordings will limit the scope for improvement

Thanks very much for the info, oatesy. :tup:

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 07:33 PM

It says on the Main Page that Die Another Day will include Trailers and TV Spots, aswell as radio communications. So are some of the special features from the first Die Another Day DVD release being brought forward or Is this just a typo?

I'm more interested in seeing the Deleted Scenes myself.


The listing has been updated.

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 11:33 PM

This is where I'm dumb. (not the first time eh, wanker :tup: ) But I guess the quality will be the same as the UA's?

Surely the UA editions will be slapped on a bigger disk albeit with a better compression but with the same quality?


It should be considerably better. The Ultimate Editions were encoded in standard definition, with typically about 480 lines of vertical definition by 630 horizontal, or in total about 300,000 pixels of information per frame.

Blu-Ray's definition is 1080 vertically by 1920 horizontally, or about 2,000,000 pixels of information per frame. So the uplift in quality will be considerable (about 6x is the number often quoted). In addition colour rendition should be better.

The sound qualilty is also potentially better, but I guess with the older films the quality of the original recordings will limit the scope for improvement

On thing I have not seen is whether or not they are going to use the 4K scans they made of the Connery movies for this release or if they are just going to remaster the UE DVDs for HD. Same goes for the audio - Casino Royale has uncompressed PCM 5.1 so I would think they would go with this same format. I hope I am wrong but I think the 4K scans will come out in the next Blu-ray release so we have a reason to by them again.

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 03:02 AM

Your last post doesn't make any sense, the UE are sourced from the 4K scan only compressed do DVD size. Of course the BR will be the same 4K scans, they obviously picked titles which had the less problems on the UE (ie no Goldeneye fiasco or YOLT colorless black and white version).

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 11:10 AM

Just found this poster over at DVDActive. :tup:

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 12:59 PM

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 01:07 PM

I can't say I like these random film pairings.

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 02:07 PM

I can't say I like these random film pairings.


Random doesn't begin to describe it.

I'd much rather buy them one at a time.

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 02:52 PM

DN and LALD have a certain logic to their grouping, beyond that...