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[Qwerty]

People are having problems playing them on the PS3 as well, which usually plays everything.

Indeed. The reviews on sites like Amazon are not too good lately for these Blu-ray Bonds because of this issue... they better figure out what the deal is soon.

[eddychaput]

Hmm... it looks like those Bond Blue-Rays are causing the blues... That really won't reflect well on the distributors of the discs. Bond is a highly lucrative franchise and there are legions of fans out there who are willing to spend the cash if there's a 007 logo on the box. People are going to feel cheated on.

[Turn]

All this trouble is dampening my enthusisasm. I just picked up both sets and CR today. At least I got free QoS tickets out of it.

[eddychaput]

All this trouble is dampening my enthusisasm. I just picked up both sets and CR today. At least I got free QoS tickets out of it.

Yeah, there was a ticket in my box of CR Collector's Edition. The first time I see QOS it'll practically be for free ( I think the ticket is actually 10.50$ off the admission price). Here in Montreal, Tuesdays are only 5$, so basically I'll see QOS at least twice for about 6$! I can't wait!

[Arbogast777]

From today's Digital Bits:

"One other quick note: A number of readers have e-mailed us to report that Sony has informed them that a firmware update will be issued some time next week correct the Bond Blu-ray playback problems reported earlier. We suspect other manufacturers will follow suit, so stay tuned."

The point is, Sony - you shouldn't have to instill firmware updates just to watch a damn movie! I won't even mention the fact that the firmware updates are only available to those with PC's - us Mac users are screwed!

[eddychaput]

That's a sad state of affairs.

[Bondian]

Last time I upgraded the firmware on my sons PS3 it killed the system. I'll need to get the updates for the replacement we received in order to watch these. But if this one dies, I'll ask for another replacement WITH the necessary updates.

We never had this problem with video.

[5 BONDS]

Your brand new Sony player is not the bdp s350?..I have ordered this model myself and also if it is have you installed the latest firmware 010?

Yes, it was the S350 with newest firmware. People are having problems playing them on the PS3 as well, which usually plays everything.

For your interest and anyone else who has this model. Just reading online on a forum and apparently someone has been able to play all off them flawlessly and guess what the firmware is before the update 010.....firmware 007...look at the irony . If there is any way to go back I would try...but this looks like good news...you only really need the new firmware for the BD live contents which i'm not interested in and the bond flicks don't have any anyway.

I purchased this player just for Bond and if this info helps Arbogast777 see if you can go back to the previous firmware.

Edited by 5 BONDS, 25 October 2008 - 07:19 AM.

[Tarl_Cabot]

Chud was rough on DAD:

http://chud.com/arti...-DAY/Page1.html

although 6.9 out of 10 is good for them the original review was like a 5.3 outta 10.

[eddychaput]

Chud was rough on DAD:

http://chud.com/arti...-DAY/Page1.html

although 6.9 out of 10 is good for them the original review was like a 5.3 outta 10.

I'd be rough on DAD too if I had to review it.

[Professor Dent]

Yeah, it was worse. Original DVD websites had miles long lists of DVDs that didn't work on some machines, and the machines listings. Majors were forced to reprint new discs in many instances. Because the machines were not computers (like BR machines), but mechanical only, once you had a player that didn't work with some discs, you were stuck, whereas now, an update will render a problematic title readable. It's always the same when a new format is launched. BR players are more like computers. If something doesn't work, there will be an update to fix it.

There shouldn't even be a need for updates. Before they release a 'standard' format they should actually agree on what that standard is, rather than just allowing a facility to change their minds.

And yeah... a DVD player is as much a "computer" as a Blu-Ray player, having its own processor, memory, etc. Having an interface to update firmware, is just that- don't overplay it as some revolutionary feature only super computers can handle.

Quite. The bottom line is I shouldn't have to bloody well download updates to play a Blu Ray disc. At the moment, I am up-to-here-with-updates and the damned things still won't play. Presumably - hopefully? - another update will eventually solve the problem. But, I tell you what, this is doing nothing to endear me to the format.

I was an early adopter of DVD's & had a couple discs that didn't work but those playback issues were due to problems with the manufacturing & pressing process & not a player software issue. Blu-ray discs & players have been on the market since June 2006 & the fact that there are issues with every other disc release is inexcusable. I can see firmware updates to watch online features & such but you should not need to complete an update just to watch the movie. Movie studios keep trying crazy new copy restriction schemes that some thirteen year old cracks in no time & the rest of us live with the pain of just trying to get a movie to play so we can enjoy it. This won't fix itself until the movie studios stop treating all of us like thieves & more like customers.

Apple recently updated all of their laptops & left Blu-ray out of all of them again. When Steve Jobs was asked why in a Q&A session after the event, he said: "You know, Blu-ray is a bag of hurt. The licensing is so complex, we're waiting until things settle down before we burden our customers with the cost of the licensing and the cost of the drives." Apple has been in the Blu-ray camp from the beginning & this is both interesting & disappointing insight from a partner.

On the Bond movies, I did a quick play of all six of them in my PS3 & all played without any issues. I've yet to watch any of them all the way through but one noticeable difference is the colors seem to pop off the screen. In flipping through all six in a row, I noticed the volume on Live and Let Die was louder than any of the other releases.

[kbob]

Like other players, the Sharp BD-HP20 (with latest firmware update) does not play back the movies or special features.

I left a message at Sharp support:
http://www.sharpusa.....,1878,,00.html

Also sent an e-mail to Fox Blu-Ray Support:
[email protected]

I encourage others to contact Fox and their Blu-Ray manufacturers for updates. The more negative feedback they receive, the sooner the problem will be resolved.

Bob

[DamnCoffee]

You think that these will work ok on a PS3?

[oatesy]

You think that these will work ok on a PS3?

The first five work fine in a PS3 and look amazing. I don't know about DUD though, going to wait until there is big sale on before I get that one

[DamnCoffee]

Great! Thanks! :tup:

[bondrules]

Yep. This update nonsense really gets me, too. You should just be able to throw the disc in and press play.

That's why I am never buying Blue Ray.

[jaguar007]

I have a Samsung 1400 that I have had for almost a year, as long as I keep the firmware updates current, I have NEVER had a problem playing a Blu Ray disc until...FYEO!

[bondrules]

FYEO!

LOL

If I ever buy one, I'll go samsung.

Edited by bondrules, 25 October 2008 - 10:24 PM.

[Qwerty]

You think that these will work ok on a PS3?

Seems like a gamble at the moment.

[Arbogast777]

HERE'S an article on the problem with the Bond Blu's...

[stamper]

They all work on my PS3 with no problem.

[Problem Eliminator]

I bought all 6 "catalog" Bond BR's and the new CR 2 disc. Haven't had any playback issues with the two I've watched (DN and LALD), but I encountered another infuriating obstacle.

Instead of including the traditional paper faux-ticket inside for the advertised "Quantum of Solace movie cash," the "free ticket" comes via a code printed on the back of the sticker on the front of the slipcase. Problem is, the darn stickers are affixed so strongly to the cases, that peeling them off totally mutilates the foil slipcase and, I assume, renders the code unreadable (I stopped mid-peel because it was taking such a toll on the cover).

I was able to redeem the movie cash voucher from the CR 2D because the sticker was on the plastic outer wrap instead of a foil slipcase, but for the other 6 tiles I'm out $10.50 each of the promised QOS movie cash, and the slipcovers are mucked up with goofy stickers that I can't take off without ruining them! (An improvement over the shoddy cover art some would say, but that's a discussion for another thread).

So, just curious whether any of the rest of you have experienced the same sticky situation. I got all the BR's individually through amazon, so perhaps it's just a problem unique to their slipcases. Anyone else have the same sticker snafu?

[Turn]

Thanks for the warning. I haven't tried it just yet, but when I do I will proceed with caution.

[tdalton]

Thanks for the information about the discs. I almost picked one up the other day, but decided against it, and am now very glad that I didn't purchase it. Maybe the next release, the "Super-Extreme Ultimate Special Collectors' Edition" ( ) , will fix the problem.

[oatesy]

There seems to be an awful lot of negativity on this board. These discs all work fine on a PS3 and that is how most people will access them (it is by far and away the best selling Blu-Ray player).

OK, there are major problems with some other players which is very embarrasing indeed for Sony and Fox, but Sony will issue a firmware update next week and the other manufacturers will follow as well. Selling the discs on ebay at a massive loss or vowing never to buy them seems to me to be a bit of an over-reaction.

Let's not forget that these discs are delivering these films to us in a way that is not only considerably better than any other video/dvd presentation but in a quality that has likely never been before ever - even on the films initial releases.

The botches on color timing etc. seen on the Ultimate editions have all been corrected and the level of detail, even compared to the upscaled UEs is staggering. I don't see how these films can ever look better

[jaguar007]

There seems to be an awful lot of negativity on this board. These discs all work fine on a PS3 and that is how most people will access them (it is by far and away the best selling Blu-Ray player).

OK, there are major problems with some other players which is very embarrasing indeed for Sony and Fox, but Sony will issue a firmware update next week and the other manufacturers will follow as well. Selling the discs on ebay at a massive loss or vowing never to buy them seems to me to be a bit of an over-reaction.

Let's not forget that these discs are delivering these films to us in a way that is not only considerably better than any other video/dvd presentation but in a quality that has likely never been before ever - even on the films initial releases.

The botches on color timing etc. seen on the Ultimate editions have all been corrected and the level of detail, even compared to the upscaled UEs is staggering. I don't see how these films can ever look better

Agreed. I'm not returning my FYEO because I know within the next few weeks there will be a firmware update that will fix the problem.

[RivenWinner]

There should be a lot of negativity on this board and it's all completely justified.

As someone previously stated, Blu-Ray technology has been on the market for well over two years now. Problems of this sort are inexcusable and downright insulting to consumers. Sony, along with other manufactures, need to stop hyping their products and rushing them to the market before they're actually built properly and ready to use. Having to install firmware updates makes sense for online content and what not, but to have to install firmware updates multiple times to watch certain films? Please.

Consumers need to wake up and get smart or something. I've been getting the impression that consumers as a whole are just getting dumber and dumber. These sorts of incidents, as well as Micorsoft's "Red Ring of Death" on the Xbox 360, are disgusting, insulting and downright abusive of consumers. Consumers have a right to stand up to these sorts of things, and it is in the right to complain and demand explanations.

I'm not going to thrust this thread back into an HD-DVD vs Blu_Ray war, but HD-DVD, although short lived, didn't face nearly as many problems that are plaguing Blu. May I also add that HD-DVD was region free?

[kbob]

SHARP BD-HP20 firmware update!!! I had e-mailed Sharp support yesterday and just now received the following reply:

Thank you for contacting Sharp Electronics Corporation's AQUOS support.

We are aware of the issue and currently working on a firmware upgrade. It should be available shortly. I apologize for the inconvenience.

[tdalton]

Consumers need to wake up and get smart or something. I've been getting the impression that consumers as a whole are just getting dumber and dumber. These sorts of incidents, as well as Micorsoft's "Red Ring of Death" on the Xbox 360, are disgusting, insulting and downright abusive of consumers. Consumers have a right to stand up to these sorts of things, and it is in the right to complain and demand explanations.

Agreed. It looked as though Blu-ray had finally gotten things going in the right direction, but this news certainly sets back the progress that had been made. If Sony and the BDA want Blu-ray to be widely adopted, things like this have to stop happening in addition to a significant price-cut on both players and discs.

[Professor Dent]

There seems to be an awful lot of negativity on this board. These discs all work fine on a PS3 and that is how most people will access them (it is by far and away the best selling Blu-Ray player).

Don't mistake frustration for negativity. I have a PS3 & all the movies do work fine but I would like to ditch the PS3 for a standalone player. Looks like those plans are on hold for now.

OK, there are major problems with some other players which is very embarrasing indeed for Sony and Fox, but Sony will issue a firmware update next week and the other manufacturers will follow as well. Selling the discs on ebay at a massive loss or vowing never to buy them seems to me to be a bit of an over-reaction.

The frustration here is that people paid good money for these discs only to get home & find out they don't work. The fact that some firmware update that might solve the problem may be released next week would not make me feel better. As a paying customer, that answer just doesn't work for me. Now, if some company wants to pay me to be a beta tester for this stuff versus me doing it now for free, I'd be interested.

Let's not forget that these discs are delivering these films to us in a way that is not only considerably better than any other video/dvd presentation but in a quality that has likely never been before ever - even on the films initial releases.

The botches on color timing etc. seen on the Ultimate editions have all been corrected and the level of detail, even compared to the upscaled UEs is staggering. I don't see how these films can ever look better

I agree with you on the quality. I've watched Dr. No so far & it looked excellent.