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How do you rate Sebastian Faulks' centenary novel?

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#121 ACE

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 12:57 PM

Because we are Bond fans, and we have favourites. It is ok to not like something, and it is a bit forced to want to like it. I will not say I like DMC when I do not.

Nobody's asking you to censor yourself, sharpshooter.

I was addressing people on this thread questioning or being surprised at why people could like or enjoy Devil May Care. I was addressing people who were surprised that some of us are enthusiastic about the book.

It does become strange when a fan has to explain why they are enthusiastic about stuff they are a fan of, no?

I understand the some people here do not like DMC. Fine.
But some of us happen to think, while not flawless, it is a fine, entertaining, legitimately literary slice of Bond.

S'all.

#122 DamnCoffee

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 01:36 PM

I think sharpshooter is just surprised that some people enjoyed the book on the level they have... I haven't read the book myself, but I'd have to agree with him from what I've heard.

#123 Hitch

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 01:49 PM

"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data."

I'm with Holmes.

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#124 DamnCoffee

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 01:55 PM

The masses have spoken, they surely all can't be wrong. I think it is just the vocal minority at it again. :tup:

#125 Johnboy007

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 01:59 PM

Well there's not much of a "silent" majority that looks down on this one. We read it because it was James Bond and it was presumably what kept us at it. In the end it was a pleasant read, but the whole thing is terribly underwhelming.

#126 Hitch

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 02:00 PM

Don't judge a book by its coverage. :tup:

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 03:28 PM

I think that one has to keep in mind that, on a different level, the business of publishing books has come a very long way since the days of Fleming's original novels, just like the art of making films has come since the days of 'Dr. No'. It's most obvious that today many books are published that wouldn't have made the market in the 50's/60's. Likewise films are being produced that nobody would have thought of back in these decades. And books and movies that are on offer today on this modern market are for a large part made in an entirely different manner than 50 years previously. Quite a lot (but of course not all) of this development was deliberately made to give audiences, readers exactly what they want, and nothing else. So basically we get the films, the books, the products we want. Naturally, not all of us, but the vast majority. After all, all producers want to be successfull. And ACE is entirely right when he states that, in terms of this broader view, DMC is a spectacular success. For the original work of Ian Fleming, for lit-Bond, for the frenchise and for the entire fandom.

It sells like hell, reaching large numbers of readers that otherwise might never have learned about lit-Bond. These may now feel intrigued to learn more about 007, read Fleming's books, read the continuations, read Higson and Westbrook. The financial success of DMC gives IFP (whose other enterprises such as Young Bond or Moneypenny Diaries have surpassed many fans highest expectations) an economic perspective that practically guarantees new continuations. Other writers approached by IFP may take on the challenge to surpass DMC. Renown authors may even ask IFP to have a go.

Likewise, the frenchise will doubtlessly see new followers that have become fans because of DMC. New fans will come to forums, bring their fresh views, eager to learn more about the history of this phenomenon that James Bond is. Some of these will write their own fanfic, bring their own casting ideas and so on.

All of this in my book is very good news! Good news thanks to DMC.

Edited by Trident, 07 June 2008 - 03:29 PM.


#128 zencat

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 04:19 PM

Done.

A solid 4/5 for me.

Loved the choice of locations, the details, atmosphere, and how Faulks infused the history and politics of the region into the story (also, THANK YOU whoever suggested that map in the front of the book). Tennis was an awesome choice for the big game. Gorner was a truly despicable villain, and while his death felt a touch anti-climatic, I thought it was a good Bondian death. Chagrin worked as a henchman. Great name. Scarlett was fine
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(shame I had accidentally read in this thread she was 004, because that would have surprised me.)
LOVED the Caspian Sea Monster. I thought the overall shape of the story was excellent; Rome teaser -- Britain -- France -- Persia/Iran (always wanted to see 007 in the Middle East) -- journey across Russia -- climax back in France. I do think Faulks experiment in style worked. It read like a rocket and had some wonderful passages that I re-read several times for the sheer pleasure. I also really liked how Felix was a part of the story without ever interacting with Bond. This was a very unconventional way to use Felix, but brilliant.

Quibbles: Was a little disappointed that Gorner's master plan turned out to be the most familiar of all Bond plots
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-- use stolen nukes and aircraft to provoke war between Britain and Russia.
As I said before, I thought his ambition to flood England with drugs was enough (the drug angle really vanished in the last part of the book, which was too bad because it was so well set up and developed). I could have used more sex, although the bath house scene was very sexy. The existence of "Poppy" was a little distracting as she was so clearly a red-herring. Stylistically, some of the Fleming references were a little ham-fisted. Would Bond really remember a hangover from 1955? I also didn't like when Faulks lifted whole lines from Fleming directly (..."holding his eye open in the shower spray until they smarted"). I understand he's "writing as Ian Fleming", but that's going too far, IMO. Also the continued references to "destiny" were, for some reason, driving me nuts.

But these really are only quibbles. I throughly enjoyed reading this book. Is it a good Sebastian Faulks novel? I don't know. I've never read a Sebastian Faulks novel. But I have read every James Bond continuation novel, more than once, and on that measure, Devil May Care is, IMO, one the very best.

#129 Johnboy007

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 06:22 PM

I kept waiting for some kind of payoff on "destiny", but nothing ever came of it. All of those references are just awkward now.

#130 zencat

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 06:29 PM

It struck me that maybe Faulks original title choice was "Destiny" and the refs where a way to make it work. There was just something very self-conscious about them in a "What a view." -- "To A Kill!" vein.

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 07:17 PM

I could only give it a 3. I do agree with what Zencat said about not being able to return to the original thrill that was to be found as a teenager discovering Bond for the first time (for me it was The Man with the Golden Gun at age 12) but this book just failed to deliver in so many ways. To start with I think that Sebastian Falks was overhyped. He was promoted as the best thing since Dickens - I have never read any of his other works, so he very well may be - and I began the book expecting something fantastic, only to be let down. Yes it was fun to have 007 in the Middle East and trekking through Russia, so top marks for location, but the rest of the novel is just lifted from other Bond books and films. The plot was paper thin, the heroin angle went no where, there was no given reason for Gormer to hate Britain, and the idea of causing war between Britain and another country has already been done. Why was the guy in the first chapter killed? Who was Silver working for? And as for 004....that was hardly a suprise, remember all those story 'leaks' about Cathrine Zeta Jones and Die Another Day. So the biggest gripe that I have is that the plot was so un-original and full of holes.

However, I am pleased that the book is selling so well, and I do like the British cover.

#132 zencat

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 07:23 PM

Yeah, how can Faulks reference the Young Bond gambling scene (which I don't have a problem with, by the way) and yet totally discount/ignore Amis' Colonel Sun. According to Faulks' Devil May Care, we're meant to believe that it is the direct sequel to The Man With The Golden Gun and that Colonel Sun doesn't exist, which is incorrect.

Because in the timeline, Colonel Sun hasn't happened yet. DMC in 67. CS is 68.

I thought it was great, for the first 100 pages or so. Now I'm struggling to finish it and wondering if I should read something else, unfortunately.

I'm curious, have you read any of the other Bond novels (Fleming or continuation)? If so, did you ever have this experience with any of them? Which ones? Where they any that you couldn't put down?

Funny how page 100 seems to be the abort point for many. This is the point were Bond goes to Persia. For me, it just got better, because I find Iran in the 60s a fascinating location and a breath of fresh air as we've seen it in a Bond novel. But could it be the unfamiliarity about this region and the politics of a day a turn off for some?

#133 Single-O-Seven

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 09:06 PM

For all the complaining about DMC, I enjoyed it. It wasn't the greatest, and it had its problems, but if you erase whatever unrealistic expectations you may have had about Faulks delivering something as good as Fleming and take it for what it is, it's certainly a decent continuation novel. I, too, had very high hopes given my limited familiarity with Faulks, but as I read it I realised a few things. For one, it was impossible for Faulks - or any author for that matter - to deliver something we'd all agree was equal to Fleming. Why? Because he's not Fleming. While rereading Casino Royale and Live and Let Die over the last couple of days I realised that if these - or any of Fleming's books - had not been written by Fleming, and instead had appeared as continuation novels by Faulks, or anybody else, they'd receive as much criticism as DMC has. Imagine if Fleming had stopped at OHMSS, and Faulks had written YOLT - do you think anybody would accept YOLT as Fleming-esque if somebody else's name had been on the cover?

It's true that a lot of the self-referential Bondisms and name dropping were heavily pastiche, but something tells me this wasn't entirely Faulks' fault or even his decision. I suspect IFP may have asked for it, not only to connect the book directly with Fleming's, but also to imbed a degree of marketing. New readers attracted to DMC and unfamiliar with Fleming's books may, thanks to to DMC, now be curious to go back and explore Bond's history as written by Fleming. For example, the idea of Leiter losing his limbs to a hammerhead might interest more than a few people to snatch up LALD for the first time. If that's the case then I can easily overlook those gaudy moments if only to take pleasure in the knowledge that somebody else is now reading Fleming for the first time.

Where Faulks did strike a lot of the right chords began with Bond's arrival in Tehran. The travelouge and the fresh, exotic location were high marks which Faulks pulled off superbly. Also, the underwater swim into the hangar was exciting and well-written, and could have been pulled from the pages of LALD or TB. Bond's contact and hired driver in this sequence also had the feel of some of Fleming's best-rounded characters. The bath-house scene felt like something Fleming hiself would have experienced and happily written about - if not in Bond, then in Thrilling Cities.

The villain was a bit of a let-down, and his plot got too grand for its own good. Like many others have stated, I think the heroin angle would have been good enough without the inclusion of the nuclear war angle tacked on. The Ekranoplan was so well set-up and interesting it's a shame it was so wasted. I had high hopes for something exciting coming out of this plane, but it never happened. I also found the book dragged at the end while Bond and Scarlett made their way through the Soviet Union. Seeing Bond reduced to petty armed robberies - though an interesting character twist - almost seemed silly to me. I guess I just expected Bond to come up with some more clever way of making his escape.

Whatever my complaints, I read the book in two days, and that's because I found it to mostly be good fun. The pacing and much of the action were well-done, and I liked the villain's death. Though not my favourite continuation novel so far, I'm still glad we have it, and that it returned Bond to his literary roots and time.

#134 K1Bond007

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 09:49 PM

Imagine if Fleming had stopped at OHMSS, and Faulks had written YOLT - do you think anybody would accept YOLT as Fleming-esque if somebody else's name had been on the cover?


Haha. Everyone would have a huge :tup: about the Obit, "the author" bit, and the fact that Bond had offspring, and if it was written today people would say he was ripping off Ludlum's Bourne trilogy.

You're right about that. Plus, I always thought the climax was rather weak so I can imagine people complaining about that and the huge coincidence of him finding Blofeld. All is forgiven because it's Fleming though.

#135 Kilroy6644

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 10:33 PM

I just finished it, and I have to say I'm unimpressed. It's not that it was bad, it's just that it wasn't as good as I had hoped. This wasn't supposed to be just another continuation novel; this was the Centenary Novel, and it was supposed to be the best thing since Fleming, but it wasn't even close. Maybe if I read it again in a few years I'll be more receptive, but right now I'm feeling pretty let down.

#136 zencat

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 10:55 PM

This wasn't supposed to be just another continuation novel; this was the Centenary Novel, and it was supposed to be the best thing since Fleming...

Really? Who promised that?

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 11:13 PM

This wasn't supposed to be just another continuation novel; this was the Centenary Novel, and it was supposed to be the best thing since Fleming...

Really? Who promised that?


I don't think anyone promised it, as such, but then again Faulks did get the unique and hypetastic "Writing as Ian Fleming" credit, while DEVIL MAY CARE was promoted to smithereens (e.g. the ad in Piccadilly, and on the morning of its release posters on the streets of London for the Evening Standard screamed "NEW JAMES BOND NOVEL - FIRST REVIEW", as though it was one of the day's major world events.... such a massive amount of fuss over, of all things, a flippin' James Bond continuation novel was quite unheard of). Also, the involvement of Faulks was in itself hugely promising.

Is it a good Sebastian Faulks novel? I don't know.


No. In fact, it beggars belief that it was even written by Faulks (and, yes, I know that the whole idea was for him to mimic Fleming - not, mind you, that I think he does that successfully, either).

I've never read a Sebastian Faulks novel.


If you read his other novels, you may realise why those of us who championed him and looked forward to DMC on the basis of his authorship alone may feel so disappointed. I was probably the biggest Faulks cheerleader on CBn. I still maintain that he's a phenomenal novelist. However, I must say that I got it badly wrong in my assumption that DMC would be amazing just because he was writing it. Frankly, I don't even think it's more than - at best - mediocre.

But I have read every James Bond continuation novel, more than once


There are many I haven't read, but I'd rank DMC below most of those I have read, including the last adult Bond novel to come before it, THE MAN WITH THE RED TATTOO.

I enjoyed the experience of seeing Faulks and Tuuli Shipster at Waterstones in Piccadilly on launch day in the company of other enthusiastic CBners, and the general sense of a momentous occasion in Bondage. Nothing comparable since the release of CASINO ROYALE, and I certainly never thought that such events would ever surround a continuation novel! Unlike CR, though, DMC did not, sadly, live up to the hype or expectations. IMO, anyway. :tup:

#138 zencat

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 11:36 PM

The DAY certainly lived up to expectations, didn't it? It was blast meeting you, Loomis. Sorry we didn't get the chance to spend more time together. Next time. :tup:

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 11:41 PM

Well, regardless, the The DAY certainly lived up to expectations, didn't it? It was blast meeting you, Loomis. Sorry we didn't get the chance to spend more time together. Next time. :tup:


Oh, yeah, the DAY was terrific, and it was great to meet you, too, zen (as well as Bryce and Miss West, and to catch up again with ACE, The Admiral, Greg and stromberg). :( No argument there. And, like I say, it was good to have 007 take over London again.

But the book itself.... *sigh* I guess for the moment I'm having to deal with the "Disappointed Faulks Fan" side of me. Perhaps the Bond fan in me will grow to make peace with DMC. You know how "they" say "It might play better on DVD"? Well, maybe DMC'll read better in paperback. :tup:

#140 Mister E

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 11:46 PM

This wasn't supposed to be just another continuation novel; this was the Centenary Novel, and it was supposed to be the best thing since Fleming, but it wasn't even close.


I didn't read the novel but it sounds like you set your hopes way too high, you bought into the hype.

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Posted 08 June 2008 - 12:56 AM

This wasn't supposed to be just another continuation novel; this was the Centenary Novel, and it was supposed to be the best thing since Fleming...

Really? Who promised that?

Nobody promised it, but it was expected. Why bother with the publicity if it wasn't supposed to be a cut above the rest? There were many things that could've been done (and were done) to commemorate Ian Fleming's 100th birthday, but the one they chose to put the spotlight on was the release of a book that was neither about Fleming, nor written by him. There was no connection to Fleming other than through the characters that he created. To me, anyway, it seems a rather risky move. I wouldn't think they'd bother with that much publicity unless they had something rock-solid. Between that, and Faulks' reputation, I don't think it was unreasonable to have high expectations, even if nobody came right out and promised it would be great.

I didn't read the novel but it sounds like you set your hopes way too high, you bought into the hype.

Indeed I did. I certainly don't regret reading it, but I wish I'd waited for the paperback.

#142 sharpshooter

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Posted 08 June 2008 - 02:21 AM

LOVED the Caspian Sea Monster.

Same. It is one of the most exotic Bond vehicles ever to feature on print or screen. I love that sequence with it a little more now after seeing that picture of it.

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I was pleasantly surprised with the sequence where Bond puts on a belaclava and goes about thieving money to get across the Iron Curtain. Certainly something I can see Craig's Bond doing.


I will give DMC a chance. I'm re-reading the last half, the section I was unsure of. I think I'm slowly getting to like it a bit more. I think it helps that I am fresh starting at half way, not exhausted as I was before starting from the beginning.

#143 Double-Oh Agent

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Posted 08 June 2008 - 10:06 AM

Yeah, how can Faulks reference the Young Bond gambling scene (which I don't have a problem with, by the way) and yet totally discount/ignore Amis' Colonel Sun. According to Faulks' Devil May Care, we're meant to believe that it is the direct sequel to The Man With The Golden Gun and that Colonel Sun doesn't exist, which is incorrect.

Because in the timeline, Colonel Sun hasn't happened yet. DMC in 67. CS is 68.

I thought it was great, for the first 100 pages or so. Now I'm struggling to finish it and wondering if I should read something else, unfortunately.

I'm curious, have you read any of the other Bond novels (Fleming or continuation)? If so, did you ever have this experience with any of them? Which ones? Where they any that you couldn't put down?

Funny how page 100 seems to be the abort point for many. This is the point were Bond goes to Persia. For me, it just got better, because I find Iran in the 60s a fascinating location and a breath of fresh air as we've seen it in a Bond novel. But could it be the unfamiliarity about this region and the politics of a day a turn off for some?

Sorry, but you're wrong, zencat. Colonel Sun took place in September 1965 NOT 1968. On page one of Amis' novel, it states that Scaramanga's bullet tore through Bond's abdomen "last summer" which itself occurred in 1964.

As for my mindset going into Devil May Care, I didn't have any expectations other than just having an eager anticipation of reading a new Bond novel. Never having read Sebastian Faulks before (much less heard about him before), I had nothing to go on with him other than the press releases and some enthusiastic remarks by CBners so I didn't too excited about the possibilities although I did think the expectations were probably too high.

However, I was enjoying DMC up until the last 50 pages where its failure to satisfactorily tie up the loose ends forced me to lower my score for the novel from a 4 to a 3. I do agree with you zencat that Bond going to the Middle East was a really good move by Faulks and was well done, particularly the bath house scene, which you mentioned. And top marks come from me as well for the map which really did help me understand where all the locations were and helped to validate/strengthen the plot involving the Ekranoplan.

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Posted 08 June 2008 - 10:54 AM

I thought it was great, for the first 100 pages or so. Now I'm struggling to finish it and wondering if I should read something else, unfortunately.

I'm curious, have you read any of the other Bond novels (Fleming or continuation)? If so, did you ever have this experience with any of them? Which ones? Where they any that you couldn't put down?


I've read most of the Flemings and some of the early Gardners. I enjoyed them all with the exception of TMWTGG, which I still didn't struggle with. I had difficulty putting down Live and Let Die and Licence Renewed. Ionically I had difficulty putting down DMC at first. I also read one Benson, I think it was Doubleshot, and I couldn't even finish it, but I was about 14

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Posted 08 June 2008 - 01:38 PM

Sorry, but you're wrong, zencat. Colonel Sun took place in September 1965 NOT 1968. On page one of Amis' novel, it states that Scaramanga's bullet tore through Bond's abdomen "last summer" which itself occurred in 1964.

Oh, whoops. Thanks, Double-Oh Agent. I stand corrected. I was just going by release date.

Then the answer to your question is CS, like Gardner and Benson, probably doesn't exist anymore as a part of the official timeline. Young Bond to Feming to Faulks. That's the new world order. Or Faulks just didn't feel the need or find the opportunity to reference it.

#146 Loomis

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Posted 08 June 2008 - 02:59 PM

Funny how page 100 seems to be the abort point for many. This is the point were Bond goes to Persia. For me, it just got better, because I find Iran in the 60s a fascinating location and a breath of fresh air as we've seen it in a Bond novel. But could it be the unfamiliarity about this region and the politics of a day a turn off for some?


For me, it was a turn-on - I've actually always wanted Bond to go to somewhere like Iran, and I certainly enjoy a bit of politics.

However, I didn't feel that Faulks wrote about Iran in a way that brought it to life, which was a big disappointment to me after the vivid travelogue in his 1992 novel A FOOL'S ALPHABET.

DEVIL MAY CARE doesn't read as though Faulks went to Iran. "But it would have been too dangerous for him to go!" may be the obvious reply, but I do think Faulks could have gone had he wanted to (although perhaps he has a strongly held moral objection to visiting that country because of the regime in power, which would be fair enough). I know of ordinary English folk who've been recently - granted, not many, and, sure, it took a fair bit of organising.... but it can be done. Faulks would have been safe, and - as a famous novelist who did not intend to make Iranians the chief villains and who intended to show some respect for Iranian culture - he would probably have even been welcomed.

Here's Bond arriving in Iran in DMC:

As soon as he stepped from the plane, Bond felt the intense heat of the desert country. There was no air-conditioning inside the arrivals building, and he was already sweating by the time the customs official had chalked his bags. When going through US Customs, he used a British diplomatic passport, number 0094567, but always hated the thought of his name being flashed to and from CIA headquarters in Langley for clearance. Any wisp of evidence that he was present - even that he existed - diminished his security. In Tehran, the passport he showed to the earnest, moustachioed official in the glass booth identified him as David Somerset, company director. It was an alias Darko Kerim had given him in Istanbul, and he used it in memory of Darko, the loyal friend who'd died in helping him escape from SMERSH.

Outside the building, after he had swapped some currency, Bond stepped into a taxi and gave the driver the address of his uptown hotel. The entrance to Tehran was drab. There were factories pouring black smoke, featureless rectangular skyscrapers, cuboid houses, broad tarmacked roads with trees along the edge - little to distinguish it from any modern city if you discounted the odd piles of lemons on the roadside.

They went past Tehran University on Shah Reza Avenue, into Ferdowski Square where the famous poet, cast in bronze, pointed upwards to the sky as he declaimed his verses, then turned left and started to head north towards the more affluent end of town. From this point there were fewer livestock lorries, painted garishly in lime or sapphire, and not so many cars with family possessions strapped to the roof. It was as though at this latitude the city had taken a grip on itself in its desire to be more Western.

Bond offered the driver a cigarette, which, after two or three refusals that Bond could tell were half-hearted, was gratefully accepted. The man tried to engage him in conversation about football - 'Bobby Moore, Bobby Charlton' seemed to be the only English words he knew - but Bond was thinking of one name only: Julius Gorner.


Now, then, what's wrong with the above? Well, not much, really, except that it's a bit flat and flavourless. It's proficient, workmanlike prose, lacking passion, atmosphere and a sense of authenticity - it's little more than no-frills reportage, meat-and-potatoes fare of the kind you'd expect of a novelization. For me, this is true of DMC more or less throughout.

The real problem, though, is that Faulks has elsewhere - and quite without meaning to (!) - written about an exotic location in a much more vivid and considerably more Flemingian voice. Consider the following:

James Bond was the only passenger to leave the plane when it stopped at Colombo on its way from Hong Kong to the Middle East. Hong Kong to Colombo is a strange trip to make. A few Chinese businessmen might reluctantly leave the Crown colony and inspect some business project in up-country Sri Lanka to see if it is worth the investment of a few million dollars. Or some unusually adventurous Sinhalese businessman might be returning after an attempt to raise capital in Hong Kong for a scheme in his native island. But these things are rare, and when Bond came down the steps of the Boeing 747, there was only him to feel the heavy night air that blew in from the palm trees round the airport.

It was a luxurious sensation. He was the only man to offer a passport to the smiling immigration clerk, the only man to see his suitcases carried in by the equally smiling porter. There was none of the usual feeling of displacement. There was hardly anyone there at all.

Bond wondered how the thin porter could carry his heavy cases outside to the taxi and tipped him an inordinate amount which in Hong Kong might have passed for normal but which in Colombo seemed to render the porter speechless. Soon the taxi driver was telling him how the Sri Lankan cricket team was as good as any in the world. He drove a Morris Oxford in high gear in the middle of the road, turning round frequently to emphasise his claims for the skill of Gehan Mendis or Ravi Ratnayake. He used the horn to move the night-time bicyclists and bullock carts, but never touched the brakes. His style of driving, one-geared, one-paced, was like that of a New York cab driver on Fifth Avenue when he gets a good run of lights late at night, though his conversation, not being a paranoid creole from behind bulletproof glass, was more enjoyable.

The night was exotically warm. The air was soft, though occasionally there would come a blast like that from an air extractor in the kitchen of an Indian restaurant. Bond lay back against the seat, unable to help out further on the problem of the island's shortage of quick bowlers. He watched the palm trees and wooden roadside shacks trail out behind them.


The above is taken from A FOOL'S ALPHABET. Obviously, I've changed the character's name to "James Bond", but otherwise I've made no changes.

For my money, this A FOOL'S ALPHABET extract is way more Flemingian than the DMC extract. It's vivid, it's man-of-the-world, and it's occasionally borderline.... well, non-PC, shall we say? Note in particular the last sentence of the third paragraph. It's all very Fleming indeed, in all sorts of ways, right down to a description of someone's driving style, and the "It was a luxurious sensation" observation.

Not only does Faulks disappoint when it comes to travelogue and the element of the bazaar, but he also falls short in terms of Fleming's famous Element of the Bizarre™ - "bazaar", "bizarre", geddit? Sorry. :tup: Gorner's hand comes across as more comical than anything else, and merely begs the question of why someone so wealthy can't just get some expensive surgery or, y'know, at least shave the darn hair off! Faulks does come up with a few bits of good, chilling dialogue, e.g. the following Gorner/Bond exchange:

'Who are these women?'

'They're no one. They're prostitutes. Most are addicts. They get scooped up along with the men. When they're losing their allure, say after two or three days, I let the men have their way with them.'

'You what?'

'The guards lead them down on to the factory floor and the men take them outside. It's free entertainment and it's good for morale.'

'And what do you do with the girls afterwards?'

Gorner looked at Bond curiously. 'Why, bury them, of course.'


Sadly, though, DMC works only in fits and starts, handicapped by a tone that wobbles between the jokey (see the much-discussed Bond/May/Moneypenny/M extract) and the gritty, as well as by a by-the-numbers plot that seethes with missed opportunites.

Such as? Well, at one point Bond finds himself obliged to smoke opium, but nothing comes of this experience. Also, during the Russian scenes, it might have been nice to see 007 using his KGB training (between the events of YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE and THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN) against his former masters on their own turf - nothing major, but maybe just a little touch along the lines of "Thanks to Bond's brainwashing at the hands of the KGB, he knew that the Moscow police never carried spare ammunition". Something like that, perhaps. A fanboyish gripe? Maybe, but instead of mostly just namedropping Fleming characters, how about a little more creativity in tying DMC to the Fleming novels? At least to the degree of reflecting the key events of the books DMC is supposed to be a sequel to.

Characterisation in DMC is A Mixed Bag™. Gorner is actually a pretty interesting fellow, although by no means developed to his full potential. Scarlett is pure cardboard. As for Bond, well, moving on swiftly....

I liked the use of Leiter, although it seems that Faulks was unable to resist turning him into J.W. Pepper ("And just where the hell is Tehran?" exclaims Felix at one point), and it's lovely to see Mathis fleshed out a bit.... although what can one say about a Bond novel in which Mathis seems to have an even more active love life than our hero?!?!?!?!

The action scenes are uninspired and dull, and 007 never seems in much danger. The plot? Meh. There are some nice political/historical undercurrents, but they're never prominent enough to make the book particularly interesting.

DEVIL MAY CARE has its moments - a few. And it may improve on second reading (and without the weight of skyscrapingly high - albeit, on the face of it, fully justified - expectations). For now, though, my verdict is: a huge disappointment.

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Posted 08 June 2008 - 04:15 PM

Funny how page 100 seems to be the abort point for many. This is the point were Bond goes to Persia. For me, it just got better, because I find Iran in the 60s a fascinating location and a breath of fresh air as we've seen it in a Bond novel. But could it be the unfamiliarity about this region and the politics of a day a turn off for some?


Nope. I don't think thats it.

I liked the stuff in Tehran. I loved the mixed hammam (I could have done more with that kind of louche sexiness).
But, once I got to the Ekranoplan I had the oddest feeling.... Bond had just been knocked unconcious and was being taken to Gorner's desert lair - but I wasn't particularly bothered.

I can't really put my finger on why I was so disengaged with the last two thirds of the book. I think its just that this is the point at which the cracks in the plot begin to show. The "Risico meets Moonraker" story just isn't interesting.

As a tribute to Fleming, I think DMC is fine. It does the job. Its not a bad book at all. Quite enjoyable in fact.
But if someone were to buy it expecting an engaging, tension filled thriller they're going to be disappointed. I dont think someone new to Bond literature will enjoy this enough to want to go back to Fleming.

Edited by Scrambled Eggs, 08 June 2008 - 04:18 PM.


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Posted 08 June 2008 - 10:14 PM

Sorry, but you're wrong, zencat. Colonel Sun took place in September 1965 NOT 1968. On page one of Amis' novel, it states that Scaramanga's bullet tore through Bond's abdomen "last summer" which itself occurred in 1964.

Oh, whoops. Thanks, Double-Oh Agent. I stand corrected. I was just going by release date.

Then the answer to your question is CS, like Gardner and Benson, probably doesn't exist anymore as a part of the official timeline. Young Bond to Feming to Faulks. That's the new world order. Or Faulks just didn't feel the need or find the opportunity to reference it.

Personally, being one who thinks all the continuations are in the official timeline, I prefer to go with the idea that Faulks simply failed to reference Colonel Sun.

By the way zencat, just so you know that you're not alone, I too tend to like all things James Bond (books and films), although in this case you enjoyed Devil May Care a little more than me.

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Posted 09 June 2008 - 12:13 AM

By the way zencat, just so you know that you're not alone, I too tend to like all things James Bond (books and films), although in this case you enjoyed Devil May Care a little more than me.

Most visitors to CBn tend to like all things James Bond. :tup:

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Posted 09 June 2008 - 04:18 AM

I'm roughly halfway through the novel, and I have to say that I'm very much torn over what I think of it so far. One one hand, there are some very entertaining passages
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, and the use of the Middle East (more specifically, Iran) as a location is something that has been long overdue in the Bond novels and films, as Bond has gone to virtually ever other location on the globe over the course of the books and the films, but has somehow not spent much time in the Middle East, so that was a welcome addition to the list of locations Bond has spent time in.

But, I have to say, that my main complaint with the novel is that it just doesn't seem like the successor to Ian Fleming's storyline. I would have thought that, after the events of Fleming's The Man With The Golden Gun (to which DMC is supposed to be a follow-up, if I'm not mistaken), Bond would still be quite bitter over what had happened to him in that novel. If I remember correctly, he swore revenge against those who brainwashed him after the events of YOLT, in a similar fashion to swearing revenge against SMERSH after Casino Royale. I would have liked to have seen Bond keep that kind of an edge going into this novel, but the Bond character, at least to me, seems a bit too laid back and relaxed. There was one review that I read somewhere that hit the nail right on the head when he said that one could easily see this Bond novel turned into a Roger Moore film, which I think is very true. Not to take anything away from Roger Moore's turn in the role (which was great, IMO), but that's not the type of tone that should have been struck with this novel.

I don't know, perhaps things change in the second half of the novel, and I will admit that after Bond's arrival in Tehran, things do appear to be picking up and becoming more interesting, but there is something missing from the Bond character, and the plot would have been much more interesting had it been more closely linked to the events of You Only Live Twice and The Man With the Golden Gun.


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