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[Zorin Industries]

Listen, go look at Dr No, From Russia With Love and Goldfinger and you'll see Machismo Sean wearing lipstick, eyeliner and taning solutions. Let's not forget the hair piece. All in the name of tinsletown!

So, you old codgers, leave Daniel alone!



Now, where's Zorin? We need the tag-team of Zorin and dee-bee getting their heads in on the act.

As per, some people are missing the point of what was said before. No-one is suggesting that Daniel Craig's Bond would be gay. I just believe that the new direction and cultural and sexual climate facilitates a notion that James Bond the spy could toy with a man for information. I don't mean he is going to go down on him and let the Golden Gun meet the GoldenEye by any stretch, just that Daniel Craig as 007 allows the character to do that. Craig's Bond is not Connery when it comes to the character being a bit 1950's over, say, nudity. Craig's Bond in that torture scene had no qualms about another male character seeing him butt nekked. Granted, the narrative doesn't allow Bond much choice (he is captured and tied up, after all), but how many other scenes have we scene Bond naked with another man in a confined space (and TIGER TANAKA's hot tub doesn't count as they were both surrounded by female lovelies). I'm not suggesting an alternative reading to ROYALE's torture scene, just suggesting that this screen Bond is a step towards a different sort of on-screen masculinity - and not just in the confines of the Bond series.

The Next Bond should be a Wheelchairbound Black Deaf-Mute Muslim Lesbian. That would cover a few of the bases!

Gay culture in cinema is not about covering bases. Not when you realise just how and why the entertainment business and cinema has been built on the shoulders of such supposed 'minorities' who need their boxes ticked.

[dodge]

Nah, I suspect it isn't "utter tosh". I imagine that Craig is made up more than a Miss America contestant, and that the same goes for - well, pretty much all film stars, male and female, who are about to go before the camera. Fairly standard procedure for many decades, I'd have thought.

It's funny, though: some of the more longstanding CBners will remember that, in the pre-Craig era, Brosnan was often slammed as "metrosexual".... but Craig now makes him look like a caveman!

Brilliant. And right on the money. If not the Moneypenny.

[dodge]

Listen, go look at Dr No, From Russia With Love and Goldfinger and you'll see Machismo Sean wearing lipstick, eyeliner and taning solutions. Let's not forget the hair piece. All in the name of tinsletown!

So, you old codgers, leave Daniel alone!



Now, where's Zorin? We need the tag-team of Zorin and dee-bee getting their heads in on the act.

As per, some people are missing the point of what was said before. No-one is suggesting that Daniel Craig's Bond would be gay. I just believe that the new direction and cultural and sexual climate facilitates a notion that James Bond the spy could toy with a man for information. I don't mean he is going to go down on him and let the Golden Gun meet the GoldenEye by any stretch, just that Daniel Craig as 007 allows the character to do that. Craig's Bond is not Connery when it comes to the character being a bit 1950's over, say, nudity. Craig's Bond in that torture scene had no qualms about another male character seeing him butt nekked. Granted, the narrative doesn't allow Bond much choice (he is captured and tied up, after all), but how many other scenes have we scene Bond naked with another man in a confined space (and TIGER TANAKA's hot tub doesn't count as they were both surrounded by female lovelies). I'm not suggesting an alternative reading to ROYALE's torture scene, just suggesting that this screen Bond is a step towards a different sort of on-screen masculinity - and not just in the confines of the Bond series.

The Next Bond should be a Wheelchairbound Black Deaf-Mute Muslim Lesbian. That would cover a few of the bases!

Gay culture in cinema is not about covering bases. Not when you realise just how and why the entertainment business and cinema has been built on the shoulders of such supposed 'minorities' who need their boxes ticked.

Well said, Zorin. Once again, we are like Kirk Douglas and Burt Lancaster with our backs to the wagons together. (By the way, are you Kirk or am I?) Dan indeed speaks to New Men of all persuasions, not just some mythical New Man. Let all join together in our praise of CraigBond--both the Big Tam macho dudes who'd shoot a pedicurist--suspecting a blazing perversion--and those of us who are secure...and love cucumbers on our eyes while we sleep, dreaming Bond dreams. (My new girl insists on pouring pumpkin seeds in my navel at night, claiming they drain bad vibrations. Oh, well!)

[Safari Suit]

let the Golden Gun meet the GoldenEye

You think you've heard them all but...

[HildebrandRarity]

(My new girl insists on pouring pumpkin seeds in my navel at night, claiming they drain bad vibrations. Oh, well!)

That's a variation. I've always tried to pour wine or another alcoholic beverage into a new girl's navel while they were lying back and then drink out of it. Drives them into their own brand of vibration!

CraigBond should try it. You hear that Eon? A brand new idea courtesy of CBn and HildebrandRarity.