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#61 HildebrandRarity

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 02:22 PM

Relax, Jim 'ole buddy.

#62 Jim

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 02:23 PM

Relax, Jim 'ole buddy.

I am not your hole buddy. You leave my hole alone.

I think that's in keeping with the spirit of this thread. I may be wrong.

#63 HildebrandRarity

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 02:27 PM

Don't worry. I'll be gentle. :tup: Now, where's my Wet Platinum?

#64 Jim

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 02:28 PM

Don't worry. I'll be gentle. :tup: Now, where's my Wet Platinum?


Any references to Steely Dan will be viewed with suspicion from now on.

Stop flirting. I can't afford you.

#65 HildebrandRarity

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 02:30 PM

Don't worry. I'll be gentle. :tup: Now, where's my Wet Platinum?


Any references to Steely Dan will be viewed with suspicion from now on.

Stop flirting. I can't afford you.


Fine. Now, can I buy you an ice cream?

#66 dee-bee-five

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 03:40 PM

Don't worry. I'll be gentle. :tup: Now, where's my Wet Platinum?


Any references to Steely Dan will be viewed with suspicion from now on.

Stop flirting. I can't afford you.


I'm a cheap date, Jim. The equivalent of an all-you-can-eat-for-a-fiver buffet down Charing Cross Road.

#67 Jim

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 03:57 PM

Don't worry. I'll be gentle. :tup: Now, where's my Wet Platinum?


Any references to Steely Dan will be viewed with suspicion from now on.

Stop flirting. I can't afford you.


I'm a cheap date, Jim. The equivalent of an all-you-can-eat-for-a-fiver buffet down Charing Cross Road.


Ah, rebirthed, long-suppressed memories of men paying me a fiver and trying to eat it all.

#68 dodge

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 04:42 PM

Shocking, positively shocking, to see where my innocent musing has headed. Can't we have one or two more replies to question #2, at least, before the thread gets 86'd?!

#69 Santa

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 04:48 PM

I'm starting to quite enjoy this thread.

#70 HildebrandRarity

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 04:50 PM

2) Is there any chance on earth that CraigBond could/would do a Jackal-style gay seduction?


There is more than a 'chance' that he could and would but the probabilities are that he won't.

I'm starting to quite enjoy this thread.


There's nothing like the thought of big, hot man meat to get the 'ole juices flowing, eh?

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 04:51 PM

2) Is there any chance on earth that CraigBond could/would do a Jackal-style gay seduction?

No.

#72 dee-bee-five

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 05:19 PM

2) Is there any chance on earth that CraigBond could/would do a Jackal-style gay seduction?


We can but hope :tup: . Given that whatever he does is down to the whims of writers, there is always a chance. How big a chance is the question, though.


3) Has the series' tone on the subject been growing more realistic?



Only in the sense that depiction of gay characters/themes has become more realistic and mainstream in the media generally. So I guess we'll never see the likes of Wint and Kidd again. Personally, I feel that's a negative gain. It would be a mistake to assume Wint and Kidd are offensive. I happen to find them amusing.

There's nothing like the thought of big, hot man meat to get the 'ole juices flowing, eh?


You took the very words - or something - out of my mouth...

Ah, rebirthed, long-suppressed memories of men paying me a fiver and trying to eat it all.


Alas, not just memories for me. These days, I even have to supply change for a fiver.

#73 HildebrandRarity

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Posted 18 April 2008 - 01:39 AM

There's nothing like the thought of big, hot man meat to get the 'ole juices flowing, eh?


You took the very words - or something - out of my mouth...


Man meat. Mouth. We know where you head is at... :tup:

Ergggh...that felt like a P+W, Brosnan-era moment.

Sorry folks. A tad tired.

#74 Jim

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Posted 18 April 2008 - 06:44 AM

Ah, rebirthed, long-suppressed memories of men paying me a fiver and trying to eat it all.


Alas, not just memories for me. These days, I even have to supply change for a fiver.


I think we've met.

#75 dee-bee-five

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Posted 18 April 2008 - 12:43 PM

Ah, rebirthed, long-suppressed memories of men paying me a fiver and trying to eat it all.


Alas, not just memories for me. These days, I even have to supply change for a fiver.


I think we've met.


Ah, yes, I remember it well...

#76 dodge

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Posted 18 April 2008 - 06:04 PM

Attempting, desperately, to get back on topic...I do believe it would be possible and even cool to have CraigBond set up a rendezvous and come close to a Jackal-style clinch scene...then turn the intended tryst into one of the all-time top brawls.

To paraphrase, and improve upon, Shaw: Some dream of things that haven't been and say, 'Aw, dude, we can't go there!'. I dream of things that ought to be and say, 'Wouldn't that be friggin' awesome?'

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Posted 18 April 2008 - 06:44 PM

This just in, for amplification and edification:

Source: http://www.celebrity...N...7Z&rss=true

Celebrity News

Daniel Craig's beauty regime

Thursday, 17 April 2008

CELEBRITY SPOTLIGHT - Daniel Craig had a lorry load of fake tan and moisturiser delivered to the set of the new James Bond movie.

The 40-year-old actor is determined to look his best when he reprises his role as the suave British spy in 'Quantum of Solace' so has stocked up on beauty products.

A source said: "Daniel is the first meterosexual Bond and more than any other 007 he is attractive to both men and women. He knows he has to capitalise on his unisex appeal and had a lorry load of cosmetics delivered to his trailer.

"As well as fake tan, bronzer, eye cream, cleanser, toner and moisturiser, Daniel has been having regular manicures."

Daniel - who sent pulses racing when he donned a pair of tight blue swimming trunks in his first Bond movie 'Casino Royale' - has also employed several screen tricks to give him a more youthful complexion and toned appearance.

The insider added to Britain's Daily Mirror newspaper: "He regularly uses the gym on set but to maximise results, baby oil is a well-known trick to increase muscle definition.

"He uses eyedrops to make the whites of his eyes appear brighter and has been told to splash his face with ice-cold water before filming to close the pores and make him look younger

#78 DamnCoffee

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Posted 18 April 2008 - 06:46 PM

What in the [censored]!!! Utter tosh! :tup:

#79 dodge

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Posted 18 April 2008 - 07:05 PM

What in the [censored]!!! Utter tosh! :tup:


Which part specifically do you feel is...tosh? Baby oil, facials, manicures...these are all part of the MO's of solid modern meteros. Where's the harm, really?

#80 triviachamp

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Posted 18 April 2008 - 11:32 PM

The Next Bond should be a Wheelchairbound Black Deaf-Mute Muslim Lesbian. That would cover a few of the bases!

#81 DamnCoffee

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Posted 19 April 2008 - 08:49 AM

I dont know whether to 'lol' or to be shocked by that comment! :tup:

#82 Loomis

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Posted 19 April 2008 - 12:37 PM

Nah, I suspect it isn't "utter tosh". I imagine that Craig is made up more than a Miss America contestant, and that the same goes for - well, pretty much all film stars, male and female, who are about to go before the camera. Fairly standard procedure for many decades, I'd have thought.

It's funny, though: some of the more longstanding CBners will remember that, in the pre-Craig era, Brosnan was often slammed as "metrosexual".... but Craig now makes him look like a caveman!

#83 HildebrandRarity

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Posted 19 April 2008 - 11:04 PM

Listen, go look at Dr No, From Russia With Love and Goldfinger and you'll see Machismo Sean wearing lipstick, eyeliner and taning solutions. Let's not forget the hair piece. All in the name of tinsletown!

So, you old codgers, leave Daniel alone!

:tup:

Now, where's Zorin? :tup: We need the tag-team of Zorin and dee-bee getting their heads in on the act. :(

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 04:11 AM

i don't want to see a gay bond let someone start up another franchise.
i think its just Daniel Craig trying to introduce something different after all he is a actor who wants to play every type of character, why Bond who knows probably just to shake things up a bit. To me Bond should always be after the women its ok for a villian to swing both ways. but Bond is fine the way he has always been. I like the way the movies are going but if they go too far with these ideas they mey lose viewers and that means bums on seats.

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 09:40 AM

Listen, go look at Dr No, From Russia With Love and Goldfinger and you'll see Machismo Sean wearing lipstick, eyeliner and taning solutions. Let's not forget the hair piece. All in the name of tinsletown!

So, you old codgers, leave Daniel alone!

:tup:


Yep, we've got CraigBond with his obsessive compulsive quest to remove every single last hair on his body, but we've also got ConneryBond often looking like a drag queen who's neglected to remove all his warpaint before going home to his wife.

#86 Jim

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 10:11 AM

... and that means bums on seats.


Fnarr.

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 10:23 AM

Don't worry. I'll be gentle. :tup: Now, where's my Wet Platinum?


Any references to Steely Dan will be viewed with suspicion from now on.

Stop flirting. I can't afford you.


I'm a cheap date, Jim. The equivalent of an all-you-can-eat-for-a-fiver buffet down Charing Cross Road.


LOL. I'm on rebound if anyones interested :tup:

#88 honeyjes

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 11:21 AM

Having read all these pages, and other similar topics it's becoming quite clear that, some posters are getting quite het up over the character James Bond. As far as memory serves Daniel Craig has never said he wants to do a gay scene as Bond, his comments were made in relation to doing nude scences, which has evolved into wanting to become a gay bond. I'm sure as in the past if a gay character(s)were presented in future Bond Movies the interaction with Bond would be befitting the storyline.

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Posted 22 April 2008 - 08:21 PM

2) Is there any chance on earth that CraigBond could/would do a Jackal-style gay seduction?

First of all, I think we can all agree on that Bond is and will continue to be an icon of masculinity. It is often said that men want to be Bond and women want to be with Bond. The appeal of Bond to men has to do with the freedom he has. Sure, he has a job and a mission to achieve, but that doesn't stop him (actually, it encourages him) from bedding beautiful women, traveling around the world and killing people he doesn't like.

I think James Bond isn't particularly committed to his job (I haven't read the novels so I don't know if that is referenced to in them, hopefully somebody will fill me in on that; in the films there are references in OHMSS, TLD and CR), yet his job allows him to please his ego by doing the things I mentioned above. My point is that Bond seducing a man is so anti-Bond, so against what Bond stands for, that I can't see him doing it just for the sake of completing the mission. He usually cares more about himself than about the rest of the world, and I think that he would feel so strongly against that that he would refuse to do it without an extra motivation. That extra motivation could be revenge; with Bond's "emotional turmoil" after the events of Casino Royale I could see him seducing a man if that lead eventually to him getting his revenge. But, generally speaking, that would go against the spirit of the character. Thus, summing up, there is a chance that Craig's Bond could be shown to seduce a man in order to complete the mission (in the context of the events of Casino Royale), but it would go against the character if it happened under any other circumstances.

Let's also keep in mind that the Jackal is more of a professional than Bond, and is fully committed to his job. The only motivation he needs is the money he gets.

This, I think, is the logical side of things, but on a less rational and more emotional note, I don't like the idea of Bond seducing a man under any circumstances. Part of this probably has to do with the fact that I first saw a Bond film when I was five, and I've got such a clear idea of what Bond should be like that any major changes would strike me as awkward.

Edited by mattjoes, 22 April 2008 - 08:40 PM.


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Posted 26 April 2008 - 12:21 PM

Don't worry. I'll be gentle. :tup: Now, where's my Wet Platinum?


Any references to Steely Dan will be viewed with suspicion from now on.

Stop flirting. I can't afford you.


Can you two just get a room or something? The President's Suite perhaps....?