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[Quantumofsolace007]

What do you think whould it go and be in bond 23 as well or should Quantum of Solace efectivly end Quantum?

[Single-O-Seven]

I'd like to see it continue for a bit, yes. From what I'm gathering it probably will. Even if the next film is standalone and doesn't involve them they could always return by Bond 24. After all, Spectre took a break from GF, then returned in TB. But I'd like to see a better conclusion with Quantum and its head than what we got in the films with Spectre.

[Loomis]

I find this Quantum idea absolutely fascinating. Even though we don't really know anything about it. Or maybe because we don't really know anything about it - and I'd like that state of affairs to continue for at least one more film, with more being revealed gradually along the way.

As I've written elsewhere, I'm intrigued by how Quantum will be portrayed - hopefully it'll do for SPECTRE and SPECTRE equivalents what Daniel Craig does for James Bond. I hope that it won't just be treated as a sort of McGuffin organisation that just does whatever it does without much explanation, for I think that the concept has a thrillingly realistic tang about it - you could just about believe that such an outfit might exist (heck, plenty of conspiracy theorists out there do believe that such organisations are real!). At the same time, though, here's hoping that enough mystery about Quantum will be preserved for BOND 23 and beyond.

On another thread, HildebrandRarity mentioned George Soros' famous hedge fund the Quantum Fund. Now, whether this is just coincidence or something that the Bond filmmakers took note of when they were prepping CASINO ROYALE, I think it's pretty cool that Mr White's Mysterious Organisation

[tdalton]

The organization should definitely last another film or two. I think that it would be an unrealistic expectation to think that Bond could take down what appears to be a very extensive organization in just two films. That doesn't necessarily mean that every film that Craig is in has to feature the organization, but it should remain a problem for Bond for at least two more films (perhaps BOND 23 and then the leader of the organization resurfaces in BOND 25 after Craig gets a standalone adventure in BOND 24).

[Captain Tightpants]

I'd certaily like to see them stick around, and not simply because we're only beginning to learn who they are in his film. I imagine that if Quantum are as far-reaching as it has been implied, Dominic Greene's plans aren't the only ones that are being implemented (but they're probably the closest to fruition). I'd certainly like to see a film where their plans actually succeed and change the world in some way; Bond always gets there just in time. I'm not saying they should nuke a country or something, but I can picture Quantum starting a war for profits.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I'd certaily like to see them stick around, and not simply because we're only beginning to learn who they are in his film. I imagine that if Quantum are as far-reaching as it has been implied, Dominic Greene's plans aren't the only ones that are being implemented (but they're probably the closest to fruition). I'd certainly like to see a film where their plans actually succeed and change the world in some way; Bond always gets there just in time. I'm not saying they should nuke a country or something, but I can picture Quantum starting a war for profits.

Interesting Captain

I hope quantum does sitck around the impresion i got on the first read of USA today is that quantum will be done with in this film.

but hopefully won't be the case,.

Like i said a lot of news has come about today this will probably take the whole weekend to properly digest.

[Captain Tightpants]

I'd certaily like to see them stick around, and not simply because we're only beginning to learn who they are in his film. I imagine that if Quantum are as far-reaching as it has been implied, Dominic Greene's plans aren't the only ones that are being implemented (but they're probably the closest to fruition). I'd certainly like to see a film where their plans actually succeed and change the world in some way; Bond always gets there just in time. I'm not saying they should nuke a country or something, but I can picture Quantum starting a war for profits.

Interesting Captain

I hope quantum does sitck around the impresion i got on the first read of USA today is that quantum will be done with in this film.

but hopefully won't be the case,.

Like i said a lot of news has come about today this will probably take the whole weekend to properly digest.

Really? I got the impression from the article that we're only beginning to scratch the surface of Quantum. We find out some of the ways that they operate, but I don't think Dominic Greene is the Big Bad. In fact, I think he's only a little further up the chain of command than Le Chiffre and Mr. White, a kind of facilitator if you will. He's a point man for the operations; while he implements their plans, he's still taking orders.

In truth, I'd like to see Bond 23 without Quantum, if only to show that Bond either dealt them a huge blow in this film or that he prompted them to go further underground, and that they return for Bond 24. I can't see them lasting forever, though; after Bond 25 or maybe Bond 26, Quantum will be getting past its use-by date. I think four films will be enough to fully explore their organisation; three simply reeks of trilogy-itis.

[Harmsway]

Really? I got the impression from the article that we're only beginning to scratch the surface of Quantum.

Me too. Wilson said, "In this film we're getting a little peek at the organization." Hardly seems like Quantum is going to be fully finished by the time the film's wrapped.

I think four films will be enough to fully explore their organisation; three simply reeks of trilogy-itis.

But it would be really nice to see a tightly unified trilogy. At least from my perspective. Trilogies aren't at all bad when they're done well. It's just that most of the time, they're not.

Anyway, it's all but guaranteed that Quantum will be back in the future. Whether it's BOND 23 or BOND 24, however, is something that will probably be determined by the ending of QUANTUM OF SOLACE.

[Jim]

It sounds pretty unlikely that it'll be finished by the end of Quantum of Sony.

[Captain Tightpants]

Really? I got the impression from the article that we're only beginning to scratch the surface of Quantum.

Me too. Wilson said, "In this film we're getting a little peek at the organization." Hardly seems like Quantum is going to be fully finished by the time the film's wrapped.

I think four films will be enough to fully explore their organisation; three simply reeks of trilogy-itis.

But it would be really nice to see a tightly unified trilogy. At least from my perspective. Trilogies aren't at all bad when they're done well. It's just that most of the time, they're not.

Anyway, it's all but guaranteed that Quantum will be back in the future. Whether it's BOND 23 or BOND 24, however, is something that will probably be determined by the ending of QUANTUM OF SOLACE.

To be honest, the way I'd like to see Quantum of Solace end would be in the vein of Casino Royale: with the final shot setting up the next film. Specifically, I think we should hear an unknown character's voice as we watch Bond disappear. The camera draws back and we see a man with his back to us watching him. He hangs up his mobile phone and the camera follows him as he puts it back in his pocket. There, in his other hand, is a silenced handgun and Vesper's Algerian Love Knot. It's Vesper's boyfriend, convinced by Quantum that James Bond is the man responsible for her death ... Bond 23 could therefore either follow Bond and the Boyfriend or have some wider Quantum plot.

[Vauxhall]

I may be alone here but I'm under the impression that Quantum is merely the front organisation and is the name of Dominic Greene's legitimate business group. I know that it was reported that the front group was called Greene Planet but that may have changed I suppose... If Quantum was a global villainous group, I just don't think that Greene would go around advertising the fact on his lapel pin. I still think that we haven't quite got as far as discovering who the actual organisation behind Greene is yet.

[Captain Tightpants]

I may be alone here but I'm under the impression that Quantum is merely the front organisation and is the name of Dominic Greene's legitimate business group. I know that it was reported that the front group was called Greene Planet but that may have changed I suppose... If Quantum was a global villainous group, I just don't think that Greene would go around advertising the fact on his lapel pin. I still think that we haven't quite got as far as discovering who the actual organisation behind Greene is yet.

MGW confimed the name of the organisation is Quantum. All the articles are reporting both Green Planet and Quantum exist within the Bondverse. Hence, I don't think Quantum is the "new" cover name of Greene's business.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I may be alone here but I'm under the impression that Quantum is merely the front organisation and is the name of Dominic Greene's legitimate business group. I know that it was reported that the front group was called Greene Planet but that may have changed I suppose... If Quantum was a global villainous group, I just don't think that Greene would go around advertising the fact on his lapel pin. I still think that we haven't quite got as far as discovering who the actual organisation behind Greene is yet.

MGW confimed the name of the organisation is Quantum. All the articles are reporting both Green Planet and Quantum exist within the Bondverse. Hence, I don't think Quantum is the "new" cover name of Greene's business.

Good I like Quantum it's mysterous and high tech sounding.


I just don't want spectre back

[HH007]

I have mixed feelings here, because, while I would love to see the storyline of the terrorist organization develope over the course of several movies, I can also think of a few "grand narrative" trilogies that simply didn't need to be trilogies (Matrix and Bourne come to mind). Those films were only made trilogies because people like trilogies for some reason. So, for Bond, if there's enough to this "Quantum" story to sustain it for three (or more) movies, then do it. Otherwise, I think they should wrap it up in this one.


Come to think of it, The Godfather 3 was a movie that really didn't need to be made.

[tdalton]

I have mixed feelings here, because, while I would love to see the storyline of the terrorist organization develope over the course of several movies, I can also think of a few "grand narrative" trilogies that simply didn't need to be trilogies (Matrix and Bourne come to mind). Those films were only made trilogies because people like trilogies for some reason. So, for Bond, if there's enough to this "Quantum" story to sustain it for three (or more) movies, then do it. Otherwise, I think they should wrap it up in this one.

I think that the organization is extensive enough to warrant at least a third film with it as the enemy and perhaps more. I think that a great scenario for the series would be to have Bond think that he has destroyed the organization in BOND 23 and then have a standalone adventure in BOND 24, only to have the leader of the organization re-emerge in BOND 25, which would then be an adaptation of some of the elements of YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE.

[HH007]

I have mixed feelings here, because, while I would love to see the storyline of the terrorist organization develope over the course of several movies, I can also think of a few "grand narrative" trilogies that simply didn't need to be trilogies (Matrix and Bourne come to mind). Those films were only made trilogies because people like trilogies for some reason. So, for Bond, if there's enough to this "Quantum" story to sustain it for three (or more) movies, then do it. Otherwise, I think they should wrap it up in this one.

I think that the organization is extensive enough to warrant at least a third film with it as the enemy and perhaps more. I think that a great scenario for the series would be to have Bond think that he has destroyed the organization in BOND 23 and then have a standalone adventure in BOND 24, only to have the leader of the organization re-emerge in BOND 25, which would then be an adaptation of some of the elements of YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE.

I do kind of like that idea.

[Quantumofsolace007]

however playing devil's advocate i don't want them to rush through the orgnization known as Quantum.

[tdalton]

however playing devil's advocate i don't want them to rush through the orgnization known as Quantum.

I don't want them to rush through the Quantum storyline either. I think that there are some really interesting places to go with it that could eventually include an adaptation of Fleming's YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE and THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN.

What I would really like to see from the Quantum story arc would be about a four or five film story arc, possibly looking something like this:

QUANTUM OF SOLACE: It's revealed at the end of the film that the leaders of the organization are Jack and Seraffimo Spang.

BOND 23 (titled "Risico"): Bond dispatches Seraffimo Spang at the beginning of the film, which causes his brother to go on the run while Bond tries to tries to track him down across the globe, but with no success. The film would focus on Bond trying to disrupt other aspects of the Quantum organization as well as disabling its money flow by interrupting several of its global operations.

BOND 24 (titled "A Whisper of Love"): This one would take place several years after BOND 23. At this point, Bond has gotten over Vesper Lynd and has moved on with his life. He has significantly hindered the Quantum organization to the point where it's no longer considered a global threat. M sends him out on a simple mission, perhaps something involving smuggling. Bond also falls in love again, which happens near the end of the film.

BOND 25 (titled "A Whisper of Hate"): Right at the beginning of the film, Jack Spang eliminates the woman that Bond had fallen in love with in BOND 24, which harkens back to BOND 23 when Bond had eliminated Seraffimo Spang. This devestates Bond, for both the reason that he has once again lost the love of his life as well as the fact that he had failed to destroy the Quantum organization. Fearing that Bond is slipping away mentally, M sends him on the impossible assignment of YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, to investigate Dr. Guntram von Shatterhand, who is operating in Japan. Bond goes to Japan, at tries to find Shatterhand. Once he does, he learns that he is in fact Jack Spang. The conclusion of the film is the Garden of Death, with Bond finally taking down the Quantum organization.

[SPOTTER]

I think that bringing a new criminal organization to the table is a great idea and it would be great to see it last for a few more films yet. I think Daniel Craig has at least another 3 films in him after QOS so for him to battle Quantum during his time would be great entertainment. Quantum woudn't have to be the main villain all the time but like Connery's break with GOLDFINGER, Craig's Bond could have a change and then get back on their trail so to speak. Great stuff. Can't wait for the film.

[Captain Tightpants]

however playing devil's advocate i don't want them to rush through the orgnization known as Quantum.

I don't want them to rush through the Quantum storyline either. I think that there are some really interesting places to go with it that could eventually include an adaptation of Fleming's YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE and THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN.

What I would really like to see from the Quantum story arc would be about a four or five film story arc, possibly looking something like this:

QUANTUM OF SOLACE: It's revealed at the end of the film that the leaders of the organization are Jack and Seraffimo Spang.

BOND 23 (titled "Risico"): Bond dispatches Seraffimo Spang at the beginning of the film, which causes his brother to go on the run while Bond tries to tries to track him down across the globe, but with no success. The film would focus on Bond trying to disrupt other aspects of the Quantum organization as well as disabling its money flow by interrupting several of its global operations.

BOND 24 (titled "A Whisper of Love"): This one would take place several years after BOND 23. At this point, Bond has gotten over Vesper Lynd and has moved on with his life. He has significantly hindered the Quantum organization to the point where it's no longer considered a global threat. M sends him out on a simple mission, perhaps something involving smuggling. Bond also falls in love again, which happens near the end of the film.

BOND 25 (titled "A Whisper of Hate"): Right at the beginning of the film, Jack Spang eliminates the woman that Bond had fallen in love with in BOND 24, which harkens back to BOND 23 when Bond had eliminated Seraffimo Spang. This devestates Bond, for both the reason that he has once again lost the love of his life as well as the fact that he had failed to destroy the Quantum organization. Fearing that Bond is slipping away mentally, M sends him on the impossible assignment of YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, to investigate Dr. Guntram von Shatterhand, who is operating in Japan. Bond goes to Japan, at tries to find Shatterhand. Once he does, he learns that he is in fact Jack Spang. The conclusion of the film is the Garden of Death, with Bond finally taking down the Quantum organization.

The only thing wrong with that idea is calling BOND 23 "A Whisper of Love". It might be a Fleming chapter title - I can't recall - but it's not Bondian enough for a film title. When you hear the title of a Bond film, you know it's a Bond film. And you don't get that with A Whisper of Love; if anything, it sounds more like some dodgy teeny-bopper romantic comedy than anything else.

[Single-O-Seven]

however playing devil's advocate i don't want them to rush through the orgnization known as Quantum.

I don't want them to rush through the Quantum storyline either. I think that there are some really interesting places to go with it that could eventually include an adaptation of Fleming's YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE and THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN.

What I would really like to see from the Quantum story arc would be about a four or five film story arc, possibly looking something like this:

QUANTUM OF SOLACE: It's revealed at the end of the film that the leaders of the organization are Jack and Seraffimo Spang.

BOND 23 (titled "Risico"): Bond dispatches Seraffimo Spang at the beginning of the film, which causes his brother to go on the run while Bond tries to tries to track him down across the globe, but with no success. The film would focus on Bond trying to disrupt other aspects of the Quantum organization as well as disabling its money flow by interrupting several of its global operations.

BOND 24 (titled "A Whisper of Love"): This one would take place several years after BOND 23. At this point, Bond has gotten over Vesper Lynd and has moved on with his life. He has significantly hindered the Quantum organization to the point where it's no longer considered a global threat. M sends him out on a simple mission, perhaps something involving smuggling. Bond also falls in love again, which happens near the end of the film.

BOND 25 (titled "A Whisper of Hate"): Right at the beginning of the film, Jack Spang eliminates the woman that Bond had fallen in love with in BOND 24, which harkens back to BOND 23 when Bond had eliminated Seraffimo Spang. This devestates Bond, for both the reason that he has once again lost the love of his life as well as the fact that he had failed to destroy the Quantum organization. Fearing that Bond is slipping away mentally, M sends him on the impossible assignment of YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, to investigate Dr. Guntram von Shatterhand, who is operating in Japan. Bond goes to Japan, at tries to find Shatterhand. Once he does, he learns that he is in fact Jack Spang. The conclusion of the film is the Garden of Death, with Bond finally taking down the Quantum organization.

The only thing wrong with that idea is calling BOND 23 "A Whisper of Love". It might be a Fleming chapter title - I can't recall - but it's not Bondian enough for a film title. When you hear the title of a Bond film, you know it's a Bond film. And you don't get that with A Whisper of Love; if anything, it sounds more like some dodgy teeny-bopper romantic comedy than anything else.

I agree that "A Whisper of Love" - first part of a chapter title from CR - doesn't sound great on its own. The second part of that same chapter title - "A Whisper of Hate" - is definitely an appealing Bond title, and I'd love to see it attached to a future film. I wouldn't be surprised if it was sooner rather than later.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I feel certain of fleming's titles

A Whisper of Hate
The Hildebrnad Rarity
Risico
The property of a Lady
Shatterhand
and
The Nature of Evil

fit the fleming style they are after

Back on to Quantum I feel they should last more than two films but an interesting take Say the Spangled Mob is on of Quantum's clients you could do your "stand alone" bond filmsusing the Spangled mob however they are being bankrolled by Quantum so it would add an interesting dynamic to the films would bond be more or less burtal to Quantum's Clients?

[00Twelve]

Absolutely; I think Quantum should last for a trilogy, at least (including CR). At. Least.

I'd even think it'd be fine to have a one-off in Bond 23 like Fleming did with TSWLM being within the Blofeld Trilogy and MR/DAF giving Bond a break from SMERSH, or EON's GF interrupting the SPECTRE stories. However, I'm not too sure modern audiences would be willing to go for such a one-off without an explanation. Heck, I probably wouldn't, either.

[tdalton]

however playing devil's advocate i don't want them to rush through the orgnization known as Quantum.

I don't want them to rush through the Quantum storyline either. I think that there are some really interesting places to go with it that could eventually include an adaptation of Fleming's YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE and THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN.

What I would really like to see from the Quantum story arc would be about a four or five film story arc, possibly looking something like this:

QUANTUM OF SOLACE: It's revealed at the end of the film that the leaders of the organization are Jack and Seraffimo Spang.

BOND 23 (titled "Risico"): Bond dispatches Seraffimo Spang at the beginning of the film, which causes his brother to go on the run while Bond tries to tries to track him down across the globe, but with no success. The film would focus on Bond trying to disrupt other aspects of the Quantum organization as well as disabling its money flow by interrupting several of its global operations.

BOND 24 (titled "A Whisper of Love"): This one would take place several years after BOND 23. At this point, Bond has gotten over Vesper Lynd and has moved on with his life. He has significantly hindered the Quantum organization to the point where it's no longer considered a global threat. M sends him out on a simple mission, perhaps something involving smuggling. Bond also falls in love again, which happens near the end of the film.

BOND 25 (titled "A Whisper of Hate"): Right at the beginning of the film, Jack Spang eliminates the woman that Bond had fallen in love with in BOND 24, which harkens back to BOND 23 when Bond had eliminated Seraffimo Spang. This devestates Bond, for both the reason that he has once again lost the love of his life as well as the fact that he had failed to destroy the Quantum organization. Fearing that Bond is slipping away mentally, M sends him on the impossible assignment of YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, to investigate Dr. Guntram von Shatterhand, who is operating in Japan. Bond goes to Japan, at tries to find Shatterhand. Once he does, he learns that he is in fact Jack Spang. The conclusion of the film is the Garden of Death, with Bond finally taking down the Quantum organization.

The only thing wrong with that idea is calling BOND 23 "A Whisper of Love". It might be a Fleming chapter title - I can't recall - but it's not Bondian enough for a film title. When you hear the title of a Bond film, you know it's a Bond film. And you don't get that with A Whisper of Love; if anything, it sounds more like some dodgy teeny-bopper romantic comedy than anything else.

You're probably right on "A Whisper of Love" as a Bond title. The other, more Bondian title that I think that they could go with in this scenario would be another Fleming chapter title from CASINO ROYALE, "The Nature of Evil" or one from ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE "The Gambit of Shame".

[Captain Tightpants]

I'd kind of like Elvis to be some kind of operative or enforcer for Quantum and for him to survive Quantum of Solace. Not in a tacky way like Jaws did - though tacky certainly seems an appropriate way to describe him - but to simply have him as a smart fighter, someone who knows that if he's going to kill Bond, it's because he's the one who picks the time, the place and the ground upon which the fight takes place. He's not going to recklessly engage Bond in a fight, he's going to put Bond in a position where it's easy for Bond to die.

I'd then make Bond 23 a sequel to Quantum of Solace with Elvis as the main villain, bent on killing Bond. The film has some connection to Quantum, but they're not the resident villains because Bond either dealt them a huge blow because he foils Greene's plot, or because Bond's actions prompt them to go further underground. An interesting way of doing it would be to have Elvis assassinating anyone affiliated with Quantum who is not integral to the organisation. MI6 have these people under surveillance, and so send Bond out to find whoever is killing them off before Quantum disappears entirely. Thus, the main villain would be Elvis and while the film doesn't centre around a Quantum plot for control of the world's economy, we'd get a film related to them but not about them. The final scene would set up Bond 24 with a big revelation about the nature of Quantum.

[Mr. Blofeld]

How about Wide of the Mark?

[tdalton]

I'd even think it'd be fine to have a one-off in Bond 23 like Fleming did with TSWLM being within the Blofeld Trilogy and MR/DAF giving Bond a break from SMERSH, or EON's GF interrupting the SPECTRE stories. However, I'm not too sure modern audiences would be willing to go for such a one-off without an explanation. Heck, I probably wouldn't, either.

I think that a standalone in BOND 23 could work if they played it off as Bond and MI6 thinking that Quantum ended with Dominic Greene and that there was the organization was no longer operating, and then have them pop back up again in BOND 24 to the surprise of both Bond and MI6.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I'd even think it'd be fine to have a one-off in Bond 23 like Fleming did with TSWLM being within the Blofeld Trilogy and MR/DAF giving Bond a break from SMERSH, or EON's GF interrupting the SPECTRE stories. However, I'm not too sure modern audiences would be willing to go for such a one-off without an explanation. Heck, I probably wouldn't, either.

I think that a standalone in BOND 23 could work if they played it off as Bond and MI6 thinking that Quantum ended with Dominic Greene and that there was the organization was no longer operating, and then have them pop back up again in BOND 24 to the surprise of both Bond and MI6.

or to have bond go after one of Quantum's clients. so yes Quantum is in the back round so to speak but in reality the film is about Bond versus say The Spangled Mob or whoever the client happens to be.

though perhaps just ussing Jack or Stefano Spang (or both) aand not the Spangled mob would be better.

[tdalton]

I'd even think it'd be fine to have a one-off in Bond 23 like Fleming did with TSWLM being within the Blofeld Trilogy and MR/DAF giving Bond a break from SMERSH, or EON's GF interrupting the SPECTRE stories. However, I'm not too sure modern audiences would be willing to go for such a one-off without an explanation. Heck, I probably wouldn't, either.

I think that a standalone in BOND 23 could work if they played it off as Bond and MI6 thinking that Quantum ended with Dominic Greene and that there was the organization was no longer operating, and then have them pop back up again in BOND 24 to the surprise of both Bond and MI6.

or to have bond go after one of Quantum's clients. so yes Quantum is in the back round so to speak but in reality the film is about Bond versus say The Spangled Mob or whoever the client happens to be.

though perhaps just ussing Jack or Stefano Spang (or both) aand not the Spangled mob would be better.

I think that using the Spangled Mob as a client of Quantum would be a great idea. Perhaps one of the conditions for the Spangled Mob being linked to Quantum would be the mob allowing one of their operatives, Fleming's Scaramanga (who, as I recall from reading THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN recently, was at one point an operative for the Spangled Mob) to carry out some of Quantum's business. Of course the Scaramanga character would have to be renamed (he could probably just go by his nickname in the novel, "Pistols"), but the character from the novel is so different to that in the movie that he could be adapted into a film and most of the general audience wouldn't notice. It could even set up for a faithful adaptation of THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN somewhere down the line in the franchise.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I'd even think it'd be fine to have a one-off in Bond 23 like Fleming did with TSWLM being within the Blofeld Trilogy and MR/DAF giving Bond a break from SMERSH, or EON's GF interrupting the SPECTRE stories. However, I'm not too sure modern audiences would be willing to go for such a one-off without an explanation. Heck, I probably wouldn't, either.

I think that a standalone in BOND 23 could work if they played it off as Bond and MI6 thinking that Quantum ended with Dominic Greene and that there was the organization was no longer operating, and then have them pop back up again in BOND 24 to the surprise of both Bond and MI6.

or to have bond go after one of Quantum's clients. so yes Quantum is in the back round so to speak but in reality the film is about Bond versus say The Spangled Mob or whoever the client happens to be.

though perhaps just ussing Jack or Stefano Spang (or both) aand not the Spangled mob would be better.

I think that using the Spangled Mob as a client of Quantum would be a great idea. Perhaps one of the conditions for the Spangled Mob being linked to Quantum would be the mob allowing one of their operatives, Fleming's Scaramanga (who, as I recall from reading THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN recently, was at one point an operative for the Spangled Mob) to carry out some of Quantum's business. Of course the Scaramanga character would have to be renamed (he could probably just go by his nickname in the novel, "Pistols"), but the character from the novel is so different to that in the movie that he could be adapted into a film and most of the general audience wouldn't notice. It could even set up for a faithful adaptation of THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN somewhere down the line in the franchise.

Paco Pistols hmmm i have a fealling much Like Elvis he too will get laughed at a bit.



But Yeah i just think considering W'eve had a real orgnization (the lord's army) be associated with Quantum it would make sense to have Jack and Stefiano's Spang be in league with them. interestingly enough they might not even like Quantum but have to do business with them for some reason. (which may add even more intrigue to the film)


Just because they are all bad guys doesn't mean they have to agree or even like each other.



as for readapting TMWTGG i wouldn't mind it so long as they leave the brainwwashed bond out of it. I hated it when i read it and i'd hate seeing it on the screen/ Boond can be dark and brooding ala fleming's bond but i don't want him turning into a villian even for a scene.