QoS climax
#1
Posted 19 March 2008 - 11:56 AM
#2
Posted 19 March 2008 - 11:59 AM
#3
Posted 19 March 2008 - 12:23 PM
I can't recall hearing anything about it - so far it's all about action, opening sequence, some events along the way but nothing about the climax. Has anyone heard anything about this?
#4
Posted 19 March 2008 - 01:23 PM
#5
Posted 19 March 2008 - 02:38 PM
#6
Posted 19 March 2008 - 02:52 PM
#7
Posted 19 March 2008 - 02:56 PM
Not sure where it's going to be set or what it will involve, but it seems like there's going to be a particularly nasty fight between Greene and Bond.
Ah, true. That would typically be the finale wouldn't it. I still can't picture that fight...
#8
Posted 19 March 2008 - 03:00 PM
Not sure where it's going to be set or what it will involve, but it seems like there's going to be a particularly nasty fight between Greene and Bond.
Ah, true. That would typically be the finale wouldn't it. I still can't picture that fight...
I've been leaked some neat details about this fight. It's pretty cool. Takes place in a giant vault, with Greene tossing a razor-edged hat at Bond while a bomb ticks down behind them. I won't say any more, as I don't want to spoil it.
#9
Posted 19 March 2008 - 04:24 PM
#10
Posted 19 March 2008 - 05:02 PM
If it is for real, then beware, 'coz this is VERY spoilertastic (although it seems set to leak [further] prior to the release date):
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
As for the fight between Bond and Greene, I gather that
#11
Posted 19 March 2008 - 05:22 PM
#12
Posted 19 March 2008 - 05:32 PM
That post just gave me a hardon. My faith in that movie is 200% BACK !
Um... I think bits of it were meant as a joke.
#13
Posted 19 March 2008 - 05:57 PM
This is what i have heard about.
Edited by Fozzco, 19 March 2008 - 06:05 PM.
#14
Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:14 PM
That post just gave me a hardon. My faith in that movie is 200% BACK !
Um... I think bits of it were meant as a joke.
Well, a full hard-on would be premature at this stage, but a semi seems acceptable. I was completely serious about the first thing I mentioned. Read it as a rumour here on CBn a while back. Seems more than believable enough, and the sort of "risk-taking" development that would excite the likes of Craig, Forster and Haggis. It's hardly yer usual "Oh, James!" ending, and would also be a nice nod to Fleming in 2008 The Year Of Flemmmmign.
It's just an unconfirmed rumour, but a credible one, IMO.
#15
Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:19 PM
#16
Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:24 PM
It does seem risk-taking, but it doesn't seem like it fits some of the other info we know. Forster has said he has no intention of continuing with the franchise and that he fully intends QUANTUM OF SOLACE to a self-contained adventure.
Not sure why that ending would negate a self-contained adventure. Besides, everyone knows that BOND 23 is guaranteed, so it's not as though it's all that risk-taking anyway. It's a stunt that Fleming himself pulled not once but twice!
Also, if Forster has said that he has no intention of making another Bond film (which I didn't know - cheers for the info), I'd suggest that he'd be very tempted by such an ending. After all, he'd be the director who (in a way) got to
#17
Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:27 PM
It depends on how the ending is done. Done a certain way, it could be self-contained and feel like a complete journey. Done another way, it'll feel like little more than a giant sequel set-up.Not sure why that ending would negate a self-contained adventure. Besides, everyone knows that BOND 23 is guaranteed, so it's not as though it's all that risk-taking anyway. It's a stunt that Fleming himself pulled not once but twice!
Spoiler
Perhaps so.Also, if Forster has said that he has no intention of making another Bond film (which I didn't know - cheers for the info), I'd suggest that he'd be very tempted by such an ending. After all, he'd be the director who (in a way) got to
Spoiler
Anyway, I'd be excited if they went that route. I'm just a little dubious of a rumor from an entirely untested source with no further evidence. It's not unbelievable, but there's not really any true reason to believe it is the case, either.
#18
Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:34 PM
#19
Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:59 PM
Anybody wanna make a bet??
#20
Posted 19 March 2008 - 07:34 PM
And the mystery organizations' name is The Hildebrand Group PLC who, at movie's end, will be revealed to be working on a rare virus that kills all human life that does not have the Arian/Aryan DNA strand.
#21
Posted 19 March 2008 - 07:47 PM
#22
Posted 19 March 2008 - 07:58 PM
#23
Posted 19 March 2008 - 08:05 PM
QOS will end with Bond finding out the name of the shady organization he's up against and the third Craig film will be the conclusion/closure . The name of the organization is:
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Anybody wanna make a bet??
It's certainly been rumoured here and there, but I just don't see it happening personally.
#24
Posted 19 March 2008 - 08:38 PM
Done a certain way, it could be self-contained and feel like a complete journey. Done another way, it'll feel like little more than a giant sequel set-up.
Dunno about you, but BOND 22 has always felt to me like a bridging film between CASINO ROYALE and BOND 23, the likely climax of Craig's BOND BEGINS trilogy. In some ways, I fear that, like THE TWO TOWERS and THE BOURNE SUPREMACY, QUANTUM OF SOLACE will feel incomplete and unsatisfying as a stand-alone watch, but I think that that's always been on the cards, and a feeling of energy and innovation will compensate for the sense of a lack of wholeness.
I'm just a little dubious of a rumor from an entirely untested source with no further evidence. It's not unbelievable, but there's not really any true reason to believe it is the case, either.
True, although I somehow suspect that we won't get yer traditional "Oh, James!" ending. Perhaps, though, I'm being too blinded by the idea of Haggis and Forster as giants of risk-taking cinematic art. It may well be that those guys are quite content to just make a damn good James Bond movie (and nothing wrong with that), and aren't constantly scheming away over how to pull the rug from under the audience's feet.
However, as I'm sure you'd agree, if ever there was a time that was right for Eon to use the ending ideas I mention in my first post on this thread, that time is now.
#25
Posted 19 March 2008 - 11:12 PM
Not to me. I've always thought of QUANTUM OF SOLACE as another standalone film that has some ties to the previous entry, but was very much an entirely satisfying film in its own right. That's certainly been the company line from EON, Haggis, and Forster.Dunno about you, but BOND 22 has always felt to me like a bridging film between CASINO ROYALE and BOND 23, the likely climax of Craig's BOND BEGINS trilogy.
I always felt that THE BOURNE SUPREMACY was a rather independent, complete film in its own way. Not at all a "bridge" film. It didn't demand a sequel.In some ways, I fear that, like THE TWO TOWERS and THE BOURNE SUPREMACY, QUANTUM OF SOLACE will feel incomplete and unsatisfying as a stand-alone watch, but I think that that's always been on the cards, and a feeling of energy and innovation will compensate for the sense of a lack of wholeness.
Oh, I'm quite sure we won't get Bond and the girl as the finale. But there are plenty of options that avoid that that aren't as boldly shocking as the scenario suggested above.True, although I somehow suspect that we won't get yer traditional "Oh, James!" ending.
I actually think it would be more appropriate for the finale of BOND 23.However, as I'm sure you'd agree, if ever there was a time that was right for Eon to use the ending ideas I mention in my first post on this thread, that time is now.
#26
Posted 20 March 2008 - 12:00 AM
So, Bond would come back played by a different actor? Done this way, there's no unease in the transition.I actually think it would be more appropriate for the finale of BOND 23.
#27
Posted 20 March 2008 - 12:02 AM
Not necessarily. I just think that such a dramatic event is best suited for the end of this cycle, just like it closed out Fleming's SPECTRE trilogy.So, Bond would come back played by a different actor?I actually think it would be more appropriate for the finale of BOND 23.
#28
Posted 20 March 2008 - 12:05 AM
Well, I would think you'd need an improved version of TMWTGG to close out the whole thing, wouldn't you? Just think: M attacked in her own office by a deranged 007! The possibilities are endless.Not necessarily. I just think that such a dramatic event is best suited for the end of this cycle, just like it closed out Fleming's SPECTRE trilogy.So, Bond would come back played by a different actor?I actually think it would be more appropriate for the finale of BOND 23.
#29
Posted 20 March 2008 - 12:12 AM
Nah. I find that storyline ridiculous to the point of absurdity, and I hope the cinematic Bond never touches it. By far Fleming's weakest hour.Well, I would think you'd need an improved version of TMWTGG to close out the whole thing, wouldn't you? Just think: M attacked in her own office by a deranged 007! The possibilities are endless.
#30
Posted 20 March 2008 - 12:19 AM
Well, didn't they semi-adapt it for LTK's oddly-sensitive Sanchez?Nah. I find that storyline ridiculous to the point of absurdity, and I hope the cinematic Bond never touches it. By far Fleming's weakest hour.Well, I would think you'd need an improved version of TMWTGG to close out the whole thing, wouldn't you? Just think: M attacked in her own office by a deranged 007! The possibilities are endless.