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[DamnCoffee]

Judging by todays standards... I dont think the 'bad' words used in Casino Royale were that bad.

[dee-bee-five]

Those words aren't considered profanity in the United States these days.

Maybe not, but in the area where I live, you sometimes hear those words often (even the stonger ones too) and they sometimes get very annoing. Therefore, they also count those kind of words "bad."

Where you live maybe, but I think you'll find CR isn't set where you live. James Bond is English, and the English tend to swear quite a lot, I'm afraid.

Indeed, we do. And we don't give a about it, either.

(You didn't really mean to write "James Bond is English", by the way, did you...? )

I kind of did. I started saying something about English and Scottish, and how the Scots swear even more but it was getting a bit long-winded, by which time I'd bored myself too much to bother to change the 'English' to 'British'. You knew what I meant, though. And I'm fairly sure our dear Queen uses the F-word regularly.

All the aristocracy do. Her uncle, the late, unlamented Edward VIII, was said to have the foulest mouth in England, according to those who worked on the Royal Estates. And, let's face it, her husband is hardly a shrinking violet when it comes to the old effing and blinding, is he?

[Santa]

I actually think the language used in CR was very well-judged but clearly not everyone agrees with me...

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All the aristocracy do. Her uncle, the late, unlamented Edward VIII, was said to have the foulest mouth in England, according to those who worked on the Royal Estates. And, let's face it, her husband is hardly a shrinking violet when it comes to the old effing and blinding, is he?

I think in Britain we use bad language more than probably any other country in the world. In Spanish and French for instance they have a good share of swear words but in both quality and quantity of those, they don't come anywhere near English. It seems to surprise Americans quite often just how much the average Brit swears. I personally think I swear too much but I've got nothing on most people I know.

[Publius]

The US went to war with Canada over this very issue in the South Park movie. "Remember what the MPAA says: Horrific, deplorable violence is okay, as long as people don't say any naughty words! That's what this war is all about!"

[dee-bee-five]

I actually think the language used in CR was very well-judged but clearly not everyone agrees with me...

http://www.sbbfc.co....ainingabout.asp

All the aristocracy do. Her uncle, the late, unlamented Edward VIII, was said to have the foulest mouth in England, according to those who worked on the Royal Estates. And, let's face it, her husband is hardly a shrinking violet when it comes to the old effing and blinding, is he?

I think in Britain we use bad language more than probably any other country in the world. In Spanish and French for instance they have a good share of swear words but in both quality and quantity of those, they don't come anywhere near English. It seems to surprise Americans quite often just how much the average Brit swears. I personally think I swear too much but I've got nothing on most people I know.

It is funny how shocked people are by how much the English swear - not to mention how much we drink.

[Zorin Industries]

Those words aren't considered profanity in the United States these days.

Maybe not, but in the area where I live, you sometimes hear those words often (even the stonger ones too) and they sometimes get very annoing. Therefore, they also count those kind of words "bad."

Yet, the "area" in which you live screens such filthy, depraved fare as CASINO ROYALE and YOU pay your money to go and see it not only at the cinema but probably in the comfort of your own DVD player. You're a fan of the wrong genre and character if this thread is not a wind-up.

[Mister Asterix]

In your opinion, do you think it was really necessary to put profanity in the twenty-first Bond movie, Casino Royale[?]

Yes.

It would have been quite unrealistic for a movie about murder, sex, gambling, and torture to have no profanity. The mild use of profane language in Casino Royale was just barely enough to make the language match the other profane elements of the film.

[Jim]

In your opinion, do you think it was really necessary to put profanity in the twenty-first Bond movie, Casino Royale[?]

Yes.

It would have been quite unrealistic for a movie about murder, sex, gambling, and torture to have no profanity. The mild use of profane language in Casino Royale was just barely enough to make the language match the other profane elements of the film.

Accordingly, the question becomes whether the language was profane enough, not whether there was too much. Frankly, if I was being whacked around the testicles with a rope (except voluntarily and at substantial financial expense), I might be given to a bit of a sweary moment. "Poo off, yer bounder," or something to that effect.

[Zorin Industries]

Is there a waltonsfamily.net that can provide scope for discussion about Mary-Ellen's latest home-made maternity dress or Jim-Bob's need to be a pilot? I gather The Waltons don't swear and are apparently far more representative of good, God-fearing American life rather than, say, those nasty and vulgar Simpsons.

Actually, I could see 007 filming in the Waltons Mountains. Oh - no - maybe not - you'd never be able to move all those cowboys enjoying their "annual fishing trips" in peace....

In your opinion, do you think it was really necessary to put profanity in the twenty-first Bond movie, Casino Royale[?]

Yes.

It would have been quite unrealistic for a movie about murder, sex, gambling, and torture to have no profanity. The mild use of profane language in Casino Royale was just barely enough to make the language match the other profane elements of the film.

Accordingly, the question becomes whether the language was profane enough, not whether there was too much. Frankly, if I was being whacked around the testicles with a rope (excpet voluntarily), I might be given to a bit of a sweary moment. "Poo off, yer bounder," or something to that effect.

Or I'd at least slap the bounder responsible around the face with a pair of driving gloves.

[Jim]

Or I'd at least slap the bounder responsible around the face with a pair of driving gloves.

There are websites for that enthusiasts of sort of thing.

This would appear to be one of them.

[Harry Fawkes]

I must ing agree with the ing guy who pointed out that ing swearing or ing profanity or call it what you ing want is ing out of place in a ing Bond film. I mean . This is a ing family ing film we're ing talking about and we all ing know that ing kids accompany their ing parents. Yeah, listening to James Bond ing swearing is ing perverse and should be ing edited ing out of the ing film. There is no ing room in this ing day and ing age for such in high ing quality ing movies such as Bond ing movies. ing perverse I tell you!

me dead I got carried away there. Sorry

[Jim]

I must ing agree with the ing guy who pointed out that ing swearing or ing profanity or call it what you ing want is ing out of place in a ing Bond film. I mean . This is a ing family ing film we're ing talking about and we all ing know that ing kids accompany their ing parents. Yeah, listening to James Bond ing swearing is ing perverse and should be ing edited ing out of the ing film. There is no ing room in this ing day and ing age for such in high ing quality ing movies such as Bond ing movies. ing perverse I tell you!

me dead I got carried away there. Sorry

...and then Harry Fawkes off.

[Harry Fawkes]

[Bondian]

Just imagine if Bond was a fighter pilot in WW2.

Bond to Le Chiffre (in the torture scene) "I say old chappie. Would you mind not swinging that rat on a rope at my undies as it's extremely unsatisfying. If you do not stop I'll need to bash you on the nose".

[Harmsway]

CASINO ROYALE had very little profanity. Heck, I could stand to see a little more, even... Fleming's Bond used some pretty choice words now and then.

[agentjamesbond007]

Bond to Le Chiffre (in the torture scene) "I say old chappie. Would you mind not swinging that rat on a rope at my undies as it's extremely unsatisfying. If you do not stop I'll need to bash you on the nose".

That would make bond sound more like a fool. If you come to think of it, it sounds more like a girl's line.

[Bondian]

Bond to Le Chiffre (in the torture scene) "I say old chappie. Would you mind not swinging that rat on a rope at my undies as it's extremely unsatisfying. If you do not stop I'll need to bash you on the nose".

That would make bond sound more like a fool. If you come to think of it, it sounds more like a girl's line.

I'm sure he felt like one until he got the feeling back in his gonads.

[col_007]

Bond to Le Chiffre (in the torture scene) "I say old chappie. Would you mind not swinging that rat on a rope at my undies as it's extremely unsatisfying. If you do not stop I'll need to bash you on the nose".

That would make bond sound more like a fool. If you come to think of it, it sounds more like a girl's line.

abit like you for starting this silly thread to be honest

[Single-O-Seven]

The US went to war with Canada over this very issue in the South Park movie. "Remember what the MPAA says: Horrific, deplorable violence is okay, as long as people don't say any naughty words! That's what this war is all about!"

Yeah, I lost some friends in that war. And a cat.

[Major Tallon]

I suppose we ought to hear from James Bond on the topic (YOLT, chapter nine):

"No self-respecting man could get through the day without his battery of four-letter words to cope with the roughage of life and let off steam. If you're late for a vital appointment with your superiors, and you find that you've left all your papers at home, surely you say, well, Freddie Uncle Charlie Katie, if I may put it so as not to offend."

Fleming's readers will know that the literary Bond employs quite a lot of profanity, and we'd expect that of a man who's past life and present employment take him repeatedly to the edge of death. Still, it's generally a grown man's vocabulary of curses, rather than the barnyard scatology that we hear so much today.

As for "Casino Royale," the movie can hardly be thought offensive on the grounds of language. As many prior posters have pointed out, in comparison to what's contained in films today, it's pretty restrained.

For curiosity's sake, can anyone tell me if "bloody" is still considered profanity in the UK? The word is almost unused in America, where it's most likely to be considered rather quaint.

[Turn]

I always found it a bit out of place that in not one but two movies with sex and violence and one featuring partial nudity, although not gratuitous, Bond utters "There

[dinovelvet]

I always found it a bit out of place that in not one but two movies with sex and violence and one featuring partial nudity, although not gratuitous, Bond utters "There's a useful four-letter word, and you're full of it" at a villain. Just say it already. After slapping around women, pushing kids into nasty canals and whatever else, a naughty word won't corrupt anybody.

I agree, and I think Casino Royale was the perfect opportunity to do it, since they were introducing a tougher, more real world Bond. Craig's Bond would be perfectly at home with telling Le Chiffre to go himself. In fact they could have pasted in that exchange from the torture scene in Fleming's Goldfinger, where Bond DOES say that, and Goldfinger's response is "I'm afraid not even I have the ability to do that, Mr.Bond" (or something similar). I can just imagine Le Chiffre smugly throwing that in Bond's face!

I can't imagine you'd get too many moviegoers complaining "Well the nudity, murder, gambling, promiscuous sex, alcohol, and genital torture I'm fine with, but the F word really offended me".

[Turn]

I always found it a bit out of place that in not one but two movies with sex and violence and one featuring partial nudity, although not gratuitous, Bond utters "There's a useful four-letter word, and you're full of it" at a villain. Just say it already. After slapping around women, pushing kids into nasty canals and whatever else, a naughty word won't corrupt anybody.

I agree, and I think Casino Royale was the perfect opportunity to do it, since they were introducing a tougher, more real world Bond. Craig's Bond would be perfectly at home with telling Le Chiffre to go himself. In fact they could have pasted in that exchange from the torture scene in Fleming's Goldfinger, where Bond DOES say that, and Goldfinger's response is "I'm afraid not even I have the ability to do that, Mr.Bond" (or something similar). I can just imagine Le Chiffre smugly throwing that in Bond's face!

I can't imagine you'd get too many moviegoers complaining "Well the nudity, murder, gambling, promiscuous sex, alcohol, and genital torture I'm fine with, but the F word really offended me".

Yeah, and think of if there was smoking!

[Mr. Blofeld]

The US went to war with Canada over this very issue in the South Park movie. "Remember what the MPAA says: Horrific, deplorable violence is okay, as long as people don't say any naughty words! That's what this war is all about!"

Yeah, I lost some friends in that war. And a cat.

Was he owned by Blofeld?

[Double-Oh-Zero]

Given what Daniel Craig has said in interviews since Casino Royale's release...

[HH007]

[quote name='Double-Oh-Zero' post='851578' date='19 March 2008 - 02:26']Given what Daniel Craig has said in interviews since Casino Royale's release...

[agentjamesbond007]

Yeah, I lost some friends in that war. And a cat.

Was he owned by Blofeld?

I'm sure even his cat felt harsh fellings about it too.

[Mr. Blofeld]

Yeah, I lost some friends in that war. And a cat.

Was he owned by Blofeld?

I'm sure even his cat felt harsh fellings about it too.

Well, he would, considering he's a cat...

[Monkeyfoahead]

What the hell are they talking about? Profanity...Bah! that's the ing er's excuse to have a ty ing argument about something that was hardly in the ing movie motherers. Damn, if they thought all of the ""profanity"" in Casino Royale was bad, then they should clearly be watching movies from the thirties and early fourties.

[HH007]

What the hell are they talking about? Profanity...Bah! that's the ing er's excuse to have a ty ing argument about something that was hardly in the ing movie motherers. Damn, if they thought all of the ""profanity"" in Casino Royale was bad, then they should clearly be watching movies from the thirties and early fourties.

Yes, or those ing [censored]suckers should watch an episode of Leave It To Beaver.