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#61 Loomis

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Posted 03 February 2008 - 10:36 PM

one of the sillier lines from the torture sequence was gone by the time they filmed the scene


What was the line?

Dialogue is a tricky thing because on the one hand the writer (quite properly) wants to be entertaining and to craft memorable exchanges that people will enjoy and remember, but on the other hand such "movie dialogue" lines can quickly leave behind a sense of believability (and even if they're things that people might indeed say in real life, it's a question, as William Goldman puts it in Adventures in the Screen Trade, of "believing reality" - in other words, it doesn't really matter whether it's "realistic" or not; what matters is whether audiences will buy it).

Few screenwriters - I'm thinking that people like Mike Leigh may be exceptions - can get away with writing dialogue that sounds exactly like real people speaking. For one thing, the way real people speak is often boring and confusing, and certainly not conducive to slick storytelling on film - people talk, for instance, in (as far as movies are concerned) unacceptably longwinded or shortwinded fashion, umming and erring and leaving sentences in the air. Just try putting that sort of thing in a script - chances are it'll be assumed that you cannot write, even though what you've written may in fact be perfectly realistic dialogue.

On the other hand, polish your characters' dialogue up and it's easy to come across as someone peddling phoney wannabe-Tarantino "smart" lines that don't carry the tang of authenticity. There's quite an art to this business of dialogue, and, judging by many finished films, it's one that by no means all professional screenwriters have mastered. Thankfully, though, it's often possible for actors to "rescue" questionable lines, as seems to have happened with CASINO ROYALE.

#62 Agent Spriggan Ominae

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Posted 03 February 2008 - 10:36 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it might have been Harmsway (a good judge of these things IMO) who said that when he first read the torture scene in the CR screenplay he was a little worried. Seeing how it played out on-screen, he was surprised and delighted at how it turned out.

Yeah, that was me. I read some dialogue and knew it was questionable, but I also knew it was up to delivery (and thankfully, a few extra one-liners were cut out of the script, and one of the sillier lines from the torture sequence was gone by the time they filmed the scene). The torture scene dialogue was really dangerous. If it had been delivered by anyone who wasn't a great actor (Brosnan even), it would have fallen entirely flat.

Another area where script readers were a bit off was when they claimed that Le Chiffre was a vacant villain. I said there wasn't much given to the part in the script, but given a great performance, the character would be very compelling. Again, I think I was justified... Mikkelsen's Le Chiffre is an excellent foe, full of vulnerability, desperation, and menace.


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#63 Harmsway

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Posted 03 February 2008 - 10:53 PM

one of the sillier lines from the torture sequence was gone by the time they filmed the scene

What was the line?

The rather Brosnan-esque dialogue:

BOND: I knew you'd be a sore loser.
LE CHIFFRE: Me, "sore"?

It was simply unnecessary.

#64 kneelbeforezod

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Posted 04 February 2008 - 12:46 AM

I think a lot of people hear "twice as much action" and a) take it a bit literally, and b ) assume that it means multiple action scenes on the scale of the crane fight or the Miami airport scene. In reality it could mean more compact, smaller scale fist fights etc, something like the stairwell scene in CR.

Anyway, I haven't heard anything yet to stop me hoping/thinking that QoS will be The Empire Strikes Back to CR's Star Wars.

Edited by kneelbeforezod, 04 February 2008 - 12:48 AM.