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[Vauxhall]

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Possible 'Quantum of Solace' Opening Sequence Details

SPOILERS: Italian locations featured include Lago Di Garda and Verona...

Some confirmation of rumours that have been floating about in the last few days from James Bond Web Italia that it appears the pre-title sequence of QUANTUM OF SOLACE will certainly involve a car chase around the shores of Lake Garda:

The James Bond cast will be in Malcesine, in the province of Verona, from 15-21 April to shoot some breathtaking scenes between the resorts of Malcesine, Tempesta and Navene. The Veronese area has been chosen by the production as the location for the opening scene of the movie. There will be a pursuit at speeds of up to 200 km/h with overtaking and manoeuvres in a series of tunnels meaning that motorists and a truck will struggle to avoid the incident ultimately leading to an explosion at the end of the scene. This is therefore the spectacular scene from "Quantum of Solace" that will be carried out on Lake Garda. The production will then move to Limone in order to film a different part of the pursuit.

[Loomis]

Interesting. Presumably, the PTS will include the following (I'm putting this in spoiler tags as an extra precaution, especially as it reveals a plot detail that many would doubtless rather not know about):

Spoiler

- Bond's shooting and taking into custody of White, which may or may not be accompanied by a shootout with some of White's people.

- Bond and M interrogating White, who is killed by a member of "the organisation" before he can spill any more beans.

- A chase involving this horseracing festival thingy.

- And now this car chase.

So I guess that the days of the very long, very action-crammed PTS are well and truly back. I don't see how the above could be brought it at under 10-15 minutes. Eat your heart out, THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH.

[Harmsway]

Yup, though I'm actually thinking the car chase takes place prior to the rooftop stuff.

One very long, beefy PTS. I suppose that the PTS could be brought in about 8 minutes or so, depending on how long each section takes.

[MkB]

Interesting. Presumably, the PTS will include the following (I'm putting this in spoiler tags as an extra precaution, especially as it reveals a plot detail that many would doubtless rather not know about):

Spoiler

- Bond's shooting and taking into custody of White, which may or may not be accompanied by a shootout with some of White's people.

- Bond and M interrogating White, who is killed by a member of "the organisation" before he can spill any more beans.

- A chase involving this horseracing festival thingy.

- And now this car chase.

So I guess that the days of the very long, very action-crammed PTS are well and truly back. I don't see how the above could be brought it at under 10-15 minutes. Eat your heart out, THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH.

Just one little thing:

Spoiler

the Palio horserace is set in Siena, which is about 150 miles from the Lago di Garda (as the crow flies), so there should't be a contiunous action scene between the two locations

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[Harmsway]

Well, I suppose it is possible there are two separate scenes. A pre-title sequence with the car chase, and then the Siena rooftop chase following the art gallery scene.

But then again, probably not, since it was indicated in the MGW interview that the car chase heads into the streets of Siena, and then leads into the rooftop chase.

[MattofSteel]

I'd always assumed we'd get another short, mood-setting PTS and that the Siena chase was slightly later in the film. Post-credits action perhaps, a la CR.

[Harmsway]

I'd always assumed we'd get another short, mood-setting PTS and that the Siena chase was slightly later in the film. Post-credits action perhaps, a la CR.

It looks like we're getting the equivalent of the Madagscar chase opening CASINO ROYALE.

[Vauxhall]

Perhaps the car chase will be away from Mr White's villa around the banks of the lake. Bond has Mr White in his car trying to take him to Siena for further interrogation, and is chased by several of his organisation. Then after the title sequence, the movie opens on the interrogation leading to the chase sequence across Siena.

[MarcAngeDraco]

Interesting. Presumably, the PTS will include the following (I'm putting this in spoiler tags as an extra precaution, especially as it reveals a plot detail that many would doubtless rather not know about):

Spoiler

- Bond's shooting and taking into custody of White, which may or may not be accompanied by a shootout with some of White's people.

- Bond and M interrogating White, who is killed by a member of "the organisation" before he can spill any more beans.

- A chase involving this horseracing festival thingy.

- And now this car chase.

So I guess that the days of the very long, very action-crammed PTS are well and truly back. I don't see how the above could be brought it at under 10-15 minutes. Eat your heart out, THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH.

Seems too much to cram into the PTS, IMHO.

[marktmurphy]

So I guess that the days of the very long, very action-crammed PTS are well and truly back. I don't see how the above could be brought it at under 10-15 minutes. Eat your heart out, THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH.

I don't think we have to assume this all takes place in the PTS, if indeed any of it.

[5 BONDS]

Shades of RONIN the movie perhaps?

[Ace Roberts]

I could see the car chase - turning into a foot chase - easily as the first action sequence in the film. If you compare it time wise to the African Rundown sequence of Casino Royale (6 min 52 seconds) and break it into halves (car chase equals rundown in CR and footchase equal embassy shootout in CR) it's comprable.

It would actually be a killer opening IMHO.

[Harmsway]

I could see the car chase - turning into a foot chase - easily as the first action sequence in the film. If you compare it time wise to the African Rundown sequence of Casino Royale (6 min 52 seconds) and break it into halves (car chase equals rundown in CR and footchase equal embassy shootout in CR) it's comprable.

Exactly.

It would actually be a killer opening IMHO.

I agree.

[Royal Dalton]

I think...

Spoiler

The film opens with Bond bringing Mr White into the underground safe house in Siena .

After a bit of interrogation, White spills a few secrets. Then a saboteur blows a hole in the underground well, flooding the building, and drowning Mr White.

Bond chases the saboteur across the rooftops during the horse race. Then they jump in their cars, and speed off through the streets and tunnels, finishing up at this lake, where the saboteur ends up turning his car into a fireball.

Then into the title sequence.

[Harmsway]

I think...

Spoiler

The film opens with Bond bringing Mr White into the underground safe house in Siena .

After a bit of interrogation, White spills a few secrets. Then a saboteur blows a hole in the underground well, flooding the building, and drowning Mr White.

Bond chases the saboteur across the rooftops during the horse race. Then they jump in their cars, and speed off through the streets and tunnels, finishing up at this lake, where the saboteur ends up turning his car into a fireball.

Then into the title sequence.

Everything about that sounds fantastic - that makes the best sense out of everything we've heard (BTW, why are we using spoiler tags in the spoiler forum?).

[Agent 76]

I think...

Spoiler

The film opens with Bond bringing Mr White into the underground safe house in Siena .

After a bit of interrogation, White spills a few secrets. Then a saboteur blows a hole in the underground well, flooding the building, and drowning Mr White.

Bond chases the saboteur across the rooftops during the horse race. Then they jump in their cars, and speed off through the streets and tunnels, finishing up at this lake, where the saboteur ends up turning his car into a fireball.

Then into the title sequence.

makes sense to me. It sounds great, a good/ well done car chase is always exciting to watch.

[Ace Roberts]

I think...

Spoiler

The film opens with Bond bringing Mr White into the underground safe house in Siena .

After a bit of interrogation, White spills a few secrets. Then a saboteur blows a hole in the underground well, flooding the building, and drowning Mr White.

Bond chases the saboteur across the rooftops during the horse race. Then they jump in their cars, and speed off through the streets and tunnels, finishing up at this lake, where the saboteur ends up turning his car into a fireball.

Then into the title sequence.

Everything about that sounds fantastic - that makes the best sense out of everything we've heard (BTW, why are we using spoiler tags in the spoiler forum?).

Excellent deduction - and I agree about why the spoiler button in the spoiler section. Seems odd.

[CM007]

Well I

[Mr. Blofeld]

So I guess that the days of the very long, very action-crammed PTS are well and truly back. I don't see how the above could be brought it at under 10-15 minutes. Eat your heart out, THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH.

Oh, no; it's Apted all over again!

[Royal Dalton]

[quote name='CM007' post='832399' date='1 February 2008 - 23:32']Oh and before I head off into the sunset don

[Harmsway]

[quote name='CM007' post='832399' date='1 February 2008 - 17:32']I will tell you this I was stoked about Marc Forster directing when he was announced but now I

[Qwerty]

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Possible 'Quantum of Solace' Opening Sequence Details

SPOILERS: Italian locations featured include Lago Di Garda and Verona...

[tdalton]

It does seem as though we're in for a longer PTS, which is quite a shame, IMO. I was never more satisfied with a pre-title sequence than I was with the one in Casino Royale. It was short, to the point, set the mood for the film, and was quite possibly the second greatest three minutes in the history of the franchise just behind Bond's interrogation of Pushkin in TLD. It does seem as though, from reading all of the action sequences that are supposed to be taking place in the film along with the comments from the production team that this film will feature twice as much action than CR, that this is going to be an action with little room for character development. If there are as many action sequences in this film as we're hearing that there are, and the film is indeed 2 hours, then we may be looking at a return to the Brosnan Era style of Bond film, which is a terrible shame.

[JP007]

I hope not. I really don

[tdalton]

I hope that they don't make the same mistakes that have been made in the past few films either, but I can't help but reach the conclusion that this film is going to be wall to wall action just like the Brosnan films and the first hour of CR. We've been down the action hero route with Bond for over a decade now. It's time to take the character somewhere more interesting, and having twice as much action as CR in a significantly shorter film is not the way to go about achieving this. Also, returning the style of the PTS to that of the awful TWINE is not a good move either, IMO.

[JP007]

I hope that they don't make the same mistakes that have been made in the past few films either, but I can't help but reach the conclusion that this film is going to be wall to wall action just like the Brosnan films and the first hour of CR. We've been down the action hero route with Bond for over a decade now. It's time to take the character somewhere more interesting, and having twice as much action as CR in a significantly shorter film is not the way to go about achieving this. Also, returning the style of the PTS to that of the awful TWINE is not a good move either, IMO.

I agree. But we really dont

[tdalton]

The film almost has to be wall to wall action to fit in all the action sequences that we're hearing about. This PTS in and of itself seems like it's going to be full of action, and could rival TWINE for the longest PTS in the franchise. Also, if there's twice as many action sequences in QoS as there was in CR, with a running time that's supposedly going to be almost a half hour shorter than CR, then that takes away from the character exposition that I was really looking forward to. I've had my fill of the action hero Bond. I got that with the Brosnan films and Casino Royale. With the dream team of talent assembled for this film, I'm expecting something more than The World Is Not Enough: Part II.

It's disappointing that every time there appears to be some reason to believe that this film might actually turn out decent, information like this information about the PTS comes out and dashes those hopes.

[Harmsway]

Also, if there's twice as many action sequences in QoS as there was in CR, with a running time that's supposedly going to be almost a half hour shorter than CR, then that takes away from the character exposition that I was really looking forward to.

Featuring twice as many action sequences as CASINO ROYALE (assuming that's a true statement, when it was really only an off-the-cuff estimation) is THUNDERBALL, and I rarely hear people complain about the action content of that film.

[Qwerty]

I think...

Spoiler

The film opens with Bond bringing Mr White into the underground safe house in Siena .

After a bit of interrogation, White spills a few secrets. Then a saboteur blows a hole in the underground well, flooding the building, and drowning Mr White.

Bond chases the saboteur across the rooftops during the horse race. Then they jump in their cars, and speed off through the streets and tunnels, finishing up at this lake, where the saboteur ends up turning his car into a fireball.

Then into the title sequence.

That all seems like it could work quite well to me.

[tdalton]

Also, if there's twice as many action sequences in QoS as there was in CR, with a running time that's supposedly going to be almost a half hour shorter than CR, then that takes away from the character exposition that I was really looking forward to.

Featuring twice as many action sequences as CASINO ROYALE (assuming that's a true statement, when it was really only an off-the-cuff estimation) is THUNDERBALL, and I rarely hear people complain about the action content of that film.

It depends also on how well the action scenes are done. In THUNDERBALL, the action was fairly well done. In CASINO ROYALE, not so much. If the action in QUANTUM OF SOLACE is as over-the-top as scenes like the free-running sequence, then it's not going to sit very well with me. If it's along the lines of THUNDERBALL, then it will be tolerable, but I do think that they really need to cut back significantly on the action sequences in the future. I've had my fill of action hero Bond and am ready for something more substantial from EON, especially given the dream team of talent assembled for QUANTUM OF SOLACE.