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[Simon]

I was going to see it after they cast the Bond girls.

The rest of the production, however, doesn't appear all that interesting.

The irony is that you are going to have to see it if only to prove how right(?) you are.

[Double-Oh Agent]

I don't know what Bond 22 has in store for us, but I don't see how it will be have a direct world domination plot. If these set of movies about the mysterious Oganization is, in fact, a trilogy, which we all believe, then if we get a direct world domination plot, it will be in Bond 23 for the big finale.

I would imagine that Bond 22 will be about Bond doing some detective work and working his way up the Organization's food chain so to speak to learn who's behind them and what they are up to, and in the process he learns he must prevent them from assassinating a major political figure(s), instigating a little war between two neighboring countries that don't like each other, blowing up the Panama Canal, or some such thing--each of which could destabilize the world's economy and achieve the Organization's financial aims.

[Skudor]

I wish someone would explain what 'taking over the world economy' means. It must be the most vacuous, nonsensical concept I've ever heard. Unless it involves turning the entire world into a communist state.

A much more likely plot is, as I've already mentioned, linking terrorism and money making: using terrorist incidents to make money on through market volatility (e.g. blow up a plane prototype and make money on the manufacturer's share price dropping).

This can be incredibly sinister (depending on how sinister the terrorist incident is) and re-used, particularly if the culprit is always the same organisation.

Le Chiffre tried it in Casino Royale so there's no reason why the Organisation doesn't try it themselves.

[blueman]

And Goldfinger tried it in GF, also the old SPECTRE was generally trying to destabilize something for heaping big wads of cash. Old news.

[Major Tallon]

I don't know what Bond 22 has in store for us, but I don't see how it will be have a direct world domination plot. If these set of movies about the mysterious Oganization is, in fact, a trilogy, which we all believe, then if we get a direct world domination plot, it will be in Bond 23 for the big finale.

I would imagine that Bond 22 will be about Bond doing some detective work and working his way up the Organization's food chain so to speak to learn who's behind them and what they are up to, and in the process he learns he must prevent them from assassinating a major political figure(s), instigating a little war between two neighboring countries that don't like each other, blowing up the Panama Canal, or some such thing--each of which could destabilize the world's economy and achieve the Organization's financial aims.

This is some of the best speculation that I've heard on this subject. These sound like very interesting plot ideas, ones that could give the villains a major objective without being in the worn-out "world domination" mode.

Great suggestions!

[Byron]

I don't know what Bond 22 has in store for us, but I don't see how it will be have a direct world domination plot. If these set of movies about the mysterious Oganization is, in fact, a trilogy, which we all believe, then if we get a direct world domination plot, it will be in Bond 23 for the big finale.

I would imagine that Bond 22 will be about Bond doing some detective work and working his way up the Organization's food chain so to speak to learn who's behind them and what they are up to, and in the process he learns he must prevent them from assassinating a major political figure(s), instigating a little war between two neighboring countries that don't like each other, blowing up the Panama Canal, or some such thing--each of which could destabilize the world's economy and achieve the Organization's financial aims.

This is some of the best speculation that I've heard on this subject. These sound like very interesting plot ideas, ones that could give the villains a major objective without being in the worn-out "world domination" mode.

Great suggestions!

Destabilizing the world's economy is impossible. I share Skudor and TDalton's concerns about taking the road down the path of world domination whether economic or not. As for blowing up the Panama canal or assasinating a political figure, although interesting its hardly the end of the world. More likely is General Medrano instigating a military coup / takeover like in Burma.

I would also much rather see plot ideas such as this one from LALD - that of antiquities smuggling to fund illicit activities, i mean look at how the museums in Iraq were looted of all their treasures during the chaos of fighting. There are still missing artworks and treasures from WW2 even hidden gold (as in Octopussy the short story).

Someone suggested a plotline of human trafficking - women used for prostitution / domestic slavery etc. This is also a realistic plotline and it can be toned down for the film.

So let's hope we don't get the same old same old tired themes.

[tdalton]

Destabilizing the world's economy is impossible. I share Skudor and TDalton's concerns about taking the road down the path of world domination whether economic or not. As for blowing up the Panama canal or assasinating a political figure, although interesting its hardly the end of the world. More likely is General Medrano instigating a military coup / takeover like in Burma.

I would also much rather see plot ideas such as this one from LALD - that of antiquities smuggling to fund illicit activities, i mean look at how the museums in Iraq were looted of all their treasures during the chaos of fighting. There are still missing artworks and treasures from WW2 even hidden gold (as in Octopussy the short story).

Someone suggested a plotline of human trafficking - women used for prostitution / domestic slavery etc. This is also a realistic plotline and it can be toned down for the film.

So let's hope we don't get the same old same old tired themes.

Agreed. I would much rather see some original themes in Bond 22 than some of the old, tired themes that we've seen in the past 21 films of the franchise. I could see smuggling fitting into the plotline in an interesting way, but I'd rather see something other than drugs being smuggled. Perhaps a more realistic take on the DAF material or have some other valuable good being smuggled for monetary gain on the part of Mr. White's organization. As you said, and I've agreed with other posters in other threads, human trafficking could be a plot point for the film to use as well. It would be a great way for the Bond franchise to make itself very much relevant again by shedding some light on a particularly awful crime that is not often discussed or depicted in mainstream media, and is therefore not thought of when it is something that should be addressed so that these operations could be shut down in the future. I just think that there is so many interesting possibilities for a Bond film that even the possibility of having the film even venture towards a domination-style plot has me worried. Of course, it may not end up as a domination plot, but new themes other than trying to corner a particular market (which has been done several times before in the franchise) or trying to take over the world would be nice to see in the franchise, especially in light of the new, realistic direction EON has decided to take the franchise. As I've said previously, there is just too much talent involved with this film for them to be going back and doing things that we've already seen before, and hopefully they won't be doing this and hopefully Bond 22 will be a very interesting and fresh direction for the Bond franchise.

[00Twelve]

I would also much rather see plot ideas such as this one from LALD - that of antiquities smuggling to fund illicit activities, i mean look at how the museums in Iraq were looted of all their treasures during the chaos of fighting. There are still missing artworks and treasures from WW2 even hidden gold (as in Octopussy the short story).

Well, I've gone past the point of sounding like a broken record on that subject. It's probably getting closer to nails on a chalkboard by this point. There's no reason in the world that the LALD plot couldn't be updated for today's world (and be a fitting chapter in a bigger story about a worldwide terror network).

[Royal Dalton]

Someone suggested a plotline of human trafficking - women used for prostitution / domestic slavery etc. This is also a realistic plotline and it can be toned down for the film.

So let's hope we don't get the same old same old tired themes.

I think human trafficking's a bit dark for a Bond film. Even a modern one. I could imagine it being mentioned as one of the group's nefarious activities. But not as the main plotline.

Money laundering's my hunch for this one.

[Harry Fawkes]

What's that? Daniel Craig is going to play Blofeld in Bond 22? How can that be? I thought Craig was signed up to play Bond Now I'm really confused lads. This can't be true surely . And what's this? Blofeld is Bond's long lost son from Bond's relationship with M's daughter?

Damn, guys, things seem to be getting curiouser and curiouser by the minute


Harry Fawkes MRQ

[Byron]

I don't know what Bond 22 has in store for us, but I don't see how it will be have a direct world domination plot. If these set of movies about the mysterious Oganization is, in fact, a trilogy, which we all believe, then if we get a direct world domination plot, it will be in Bond 23 for the big finale.

I would imagine that Bond 22 will be about Bond doing some detective work and working his way up the Organization's food chain so to speak to learn who's behind them and what they are up to, and in the process he learns he must prevent them from assassinating a major political figure(s), instigating a little war between two neighboring countries that don't like each other, blowing up the Panama Canal, or some such thing--each of which could destabilize the world's economy and achieve the Organization's financial aims.

This is some of the best speculation that I've heard on this subject. These sound like very interesting plot ideas, ones that could give the villains a major objective without being in the worn-out "world domination" mode.

Great suggestions!

Destabilizing the world's economy is impossible. I share Skudor and TDalton's concerns about taking the road down the path of world domination whether economic or not. As for blowing up the Panama canal or assasinating a political figure, although interesting its hardly the end of the world. More likely is General Medrano instigating a military coup / takeover like in Burma.

I would also much rather see plot ideas such as this one from LALD - that of antiquities smuggling to fund illicit activities, i mean look at how the museums in Iraq were looted of all their treasures during the chaos of fighting. There are still missing artworks and treasures from WW2 even hidden gold (as in Octopussy the short story).

Someone suggested a plotline of human trafficking - women used for prostitution / domestic slavery etc. This is also a realistic plotline and it can be toned down for the film.

So let's hope we don't get the same old same old tired themes.

Sorry to bring up an old thread but my prediction about a coup was correct. The plot sounds intriguing so far.