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[stromberg]

Biggest load of bogus I've heard in a long time.

Oh boy, someone must be really desperate for news

[Marketto007]

Here's an emerald.



And Here's another



What color is an emerald ?



What colors are ALL emeralds ?



Now, what is the name of the guy played by Mathieu Almaric, again ?

I'm not saying it's the title... But I wouldn't rule out it's actually Property of a Lady except in France. Where the original novel name will be used...

Excelent mate. Excelent.

xxx

[Harry Fawkes]

[quote name='Shrublands' post='821387' date='12 January 2008 - 17:29'][quote name='whitesox' post='821379' date='12 January 2008 - 16:22']I'm French so keep quiet, they only say that it's a rumoured title (they add a "?" to this title),[/quote]

Yes, and all we are doing is demonstrating how this foolish

[sharpshooter]

I would very much prefer the translation of the title, 'The Property of a Lady'. Emerald Sphere?, what a joke!

[blueman]

"Rubbish" Fleming titles haven't stopped EON before:

The Spy Who Lved Me? Bleh.

For Your Eyes Only? Double-bleh.

A View To A Kill? Oh-my-freakin-God.

Even (for some) the Holy Grail of Bond films:

On Her Majesty's Secret Service? Not qute "Thunderball," is it?

"The Property of a Lady" could certainly be used for a Bond film title, sure. It would then, like TSWLM, become associated with the film as much--if not more so--as the original Fleming story (and likely become a classic ).

[deth]

what's wrong with a View to a Kill? For Your Eyes only?

they both suggest danger, and sensuality... perfect for Bond.

[blueman]

IMO they sound silly, like grade school attempts at Bond titles. I recognize the Fleming in them, but not everything that came out of him was gold. He had bleh material and much better material, like all writers. JMHO.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

Remember Beyond the Ice?

[Agent 76]

I like Risico , more.

[WC]

IMO they sound silly, like grade school attempts at Bond titles. I recognize the Fleming in them, but not everything that came out of him was gold. He had bleh material and much better material, like all writers. JMHO.

Well FYEO would hardly be a grade school attempt. It's not like some kids just cobbled a few words together which sounded vaguely Bondian, like "Eyes" "Only" or "Your" etc. Isn't it an actual governmental term for classified information similar to For Official Use Only or Top Secret?

And the title "(From) A View to a Kill" comes from some poem doesn't it? From a something to a something etc? Or however the poem goes.

[triviachamp]

OHMSS is also an reference to an official term. AVTAK dropped the "From" which made the title ridiculous. The full term in a reference to a hunting song.

Surely you could bitch about TB being a grade school pulp title and that it doesn't make any sense. "He strikes like Thunderball" anyone?

[zencat]

What a cluster piece of reporting this was.

[Single-O-Seven]

What a cluster piece of reporting this was.

Language, Zen, language! Not that I blame you. I completely agree. I think so many are dying for the title that they're beginning to grasp at straws, even if they're straws that have already been repeatedly grasped at for the last two years.

[blueman]

I guess my point is, a lot of Fleming's titles don't stand up well out of context of Bond, just like some of his writing is better than other bits. FYEO or AVTAK in another context would be getting heaps of scorn as daft thriller titles, we only make excuses for them because they're Bond. JMHO. I imagine there are some Fleming titles some fans prefer over others, but really the only ones that stick to me as Whoa! are like GF, LALD, YOLT, TLD, FRWL (but only with the spy context, as a Harlequin romance title it's kinda weak, LOL), maybe DN but sometimes it strikes me as funny. MR is a nice attempt that misses the mark IMO; DAF is boring; I like OHMSS but again only in context, as a phrase it's cumbersome and doesn't say anything really; CR I like because it's quaint, like a lot of Fleming's early writing. TMWTGG I've never been sure how I feel about it, some days it's genius some days it's crap; TSWLM has got to be the most rejected romance title of all time before Fleming used it for his anti-thriller spy novel...weird no matter how you slice it; and the bad pun that is OP is better left undiscussed. TPOAL is middle-of-the-road Fleming for me, not bad at all just not all that memorable. Better than TES, but not by much. And neither pack the simple punch of...OO7.

Or, everything the man wrote is golden.

[K1Bond007]

Alright.. which one you guys made this up and sent it in to this gullible French newspaper?

[Miss Goodnight]

The Emerald Sphere - definitely not.
Property of a Lady - doesn't anyone remember that in Octopussy (the film), the Faberge egg was called 'Property of a Lady'? .. Surely, EON would not repeat themselves...

Then again, if the rumour that Bond 22 is loosely based on Risco is true, EON would be repeating themselves, as that plotline was already used in For Your Eyes Only.

I suppose we will just have to wait and see...

[Royal Dalton]

I like OHMSS but again only in context, as a phrase it's cumbersome and doesn't say anything really

Why should it have to say anything, though? It's a pun title, and a good one at that.

I'm pretty sure Fleming knew he wasn't writing Shakespeare, when he was banging his Bond books out. They're pulp fiction, and the titles reflect that.

[zencat]

The Emerald Sphere - definitely not.
Property of a Lady - doesn't anyone remember that in Octopussy (the film), the Faberge egg was called 'Property of a Lady'? .. Surely, EON would not repeat themselves...

I recall Michael Wilson was asked in some interview about using POAL and he said they wouldn't because they already used it in Octopussy.

I almost wish they would use POAL so I'd be free of this rumor. I swear, this rumor goes all the way back to the 80s. And, no, Dalton's 3rd film was not going to be called POAL (at least I've never seen any real Eon evidence of this). It was fanboy speculation back then just as it is today, except the fanboys wrote for Starlog and that gave it an "in print" legitimacy that has stuck.

At least them using Colonel Moon in DAD put an end to the Colonel Sun rumors.

Having said all that, I don't hate POAL as a title and I could live with it.

[Qwerty]

Surely the most entertaining bit of Bond news today.

Crap title.

[Gobi-1]

I have it from a reliable source that the title will be...

...Fire and Ice

Hmm, are you sure?! My source told me that it was 'Beyond the Ice'...

Since the film takes place after Casino Royale it will actually be called "Beyond The Dice."

[blueman]

I like OHMSS but again only in context, as a phrase it's cumbersome and doesn't say anything really

Why should it have to say anything, though? It's a pun title, and a good one at that.

I'm pretty sure Fleming knew he wasn't writing Shakespeare, when he was banging his Bond books out. They're pulp fiction, and the titles reflect that.

Agreed. But that doesn't eliminate all shades of grey in Fleming's output. Does it? There's so-so Fleming and better Fleming, just as there's so-so Shakespeare and better Shakespeare...can't think of anyone who's created for a living where their output has been uniform within their chosen field, generally there's an arc up and unless they kick at their peak there's at least a bit of an arc down. Not to mention the rises and falls in between. Peaks, valleys, thrilling drop-offs, Fleming's writing has all of that. Also some so-so titles and some better titles.

EDIT: Better leave Ed Wood out of this discussion, he'll level the bell curve flat!

Edited by blueman, 13 January 2008 - 02:59 AM.

[WC]

I have it from a reliable source that the title will be...

...Fire and Ice

Hmm, are you sure?! My source told me that it was 'Beyond the Ice'...

Since the film takes place after Casino Royale it will actually be called "Beyond The Dice."

If it's about Blofeld and his bald head again, maybe it will be called "Beyond the Lice".

[tdalton]

Definitely an awful title, although I might be willing to accept it over the other rumored title ("007").

[Jim]

Surely, EON would not repeat themselves...

You've seen a James Bond film, haven't you?

[Tim007]

I have it from a reliable source that the title will be...

...Fire and Ice

Hmm, are you sure?! My source told me that it was 'Beyond the Ice'...

Since the film takes place after Casino Royale it will actually be called "Beyond The Dice."

If it's about Blofeld and his bald head again, maybe it will be called "Beyond the Lice".

Let's finish that stuff. I think we are beyond the lies.

[stamper]

OK first, you need to get it squared : "The Emerald Sphere", if this is the case, would only be the FRENCH title, AVTAK was called "DANGEROUSLY YOURS", now imagine this board in 1984, with the news coming that the last Moore 007 flick is called "DANGEROUSLY YOURS"... what you're reaction would be ? Or that Living Daylights is actually "FROM BERLIN WITH LOVE" (how the novel was translated) !

So now that we got that out of the way, there's no way the title could be "The Emerald Sphere" anywhere else but france, assuming that is the case... "The Emerald Sphere" is the french novel translation of THE PROPERTY OF A LADY.

Mathieu Almaric plays bad guy Maurice GREEN.

An emerald is GREEN.

Not only it can be guessed that PROPERTY OF A LADY might be the title then... I can also think that 007 might be tracing the bad guy Maurice Green by attending a Sotheby's like auction and outbidding him or trying to for an EMERALD rather than a Faberge egg... Mr Green is probably, like Goldfinger, obsessed with anything green an valuable, hence emeralds... Can someone shed light on the recent english location where Craig was snapped as Bond ? Are they auctions in that building from time to time ?

As for EON not repeating themselves... come on... you guys must have seen the same 007 movies than I did.!

PS : As I said before, PROPERTY OF A LADY allows for a 007 like logo just like Casino Royale. It would be the perfect candidate for a title, studios love these kind of .

[DamnCoffee]

Surely, EON would not repeat themselves...

Well, you could say that The World is not Enough repeated itself since the motto was used in [film=99]On Her Majesty

[007Travis]

Ugh.

Sounds like it would be starring Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner.

[Mr. Du Pont]

The Emerald Sphere - definitely not.
Property of a Lady - doesn't anyone remember that in Octopussy (the film), the Faberge egg was called 'Property of a Lady'? .. Surely, EON would not repeat themselves...

Then again, if the rumour that Bond 22 is loosely based on Risco is true, EON would be repeating themselves, as that plotline was already used in For Your Eyes Only.

I suppose we will just have to wait and see...

You're forgetting THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH. It was Bond's family motto in ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE and then recycled as Bond 19's title.

[HildebrandRarity]

As I said before, PROPERTY OF A LADY allows for a 007 like logo just like Casino Royale. It would be the perfect candidate for a title, studios love these...

It's a good point Herr Stamper.

BTW, the man who just interviewed Daniel Craig for rottentomatoes (which gave CR a 93 out of 100 in late 2006) says this:

Joe Utichi writes:
on Jan 13 2008 01:14 PM

I think there's a title. I just think Daniel didn't want to tell me what it was. The grin on his face as he said there was no title was as conspiratorial as they get.