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[chuck3]

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Edited by chuck3, 25 October 2008 - 02:07 PM.

[chuck3]

I've started a new thread regarding the watch that will appear in Bond 23. You can find in the "Bond 23 and Beyond" topic/forum. http://debrief.comma...showtopic=51276

[Double-0-7]

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Looks terrific! How long have you had it?

[chuck3]

i bought it in bermuda on my honeymoon, august 2007. thanks for the compliments

[double o ego]

Anyone with an automatic watch, I'm requesting your counsel. My omega planet ocean keeps on losing time, sometimes upto 2 or minutes a day. Is this normal? I'm sick and tired of having to keep adjusting my time nearly on a daily basis. Is there anything I can do??

[Dell Deaton]

Anyone with an automatic watch, I'm requesting your counsel. My omega planet ocean keeps on losing time, sometimes upto 2 or minutes a day. Is this normal? I'm sick and tired of having to keep adjusting my time nearly on a daily basis. Is there anything I can do??

Let's see what we can do here.

First, a few questions.

• How old is the watch? Did you buy it new or used?
• Do you have any tracking on past performance? Is this a recent phenomenon, or do you know?
• What are your wearing habits for the watch? Do you wear it 24/7, take it off at night? If, when you take it off, for how long? In what position does it rest (eg, dial up, on its side)?
• Which model number Planet Ocean are we talking about here?

The short answer to your question is no, it should not be this far out of specification. The model hasn't been out that long, so this would generally be true of even the oldest of the Planet Oceans. Does it happen with mechanicals? Yes.

It's tough to get perspective, because most people who think they're tracking precision-accuracy simply check the time against an "absolute" source (eg, atomic clock) one day, then check it some number of days later, and do the math. What this misses is cyclical deviation, and the fact that even if you were to check your watch for one minute right now, you'd see it vary by a common 0.75 seconds as the second-hand went around the dial.

Here's a link to some charts you may find helpful in this regard: LINK

In the meantime, I'll watch for your reply here and try to respond further as the weekend unfolds.

[double o ego]

Thanks for your reply. The watch is a few months old, brand new. When I first got it, it worked fine, there wasn’t a problem. I wasn’t losing time but then I dropped it and the minute and hour hands loosened, which I got repaired and is fine now but am now victim to losing minutes in the day. As for how often I wear it, I wear it all the time except for when I go into bath/shower, so it’s off for about maybe 30minutes a day. When off, I usually let it rest on its back or on its side. However, I noticed that it gained some minutes when I was in a hot room (the radiator on at full blast) So, I’m guessing temperature may play a part. Btw, the model is 45.5mm PO.
Thanks.

[Dell Deaton]

Thanks for your reply. The watch is a few months old, brand new. When I first got it, it worked fine, there wasn’t a problem. I wasn’t losing time but then I dropped it and the minute and hour hands loosened, which I got repaired and is fine now but am now victim to losing minutes in the day. As for how often I wear it, I wear it all the time except for when I go into bath/shower, so it’s off for about maybe 30minutes a day. When off, I usually let it rest on its back or on its side. However, I noticed that it gained some minutes when I was in a hot room (the radiator on at full blast) So, I’m guessing temperature may play a part. Btw, the model is 45.5mm PO.
Thanks.

Okay. Your watch is doing what's called "running outside of COSC specifications," which Omega has guaranteed it to do. Correcting that will be covered by your warranty, which, if memory services, is 3 years from date of purchase on the Planet Ocean.

The first, least invasive remedy at this point would be to open the case and adjust the regulation. There is actually a spot to do that. This is something most Authorized Omega Dealers can do, but I wouldn't have them do it. The major concern, among other things, is water tight seal integrity; I'm just not satisifed w/ that at a local level. There's probably a service center near you, and there's definitely one in your country - that you can either contact and send the watch to directly, or have it sent through your AD.

You'll be w/out your watch for a while, unfortunately. But the short term pain is not worth avoiding to have it addressed more quickly.

That said, did you actually buy it from an Authorized Dealer, or otherwise? We have some time on this; nothing you can do anyway now until Monday.

[double o ego]

I bought it from a department store, selfridges to be exact. I've given it to my friend's dad who owns a watch shop and knows everything about movement and all that stuff you clearly know of and which I don't. He said he'll sort it out for me and told me a whole bunch of stuff that could be wrong with it BUT I'm no watch expert. He said I should pop down on monday to get the latest news and what's up with the watch.
I feel so naked and somewhat isolated without my precious time piece. : (

[Dell Deaton]

I bought it from a department store, selfridges to be exact. I've given it to my friend's dad who owns a watch shop and knows everything about movement and all that stuff you clearly know of and which I don't. He said he'll sort it out for me and told me a whole bunch of stuff that could be wrong with it BUT I'm no watch expert. He said I should pop down on monday to get the latest news and what's up with the watch.
I feel so naked and somewhat isolated without my precious time piece. : (

Hmm-- Okay, do let me know how it turns out.

Meantime, let me just add that the coaxial movement in your watch is not exactly a garden variety escapement. W/out knowing anything more than what you've shared about your watch shop resource (and intending no disrespect), this isn't the sort of thing I'd recommend anyone do. Using your own word here, "precious," we are, after all, talking about a $3,000 watch, give or take.

There is no question in my mind that if this were a watch I owned, it would go back to Omega for whatever is needed here. I would not have the caseback opened (thus the "red dot" seal broken) now. Furthermore, any adjustment, regulation on your watch is going to require some observation period to confirm what's done. That take time, and it's time well spent; time you want them to spend on your watch.

[double o ego]

I just hope I havnt cocked this up because even now, I'm in a really bad mood now that I'm without my watch. I know it's me being childish but I just can't help it.

[Dell Deaton]

I just hope I havnt cocked this up because even now, I'm in a really bad mood now that I'm without my watch. I know it's me being childish but I just can't help it.

Doubt it; these are pretty tough beasts!

That said, describe the circumstances of when you dropped it. How hard? How high? Onto what sort of a surface?

[double o ego]

Hey Dell and to the rest of you, I just got my watch back yesterday!

It actually looks better than when I bought it. The movement is great, havn't lost any time, not even a second. I'm just over the moon. The guy clearly did more than what was required of him or he got me a brand new PO (which I doubt) but everything about the watch just feels so brand new. Have I been away from my watch that long, it's been like, a week. Anyway, thanks for the help and advice. I'll be taking care of my baby, hell I'm not even gonna breathe on it.

[Dell Deaton]

Hey Dell and to the rest of you, I just got my watch back yesterday!

It actually looks better than when I bought it. The movement is great, havn't lost any time, not even a second. I'm just over the moon. The guy clearly did more than what was required of him or he got me a brand new PO (which I doubt) but everything about the watch just feels so brand new. Have I been away from my watch that long, it's been like, a week. Anyway, thanks for the help and advice. I'll be taking care of my baby, hell I'm not even gonna breathe on it.

This is great news, double o ego; it was my pleasure to walk along side of you through some of the hold-your-breath moments in this.

Although I'm not associated w/ any watch brand or dealer (must not show favorites! ), and don't presume to speak on anyone's behalf, I do feel it's important to step up to concerns such as the ones you legitimately raised. Actually, that's part of how I choose the few Forums in which I participate: How do they demonstrate commitment to the community they ostensibly are creating?

Specific to the issue at hand, then, let me add my strong opinion that the Omega Planet Ocean is not designed to require babying. Not only should you feel comfortable breathing on it (or putting yourself in a situation where some lady friend is close enough to do so), but you can and should expect it to perform as a leading diver's watch. It's passed the tests and meets the specifications you see on its dial. The A/R coating will scratch; but that's not a functional issue.

Folks can get cynical about "product placement" in James Bond films. I've always looked at it as a reflection of the brilliant writing style Ian Fleming brought to these stories, the credibility it suggests. It also serves characterization. So, think of the Omega Planet Ocean in terms of the Daniel Craig interpretation of 007.

It's a reasonable fit.

Thanks for closing out this case in my files.

[double o ego]

Noted and thank you my friend.

[Dell Deaton]

Shifting gears here now, and furthering the idea of keeping this a lively, evergreen Thread where we can capture all sorts of James Bond watches, I'd like to share a little on a current project of mine.

The Sylvia Trench Watch

The first watch to appear on screen in an EON Productions James Bond film was not the Rolex Submariner. A lot of attention has been focused on that as "the original," so it amazes me that the real piece was missed. (Well, and there's a personal reason for this as well: It comes along w/ one of the all time classic Bond girls, Sylvia Trench. Oh, my!)

We actually see James Bond's wristwatch before we see James Bond himself, in the strategic Terence Young character reveal. This is about 7 minutes, 50 seconds into Dr. No. As you can see, it's a wristwatch with a light-colored dial, a smooth, perhaps domed crystal, and a thin, gold-colored case.

]http://www.jamesbondwatches.com/images/jbw007-DrNo-01a_small.jpg
More screen captures are here, along with discussion: LINK

Some have suggested or asked if it's not possible that this was a continuity error. Doesn't seem so. The watch appears not just in the Le Cercle casino scenes, but also in M's office, and Bond's bedroom.

In trying to identify this watch, should we start by looking for a Rolex model? Generally I'd have to say yes. Remember the quote from James Bond: The Legacy, where the authors describe the EON philosophy* going into Dr. No production.

Style was key to quickly communicating the character of Bond. If he was to represent the best the Western powers had to offer, he had to be surrounded by the best. 007 could not just drink vodka, it needed to be Smirnoff's; he could not just wear a watch, it needed to be a Rolex.

Beyond that, they also specifically identify this first watch, "the Sylvia Trench watch," as a Rolex.


More images are here, along with discussion: LINK

Further to the "watch as defining the character" discussion - and evidence that a diver's model is hardly a given - a very similar looking wristwatch appears a few films later, in You Only Live Twice. It may not be the same watch. But if it isn't, it certainly says something about another aspect of the style defining the James Bond character during the initial Sean Connery period.

http://www.jamesbond...T-c2-jbw007.jpg
More images are here, along with discussion: LINK

Thought this might be of interest to both the usual group of folks who see CBn as the leading James Bond Forum for watch discussions, as well as others who are only more generally interested in film characterizations. I know we haven't exactly wound down from Quantum of Solace debates; but we'll surely keep up a head of steam here on after, since 007 is truly timeless!
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*It's important here to differentiate this "mandate" as one that is sourced here from EON (which, if the only source, then must be considered to be free to change that "needed to be" into another brand, as they felt appropriate, including Hamilton, Seiko, Omega et cetera).

[Qwerty]

Now on the CBn main page...

'Bond Watches, James Bond Watches' Exhibit Planned For 2010

To be featured at National Watch and Clock Museum in Columbia, Pennsylvania

[HildebrandRarity]

Cool.

Where's Dell?

[Johnboy007]

That's not terribly far away. I might make an appearance.

[dogmanstar]

I don't want to be a wet blanket but . . . 2010? Cripes, I hope I still have all my teeth and am walking around by then!

[TheSaint]

Is Dell curating this exhibit?

[Professor Dent]

June 2010 - nothing like giving yourself a little lead time on the announcement. On the plus side, this is practically in my backyard.

[Donovan]

After reading the details of the exhibit it occurred to me that even though Rolex has traditionally been considered as Bond's watch, I could only think of 8 films where he is wearing one. And now Omega was been in 6 Bond films. Catching up.

[Sakhalin]

Oh wow, it's in Pennsylvania. I was thinking an exhibit like this would be in the U.K. or something. Pennsylvania is nonetheless closer to me than the U.K. so I too, might make an appearance. I was always fascinated by the Bond watches and what they did in the movies. Loved the magnetic watch from LALD.

[Dell Deaton]

I don't want to be a wet blanket but . . . 2010? Cripes, I hope I still have all my teeth and am walking around by then!

June 2010 - nothing like giving yourself a little lead time on the announcement. On the plus side, this is practically in my backyard.

The information I originally passed along to Devin for this news item was from a planning schedule through 2012. It's actually not so much for visitor attraction at this point (at least not insofar as the James Bond watches exhibit is concerned), as it is for keeping NAWCC members informed, alerting corporations to sponsorship opportunities, and, of course, making arrangements for pieces to be exhibited.

If you think about it, this display would make a great anchor for James Bond get togethers on this side of the pond. I am also anticipating that there will be a lot of tangent interests for either longer- or shorter-term presentations, such as vehicles and the so called "James Bond lifestyle" associations. Maybe events or film showings (they have a great theatre there).

CBn'ers aren't "required" to start marking their calendars now. But I just think it's neat that we can, that we've got this (among other things) to keep James Bond visibility high between films and books.

Is Dell curating this exhibit?

Actually, the NAWCC has asked me to serve as "Guest Curator" on this exhibit, and I've accepted. It's a great honor.

Edited by Dell Deaton, 24 December 2008 - 06:56 PM.

[Dell Deaton]

Turns out Ian Fleming actually did have a specific model in mind when writing about "Rolex" as the personal choice of James Bond. One of the leading magazines for collectors, WatchTime, has devoted a major feature article to this in its February 2009 issue (which some subscribers have already received, I'm told).



Although it wouldn't be right for me to weigh in on this just yet, I didn't want those of you who might be interested to miss out. It also wouldn't surprise me if we saw some additional mainstream coverage related to a wide variety of James Bond watches as the year unfolds.

Meantime, here's their website: LINK

[plankattack]

Turns out Ian Fleming actually did have a specific model in mind when writing about "Rolex" as the personal choice of James Bond. One of the leading magazines for collectors, WatchTime, has devoted a major feature article to this in its February 2009 issue (which some subscribers have already received, I'm told).



Although it wouldn't be right for me to weigh in on this just yet, I didn't want those of you who might be interested to miss out. It also wouldn't surprise me if we saw some additional mainstream coverage related to a wide variety of James Bond watches as the year unfolds.

Meantime, here's their website: LINK

Just wanted to say to all Bond watch fans out there - I read this article in the store recently and can highly recommend it. Very informative and well-written, by someone clearly a Bond fan......

[Dell Deaton]

Turns out Ian Fleming actually did have a specific model in mind when writing about "Rolex" as the personal choice of James Bond....

Just wanted to say to all Bond watch fans out there - I read this article in the store recently and can highly recommend it. Very informative and well-written, by someone clearly a Bond fan......

Thank you.

And since I've come to view this as the "all things James Bond watches" Thread on CBn, I'd also like to mention that I'm going to start releasing updates to my complete list of 007 timepieces in EON Productions films.

LINK

At present, only a few of the Story column thumbnails are LINKed to "Reference Images" pages (eg, "Sylvia Trench Watch" from Dr. No); same w/ the Certainty column, which will bring up "Quick Facts" summaries for each (eg, "Château de Chantilly Seiko" from A View to a Kill). I wanted to guage reaction and tweak a few things before going forward. But there's been a bit of a push through January, so I wanted to let you all know what was up.

[agentjamesbond007]

Right now, I have an Omega Speedmaster. (the blue one)

I think I will upload a picture later on.

[MkB]

Stumbled upon this, and thought it may interest some of you:
James Bond style NATO and ZULU straps for sale at a store selling tactical equipment:
http://countycomm.com/bond.htm