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#31 Righty007

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 11:10 PM

One question: what are the formats supported by the Kindle? Thanks for your review!

From Wikipedia: "Although it supports unprotected Mobipocket books (.MOBI, .PRC), plain text files, and HTML and Word documents, Kindle also uses its own proprietary, DRM-restricted format (AZW). It does not fully support the widely accepted Portable Document Format (PDF), but Amazon provides "experimental" conversion to the native AZW format.[16] Users may also convert PDF files to supported formats using third-party software."

From Amazon.com: "Email your Word documents and pictures (.JPG, .GIF, .BMP, .PNG) to Kindle for easy on-the-go viewing."

#32 MkB

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 11:22 PM

Thanks Righty! Just curious: in which format did you get DMC? The native Kindle AZW format?

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 12:17 AM

Thanks Righty! Just curious: in which format did you get DMC? The native Kindle AZW format?

Yes because I bought the Devil May Care Kindle Edition from the Amazon.com Kindle Store. :tup:

Are you thinking about getting a Kindle?

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 12:25 AM

DMC Kindle edition: that's cool! I haven't heard about it.

Buying a Kindle: not for the moment, for two reasons:
- because it's a bit too "ebook oriented", and I prefer a multi-purpose tool like a PDAphone
- because most of my eBooks are in LIT format, so it looks like I wouldn't be able to read them with the Kindle :tup:

Yet, I'm interested in the future developments of ebooks and ebook readers. What sucks when reading on a PDA screen, is that your eyes get tired after a moment. I hope the new e-ink technologies will bring a significative improvement before I need bottle-thick spectacles :tup:

#35 Righty007

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 12:40 AM

Yet, I'm interested in the future developments of ebooks and ebook readers. What sucks when reading on a PDA screen, is that your eyes get tired after a moment. I hope the new e-ink technologies will bring a significative improvement before I need bottle-thick spectacles :tup:

Since the Kindle isn't backlit, it doesn't hurt your eyes like a PDA or computer screen does. The six font sizes also makes the Kindle easy on one's eyes. :tup:

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 01:57 AM

Let us know how you like it Righty.

I'm currently reading Devil May Care and Amazon is planning on releasing a Kindle Edition for all of Ian Fleming's James Bond novels in the near future. Like iTunes, the Kindle library is small right now but it will grow with time so maybe we'll see the Benson and Gardner books as a Kindle Edition someday?

This would force me to push the buy button for one as soon as it hits the streets. Glad to see you are liking it. I agree that the Kindle 2.0 will be better but, for a company that doesn't make consumer products, I think Amazon did a good job out of the gate on this one. On this stuff, it usually takes a company that has no history with these products to push the market forward ala what Apple did to the mp3 player market.

#37 Righty007

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 02:57 AM

I finished Devil May Care (Kindle Edition) and it was a great experience. Now I'm reading Scott McClellan's new book, What Happened.

#38 Righty007

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 02:07 AM

I really love this thing. I read more now than I ever did. Anybody thinking about getting one?

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 09:57 PM

I really love this thing. I read more now than I ever did. Anybody thinking about getting one?


I'm glad you're enjoying it. Even though I read ALOT (no less than 100 pages a day usually), this product has absolutely zero appeal to me.

Here's what would HAVE happen before I would ever consider purchasing one:

1. Color
2. No charge for blogs, etc.
3. Book prices and subscriptions would have to be less than their hard copy counterparts.
4. The price for the unit should not exceed $60.00 MAX.

$400 for a device to read stuff (just read stuff) is just mindblowingly staggeringly NOT something I would ever EVER consider (IMHO). Hey, $100 would pop my brain just thinking about it - not for what it does.

But I'm glad you're happy with it. But why not just buy the book for a fraction of the price???

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 10:40 PM

I really love this thing. I read more now than I ever did. Anybody thinking about getting one?


I'm glad you're enjoying it. Even though I read ALOT (no less than 100 pages a day usually), this product has absolutely zero appeal to me.

Here's what would HAVE happen before I would ever consider purchasing one:

1. Color
2. No charge for blogs, etc.
3. Book prices and subscriptions would have to be less than their hard copy counterparts.
4. The price for the unit should not exceed $60.00 MAX.

$400 for a device to read stuff (just read stuff) is just mindblowingly staggeringly NOT something I would ever EVER consider (IMHO). Hey, $100 would pop my brain just thinking about it - not for what it does.

But I'm glad you're happy with it. But why not just buy the book for a fraction of the price???

1. Color would be nice but that technology is still a couple years away.

2. Reading blogs is FREE when using the experimental browser therefore there's no need to "subscribe."

3. You're misinformed, sir. Brand new books are usually priced at $9.99 which is less than half the hardcover price! I bought Devil May Care for $9.99. Older books are cheaper (about the price of a paperback or less).

4. $60.00!? There's no gadget on Earth that costs that little. $400 is too much which is why Amazon has lowered it to $359.00. It's worth every penny especially when you consider the discount you're getting on downloading the books via the FREE wireless service that comes with the device.

#41 Righty007

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 04:22 AM

Who's next?

The Christmas season is approaching and at least one of you has to be itching to get one of these.

#42 Righty007

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 11:08 PM

Oprah recently endorsed the Amazon Kindle. I could care less about Oprah but this probably means Amazon.com will get a flood of orders for them before Christmas. :(

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 04:21 PM

Amazon is releasing the Kindle 2 on Monday February 8th, HERE'S a look at some spy shots!

If they would only lower that price a little...

#44 Righty007

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 05:41 PM

Amazon is releasing the Kindle 2 on Monday February 8th, HERE'S a look at some spy shots!

If they would only lower that price a little...

Wow, that's a sexy device. Now I have a case of early adopter syndrome... :(

#45 Arbogast777

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 04:33 PM

HERE'S a look at Barnes and Noble's new e-reader, supposedly due to be announced Tuesday. Looks nice - supposed to be cheaper than the Kindle too.

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 04:45 PM

HERE'S a look at Barnes and Noble's new e-reader, supposedly due to be announced Tuesday. Looks nice - supposed to be cheaper than the Kindle too.


Yeah, so that on Thursday. If I ever buy one of these things, def gonna be the e-reader. Doubt it though. No substitute for paper and ink!

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 12:56 AM

Bumping this thread a couple of years on as I'm contemplating the purchase of a Kindle.

Have Kindles become more newfangled and, like, better since this thread was started? Have any sceptics here been converted? Anyone here no longer able to live without a Kindle?

What are the drawbacks of these devices? Are they likely to get even more swish in the near or near-ish future, meaning that one would be best advised to hold off buying the current Kindle? What about rival formats?

#48 Simon

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 02:53 PM

I was give one for Christmas just past by the family, complete with 3G and a black leather cover.

My immediate thought was that I like the touch, feel, smell (of older books)and retaining of books too much to think I was ever going to be converted. And to be fair, my family thought I would think as such. Their argument was that I am fairly minimalist and that a life time's reading will amount to a lot of space being taken up.

So, they positioned the Kindle as something that would be good for the books I would not retain, while the likes of the Steinbecks I am reading I will happily hold on to. Sounded good. So, thus empowered I set forth and went straight into the Millenium trilogy.

Hands down, I was impressed. Reads like a book, has all the blurb at the front if you like that stuff (I do), but when you 'start' the book, it takes you to page one, not the blurb. The battery life is good, but commensurately improved if you turn off the Wireless - as was recommended by a pop up. I haven't tried papers or magazines but I am not a massive reader of these. I don't write notes while I am reading.

So, five stars, based upon my useage above.

#49 Loomis

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 04:28 PM

Cheers, Simon.

One more question: is it true that Kindles play MP3s, and if so can one transfer the contents of one's Windows Media Player folder to a Kindle?

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 05:41 PM

Are they waterproof? One does like to read in the bath and, in summer, in the pool. Countless papperboks have slightly drowned over the years - either flung, enraged or dropped, drunkenly - but dried out thereafter.

Expunge the image of me in the bath before answering and plump apologies if that's disrupted your life.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 06:24 PM

Further thought: are they canine-proof? It's been known to happen that men's best friend claims our attention by snatching the reading without much regard for chapters and paragraphs, right in mid-sentence, ensuing a vicious struggle for the printed matter in question.

That concern is also what kept me from getting an iPad up to now.

Edited by Dustin, 17 May 2011 - 06:26 PM.


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Posted 18 May 2011 - 10:37 AM

I must admit to being the variety of person that does not look for multi functional, swiss army knife-type properties to all his tools in life.

So whether a Kindle can play music or whether an ipod can satisfactorily slice an egg is immaterial to me. I am (as of the date of this post) 45 so make of that what you will.

As for waterproof-ness, while it hasn't got messages similar to, 'Do not use as a hairdryer' on the side of a paint stripper, I am sure that chucking it in the pool, or a fire for that matter, might not agree with it.

It is tested to Level 4 Canine.

#53 Dustin

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 11:06 AM

Level 4 should suffice then.

I'd generally agree about the rest, universal qualities, Swiss-Army-knife-ness of the device and so on. Only, I know from recent experience that some things can become obsolete within a few months, and often right out of the blue too. The main drawback of the kindle ( at the moment!) is its single purpose nature. I would bet a veritable sum that this would probably change within the very near future; either by tablet or netbook gadgets adapting the e-ink technology for their reading function, or by readers as the kindle breaking the wall to traditional Internet functions.

At another guess I'd even think it's a fair bet this will come one day in a gadget the size of a mobile phone with a folding or projecting screen and keyboard, but that will probably still take a few years. But as one whose iPod has become a curiosity before I could even import all my CDs I know exactly why it's a concern what the next step in technology will be.

Edited by Dustin, 18 May 2011 - 11:08 AM.


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Posted 18 May 2011 - 11:24 AM

But as one whose iPod has become a curiosity before I could even import all my CDs I know exactly why it's a concern what the next step in technology will be.

This makes for an interesting philosophical point.

Stuff is changing so quickly that one could spend the rest of one's days - concerned. One is really never going to buy into a technology or new market safe in the knowledge that something is future proof. So why even consider it, never mind experiencing concern.

I saw my Dad experiencing this with TV's.

"Stereo costs too much so I will wait until it drops."
"Ooh, widescreen has come in so we should get that, once the price drops."
"Hmm, HD is just around the corner. Perhaps we should wait for that to drop."

In the end, bless him, he died and so ended up in doing none of the above.

The point is to put your stake in the ground and just go for it, safe in the knowledge that you are making the right decision with the right knowledge at the time. Otherwise, you might die having gone down none of the routes. And you will have lead a life being concerned.

#55 Dustin

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 11:29 AM

Indeed, very good point.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 01:23 PM


But as one whose iPod has become a curiosity before I could even import all my CDs I know exactly why it's a concern what the next step in technology will be.

This makes for an interesting philosophical point.

Stuff is changing so quickly that one could spend the rest of one's days - concerned. One is really never going to buy into a technology or new market safe in the knowledge that something is future proof. So why even consider it, never mind experiencing concern.

I saw my Dad experiencing this with TV's.

"Stereo costs too much so I will wait until it drops."
"Ooh, widescreen has come in so we should get that, once the price drops."
"Hmm, HD is just around the corner. Perhaps we should wait for that to drop."

In the end, bless him, he died and so ended up in doing none of the above.

The point is to put your stake in the ground and just go for it, safe in the knowledge that you are making the right decision with the right knowledge at the time. Otherwise, you might die having gone down none of the routes. And you will have lead a life being concerned.


All of that is true. As you say, "one is really never going to buy into a technology or new market safe in the knowledge that something is future proof." That's always been the case and always will be the case.

To my mind, though, the difference today lies in the sheer speed with which technology seems to be changing, as well as the (to me - I'm only nine years your junior, Simon) mind-boggling array of gizmos and formats with which one can read things, watch things, listen to things and do things. Gone are the days when something like VHS can appear and have an active, market-dominating life of more than twenty years.

There's a technology show on the BBC News channel - forget what it's called, but I find myself watching it every so often, and every time I do I stagger away from my TV set feeling like Austin Powers unthawed into a world he no longer understands.

"Tablets", "clouds", "iThis", "iThat", "platforms", "blackberries", "raspberries", and heaven knows what else. I simply can't comprehend what I'm watching.

So it's not just that things like the Kindle will one day be out of date. It's that I sometimes wonder whether they'll be museum pieces within weeks. I already feel a bit burned by the Blu-ray format (although it's great to be able to watch Bond in high definition at home), which looks as though it'll be consigned to the dustbin of history any day now.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 04:48 PM

Part of the problem is of course an industry that has accurately evaluated to within a few pounds how much the average consumer is willing to spend per year for his entertainment/information hardware. And we can't have a year without something new to offer that consumer, can we? Competition doesn't sleep either and even huge companies can crumble and fall, should they miss a crucial trend. The rat race has become incredibly fast and fierce and most of our technology will not even run any more within five years, turning billions worth of hardware to industrial waste. Frankly, had someone predicted in the 1980s that I would pay so and so much each month for my landline, for pay-per-view, for mobile communication, for a thing called Internet, and thousands for the necessary hardware, acquiring new toys and gadgets every year - well, I wouldn't have believed it. Nobody would have. Except Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. And James T. Kirk.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 05:47 PM

I think you are pretty safe with a Kindle, Loomis - the device has been around since 2007 and is on its 3rd iteration. It will not be obsolete in a few weeks. Amazon has a vested interest in keeping Kindle owners happy.

It can play your Mp3s.

There are two schools of thought - the swiss army functionality, versus the "focus on one task and do it well" and the Kindle leans towards the later.

I don't own one yet, but the two coworkers who have them seem to enjoy them. Maybe I'll ask for one for xmas.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 08:11 PM

............ versus the "focus on one task and do it well" and the Kindle leans towards the later.

Currently.

But it will evolve into a Swiss Army knife in the same way that BT (British Telecom) now offers TV, iPhones are released at the rate of one a year, Mobile/Cell companies offer Broadband, mobile phones are also cameras. There is absolutely no possible way the Kindle will remain as just a book reader.

So, that said, I personally steer clear of gadget TV shows as my personal interest in gadgetry is nominal and also, I do not wish to get into the circle that my dear father found himself.

Perhaps those of a younger generation will not experience this conflict as they are already born into a disposable / replaceable world.

Time, Place, Use, Money - and forget the resale value or what is around the corner.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:34 PM

Never quite understood the need for one of these. I like having a full bookshelf.