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Casino Royale: Full Uncut Special Edition!?!


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#1 DamnCoffee

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 09:39 AM

Anyone seen this?
http://www13.cd-wow....amp;affid=15560

Casino Royale: Full Uncut Special Edition for Region 3, certificate 15, runtime 145 mins (Not to sure if this is true or just a typo) :cooltongue: but still... nice to know


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#2 stamper

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 09:53 AM

It's just the regular european cut (uncut, unlike the american DVD)

#3 RedKelly

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 12:29 PM

Yes, I don't know why they changed the american DVD from the theatrical version.

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 12:32 PM

They didn't.

#5 RedKelly

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 02:05 PM

Exuse me Stamper yes they did. A couple of changes most obvious is the PTS and the starwell fight.

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 03:33 PM

The version on CDwow is just the region 3 version. It is uncut - which is different from the British and US versions (don't know if continental Europe ever had an uncut version). This has been available since Feb 15th.

#7 stromberg

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 04:11 PM

German website schnittberichte.de is specialized on this kind of stuff. The recently had two articles, comparing the German FSK 12 version with the US PG 13 and the BBFC 12 version.
For those of you who don't speak German, there are images of the cut scenes, so you can see for yourself.

The major UK cut was about 12 seconds from the torture scene, while the US version had cuts in the PTS and the stairwell fight.

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 04:51 PM

No, what I mean is, the cut on the US DVD is the one shown in most US theaters, you may have been lucky to see it uncut (I think the prints were uncut, while the digital showing were the US cut)

#9 Matt_13

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 05:54 PM

Do you think that there will be an unrated directors cut for casino royale? There are a lot of scenes missing that I'd like too see added to the final product (aside from the cuts made to reduce violence). I'd like to see the cricket match and the Bond/Vesper swim, as well as Valenka's swim. Would be interesting to see how much different the film would be and how uch impact those scenes would hvae had on the final product.

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 06:19 PM

Do you think that there will be an unrated directors cut for casino royale? There are a lot of scenes missing that I'd like too see added to the final product (aside from the cuts made to reduce violence). I'd like to see the cricket match and the Bond/Vesper swim, as well as Valenka's swim. Would be interesting to see how much different the film would be and how uch impact those scenes would hvae had on the final product.


And if I do get a BluRay Disk player is it too much trouble to put all that on the BluRay? Please.

#11 Qwerty

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 09:26 PM

Do you think that there will be an unrated directors cut for casino royale? There are a lot of scenes missing that I'd like too see added to the final product (aside from the cuts made to reduce violence). I'd like to see the cricket match and the Bond/Vesper swim, as well as Valenka's swim. Would be interesting to see how much different the film would be and how uch impact those scenes would hvae had on the final product.


It would be nice to someday see the release of a uncut Casino Royale with all the deleted scenes replaced back in the film.

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Posted 10 June 2007 - 01:28 AM

No, what I mean is, the cut on the US DVD is the one shown in most US theaters, you may have been lucky to see it uncut (I think the prints were uncut, while the digital showing were the US cut)


Your right I did see the uncut version.

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 04:27 AM

Do you think that there will be an unrated directors cut for casino royale? There are a lot of scenes missing that I'd like too see added to the final product (aside from the cuts made to reduce violence). I'd like to see the cricket match and the Bond/Vesper swim, as well as Valenka's swim. Would be interesting to see how much different the film would be and how uch impact those scenes would hvae had on the final product.


I think the inclusion of the cricket match footage would spoil the structure of the PTS; the jump cuts between Dryden's office and Bond's first kill are what makes the sequence IMO. Also the mirroring of Bond and then Carter giving themselves away by touching their earpieces is a bit obvious for my liking. I don't have a problem with scenes from later on though.

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 04:33 AM

No, what I mean is, the cut on the US DVD is the one shown in most US theaters, you may have been lucky to see it uncut (I think the prints were uncut, while the digital showing were the US cut)


Your right I did see the uncut version.

so is there or ever going to be an uncut version because i would automaticly get it because im intreged to see it. to answer quote above is the "deleted secnes" any good?

#15 00Twelve

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 02:41 PM

I just wonder if leaving those cuts in (US version) would have really garnered an 'R' rating.

In any case, I wouldn't mind seeing some of the cut material back in a "CR:EE". But no matter what, I won't be picking it up before it comes out as a real collector's version.

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 03:14 PM

so is there realy anuncut version of the movie in the U.S if so tell me how to get it or when it would come out.

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 03:46 PM

Campbell has said there is another version of CR on the way at some point with deleted scenes. However he did not say whether these will be re-incorporated back into the film (though I agree that in some scenes adding new material would spoil the flow). If the scenes are not put back in the film, I'm sure some enterprising and computer literate soul will produce a fan edit at some point.

I know Sony have an extended version of Da Vinci ready for release at some point so maybe an extended Casino Royale is also being prepped.... Hope so.

#18 Matt_13

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 04:07 PM

I think the inclusion of the cricket match footage would spoil the structure of the PTS; the jump cuts between Dryden's office and Bond's first kill are what makes the sequence IMO. Also the mirroring of Bond and then Carter giving themselves away by touching their earpieces is a bit obvious for my liking. I don't have a problem with scenes from later on though.


Well, the way that the cricket match was written in the script still features the cuts back and forth between Bond and Dryden. The only difference would be the length in between cuts. The fight itself was also abrieviated, as one can see by the pictures in "Bond On Set" (a must have btw). I don't know, personally I think the cricket match would add to the PTS, the way its written and its purpose is very cool.

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 05:47 PM

The cricket match must have been cut just to improve the flow of the pre-titles, and I can certainly see how the version that was used would be more dramatic than the scripted version. However, as a cricket fan, I'd still like to see a bit of Bond taking in a match, before hunting down Fisher. Fingers crossed for an extended version.

#20 Peckinpah1976

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Posted 13 June 2007 - 11:04 PM

Well, the way that the cricket match was written in the script still features the cuts back and forth between Bond and Dryden. The only difference would be the length in between cuts.


I fully understand that; the point I was making was that the whole sequence probably works better just by cutting to and from the fight and not by having establishing footage.

The cricket match must have been cut just to improve the flow of the pre-titles, and I can certainly see how the version that was used would be more dramatic than the scripted version.


Like he said. :cooltongue:

#21 jaguar007

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Posted 13 June 2007 - 11:19 PM

I had never heard about the cricket scene until now..can someone tell me a little more about it?

#22 Peckinpah1976

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Posted 14 June 2007 - 12:00 AM

I had never heard about the cricket scene until now..can someone tell me a little more about it?


The fight between Bond and Dryden's contact takes place in the restroom of a cricket ground, originally there was footage of Bond observing his target in the crowds outside and giving himself away by touching his earpeice in much the same way that Carter does in the finished film's opening chase sequence.

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Posted 14 June 2007 - 01:07 AM

i would only want an extended cut if it is the directors cut. if campbell feels that his best version is the one that was released in theatres then im happy with that but if he feels that it could have been improved then im all for an extended edition.

#24 LadySylvia

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Posted 14 June 2007 - 02:14 AM

Also the mirroring of Bond and then Carter giving themselves away by touching their earpieces is a bit obvious for my liking.


I can see why they got rid of that scene with Bond touching his earpiece.

Edited by LadySylvia, 14 June 2007 - 02:15 AM.


#25 Nicolas Suszczyk

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Posted 23 June 2007 - 10:07 PM

The region 4 Argentinean edition is uncut !

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 02:09 AM

is the uncut version worth getting if i already have the region 1 version? i am kind of interested in seeing the uncut fight sequences.

#27 Nicolas Suszczyk

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 02:51 AM

I send stills of the cut shots during the bathroom fight between Fisher and Bond.

http://www.geocities...cut/CAP_000.jpg
http://www.geocities...cut/CAP_001.jpg
http://www.geocities...cut/CAP_002.jpg

Edited by nicolas_suszczyk, 24 June 2007 - 03:32 AM.


#28 Bucky

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 04:04 AM

thanks for posting stills. have you been able to get any from the stairwell fight?

#29 Nicolas Suszczyk

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 01:12 PM

Now I'll send you. I tried to do that yesterday, but my PC was too slow.

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Edited by nicolas_suszczyk, 24 June 2007 - 01:51 PM.


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Posted 24 June 2007 - 04:38 PM

thanks for the stills. i may consider getting the uncut dvd for this as well as the dts track. i do not understand why the US release did not have one on it.