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[Craig is 007]

I read an article on the MI6 site about Bond 22 and it said that Purvis and Wade are working out a script based on the Ian Fleming short stories, The Hildebrand Rarity, Quantum of Solace, The Property Of A Lady, Risico or 007 In New York.

I would prefer the plot from the Quantum of Solace novel and the second part of Casino Royale.

Here's a link: http://www.mi6.co.uk...n....php3?t=&s=

Edited by Craig is 007, 24 March 2007 - 02:20 PM.

[DamnCoffee]

Cool find!. i hope this is true.

[Loomis]

I read an article on the MI6 site about Bond 22 and it said that Purvis and Wade are working out a script based on an Ian Fleming short story, The Hildebrand Rarity, Quantum of Solace, The Property Of A Lady, Risico or 007 In New York.

Which one is it?

All of them. So the article says, at least. "According to Screen International, Purvis and Wade are reportedly working out a script based on Ian Fleming's short stories The Hildebrand Rarity, The Property Of A Lady, Risico and 007 In New York." Presumably, they're picking out elements from all those stories to create a new Bond yarn, in much the same way as LICENCE TO KILL drew on Fleming's LIVE AND LET DIE and THE HILDEBRAND RARITY.

[Craig is 007]

Ok.. I'm sorry, I got it wrong. thanks, Loomis.

[DamnCoffee]

I dont like the idea of all of them rolled into one , i'd rather have them all as seperate movies.

[Johnboy007]

Well parts of those books have been "stolen" already, so they don't have much choice other than to combine them.

It's not as if they'll name it "A Quantum of The Risico Property of a Lady Hildebrand Rarity in New York"

[DamnCoffee]

Its Purvis and Wade Johnboy , i wouldn't put it past them

[HildebrandRarity]

I'm actually very confident in P&W. Their plots always seem well thought out while admittedly in need of a dialogue polish (which can easily be done via another script writer.)

I have enjoyed most of all of the Eon Mach II James Bond movies which I found to be (for the most part) superior entertainment to, for instance, TMWTGG, FYEO, Octopussy, AVTAK, TLD and LTK.

I rank GoldenEye, TND, TWINE, DAD and CR above those i've mentioned above.

Mike and Barbara have given us two blockbusters in a row and I see no reason to see a reversal in that trend.

It would be interesting to see what they can do with the Seychelles location and the Indain Ocean scientific excursion angle from The Hildebrand Rarity, for instance.

[marktmurphy]

Is there anything left of Property of a Lady and Risico? Surely Octopussy and FYEO used pretty much everything in those? The only element I can think of is the Russian spy being paid through an auction.. and even that's going to feel very Octopussy if they use the auction setting.

[dinovelvet]

No, this sounds too silly. Based on A Fleming short story, I can believe, but putting four of them in a blender together when two of them have already been used, is somewhat ludicrous. Why not From a view to a kill, or Quantum of Solace?

[Zographos]

Is there anything left of Property of a Lady and Risico? Surely Octopussy and FYEO used pretty much everything in those? The only element I can think of is the Russian spy being paid through an auction.. and even that's going to feel very Octopussy if they use the auction setting.

Yeah, they were both pretty much picked clean. Not to mention that Quantum of Solace was already just used in Casino Royale (the concept of a husband and wife in the Bahamas engaging in mounting acts of cruelty against each other - and that was basically the entirety of Quantum of Solace right there).

That only leaves The Hildebrand Rarity and 007 in New York, the former of which was partially used in Licence To Kill and the latter of which is a sparse 8 pager.

I don't really trust these short story rumours. There's simply not much to take unless they're willing to re-use material.

[Gobi-1]

I don't think Solange's storyline was all that close to Quantum of Solace. The difference between QoS and CR is that Philip Masters in QoS was a good person who was driven to cruelty by an unfaithful wife. Hardly the relationship of Solange and Dimitrio, since being a bad man was what attracted Solange to him in the first place.

I can see Masters' storyline being used as a backstory for a future villain. A good man who was driven to hate by a women who betrayed him. He would be a reflection of Bond, as the betrayal of a women made them the men they have become. One was driven to the side of good the other to the side of evil. The villain still has the capacity for good and Bond the capacity for evil. How two men can have similar experiences that sets them on two different paths that will collide at some point. That would make for a great movie right there.

[Pam Bouvier]

I'd been wondering what the inspiration piece would be.

Gonna be hard to top CR, but it will be fun to see them try.

[tdalton]

I like that they're trying to bring more of Fleming's ideas to Bond 22, although I'm not sure if taking this many short stories and piecing them together is a good idea. But, of course, if they've found a way to do that and still have a great script, then I'd say go for it, as long as the title of the film is not 007 in New York.

[Gobi-1]

I've never read "007 In New York" but from this summary from Wikipedia I can see potential.

Spoiler

"007 in New York"
A brief tale in which Bond muses about New York City, and his favourite recipe for scrambled eggs, during a quick mission to the Big Apple to warn a female MI6 employee that her new boyfriend is a KGB agent. It is notable only for including a rare humorous conclusion, and for its mention of Solange, a young lady of Bond's intimate acquaintance who works in a shop, Abercrombie's, "appropriately employed in their Indoor Games Department".

The part I've bolded I could see happening in Bond 2.2.

Spoiler

Change the KGB agent to Vesper's Algerian boyfriend if he is indeed a villain working for "The Organization." Maybe he seduces women to further "The Organization's" goals. Bond warns the MI6 agent (Gala Brand?) that her new boyfriend is not to be trusted. Bond doesn't want to see what happened to Vesper happen to her.

[stamper]

Hmm, doesn't live and let die (the novel) starts in New York ? More Leiter. I'm guessing major unused parts of the novel may be used here.

[Pam Bouvier]

More Leiter would be most welcome. I'd like to see the new guy develop the character more. Besides, I've been a sucker for the Leiter/Bond friendship ever since I read the books.

[zencat]

Didn't we all know this already? I guess maybe the inclusion of 007 in New York is new.

[TheREAL008]

Hmmm, starts off in New York and could possibly end in the Bahamas....

[K1Bond007]

Didn't we all know this already? I guess maybe the inclusion of 007 in New York is new.

I think it was just an assumption. Also the article says they ruled out Risico as a title; they never said that.

[zencat]

Didn't we all know this already? I guess maybe the inclusion of 007 in New York is new.

I think it was just an assumption. Also the article says they ruled out Risico as a title; they never said that.

They said that HERE in an interview in The Trades in January. Also there's the same "no comment" quote about Vesper's boyfriend. Either this is the same interview, or this is just their standard rap.

[Skudor]

Is there anything left of Property of a Lady and Risico? Surely Octopussy and FYEO used pretty much everything in those? The only element I can think of is the Russian spy being paid through an auction.. and even that's going to feel very Octopussy if they use the auction setting.

The auction element was used too prominently already in Octopussy.

I'm all for using Fleming but there doesn't seem to be much left.

[K1Bond007]

Didn't we all know this already? I guess maybe the inclusion of 007 in New York is new.

I think it was just an assumption. Also the article says they ruled out Risico as a title; they never said that.

They said that HERE in an interview in The Trades in January.

Right. It questions whether Bond 22 would be "based on Risico" because of the rumor started by the Sun. It says nothing about it's use as a title. They never rejected that. It's just as likely as any of the others, I'm sure (though they may have rejected it behind closed doors, but we have no indication of that). Also doesn't mention anything else about any other short stories.

[zencat]

Didn't we all know this already? I guess maybe the inclusion of 007 in New York is new.

I think it was just an assumption. Also the article says they ruled out Risico as a title; they never said that.

They said that HERE in an interview in The Trades in January.

Right. It questions whether Bond 22 would be "based on Risico" because of the rumor started by the Sun. It says nothing about it's use as a title. They never rejected that. It's just as likely as any of the others, I'm sure (though they may have rejected it behind closed doors, but we have no indication of that). Also doesn't mention anything else about any other short stories.

Oh, right. Got it. (Sorry, I haven't been paying close attention to all this as I did with CR.)

No Risico title. Shoot! It's a great title.

(Has anyone else noticed that Robert Wade never smiles?)

[bill007]

So, Bond 22 is going to be a continuation of CR, and possibly contain elements of The Hildebrand Rarity, Quantum of Solace, The Property Of A Lady, Risico and/or 007 In New York?

[K1Bond007]

So, Bond 22 is going to be a continuation of CR, and possibly contain elements of The Hildebrand Rarity, Quantum of Solace, The Property Of A Lady, Risico and/or 007 In New York?

Yeah.. whoop-ti-do, right? Anyone could have guessed that. In fact, just take out the short stories altogether and say Fleming in general. That should cover it.

[zencat]

So, Bond 22 is going to be a continuation of CR, and possibly contain elements of The Hildebrand Rarity, Quantum of Solace, The Property Of A Lady, Risico and/or 007 In New York?

Yeah.. whoop-ti-do, right? Anyone could have guessed that. In fact, just take out the short stories altogether and say Fleming in general. That should cover it.

And maybe a few bits of Gardner here and there.

[stromberg]

I think it's all bogus. Lame speculations based on dangerous smattering

Someone's cousin's neighbour's uncle may have heard that P&W may have mentioned that they might be thinking about working with unused Fleming material, then picked the (widely unknown) titles of the remaining short stories and guessed that they are what P&W meant (without even checking if elements from these stories have been previously used).

[marktmurphy]

Is there anything left of Property of a Lady and Risico? Surely Octopussy and FYEO used pretty much everything in those? The only element I can think of is the Russian spy being paid through an auction.. and even that's going to feel very Octopussy if they use the auction setting.

The auction element was used too prominently already in Octopussy.

Yeah, sorry- I meant the mole being paid off/spotting the payer was the only bit of Property not used. Not sure it's really worth salvaging, though.

[Scrambled Eggs]

First reaction... if they're thinking of using 007 in New York then they are truly scraping the barrel.

But, it could maybe work as

Spoiler

a PTS? In the story, he's on his way to a rendezvous at the reptile house in central park. Sounds the ideal starting point for a chase sequence?