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Your alternate Bond franchise timeline, what would you change?


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#61 Jim

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 09:27 PM

[Adopts Patrick Macnee impersonation] It is the summer of 1985, and James Bond fans the world o'er wonder "How much longer can we put up with this rubbish?", and as a secondary consideration, "Who could be the next Bond?" [Abandons Patrick Macnee impersonation on medical advice]. Several candidates are considered, but ultimately dismissed: Mel Gibson ("too rough"); Sam Neill ("too Kiwi, if there is such a thing. If not, too something else. I just don't like him

#62 spynovelfan

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 10:09 PM

Jim, please get off the bloody internet and write a screenplay. Then send it to Hef.

Utter genius.

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 10:19 PM

Late 1955. Ian Fleming succeeds in selling the film rights to the Bond series to American producer Cubby Broccoli, whose film The Cockleshell Heroes, about British naval commandoes in World War Two, has just been released, starring Trevor Howard. Broccoli immediately hires 45-year-old David Niven to play James Bond in CASINO ROYALE, which is released in 1956. It is directed by Terence Young, with a script by Richard Maibaum (both had worked on 1953's The Red Beret).

The film is a massive departure for Niven, for although he is still playing a debonair, upper-class British military man, the 'gay blade' tone of all his previous performances is, for the first time, counterbalanced by a sense of genuine menace in his performance. Niven, a friend of Fleming's and perhaps even a model for the character of Bond, later revealed that he had tried, with CASINO ROYALE, to be more faithful to the dark days of secret warfare he had experienced himself as a commando signaller attached to the SAS behind enemy lines during World War Two. With no moustache and a notably muscled physique, shown off to full advantage by a topping pair of blue bathing trunks, Niven became an unlikely sex symbol, and his work on CASINO ROYALE arguably paved the way for the sexual revolution of the 1960s.

Niven returned for the lack-lustre LIVE AND LET DIE, which is now very rarely shown on television due to perceived racist undertones, not helped by Trevor Howard being blacked up to play Mr Big. Nevertheless, the film is undergoing a critical appraisal, with some fans claiming that it is an overlooked masterpiece.

Niven bowed out of the series at this juncture, saying he had become self-conscious and wanted to go back to comedy. Broccoli now turned to...


Hey, snf, you're not so bad yourself. This is hilarious. Trevor Howard blacking up!!!!!

Jim, starppit! You're too garddam funnyful, man. My sides is hurtin'

This is another of those GENIUS threads!

Who'd da thunk it?

#64 Royal Dalton

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 10:50 PM

Stan Laurel is James Bond in
1925 CASINO ROYALE
1927 LIVE AND LET DIE
1929 MOONRAKER
1931 DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
1933 FROM RUSSIA, WITH LOVE

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 10:52 PM

After almost falling out of love with their acquisition of Ian Fleming's canon of novels and the James Bond character due to a futile, seemingly endless search for the correct actor, in 1965 Cubby Brocoli happens upon a mature looking Australian male model called George Lazenby who in almost every way resembles the Bond of the books.

With some of the finest British talent of the 60s, EON Productions begin filming the Fleming novels in order starting with Casino Royale. Lazenby is a huge hit and Bond and Lazenby-mania exceed the popularity of the Beatles in the late 60s. Lazenby realises exactly what an oppportunity he has and for the next four years each Bond film appears annually in the order they were published. In the early 1970's, Lazeny grows his hair and a moustache and appears in Universal Solder, a film criticising war and emphasing peace: Lazenby wins a Best Actor Oscar.

Loyal to his routes, Lazenby returns to Bond to continue the filming of the Fleming canon. Releases do become more sporadic now as Lazenby non-Bond work escapates - appearing in such its as Sleuth opposite Laurence Olivier and taking the lead, barely recogniseably, in One Flew Over the Cuckoos next. However, Lazenby finishes the Bond canon and he is last seen on a beach in Jamaica in The Man With The Golden Gun in 1985 with Helen Mirren in the role of Mary Goodnight.

Meanwhile, in other news, a body builder turned failed actor, Sean Connery, "Big Tam" to his friends at the WMC, returns to his career in Edinburgh as a coffin polisher. Later, he becomes a labourer in his brother Neil's plasterering business. Neil Connery makes a fortune in the building boom of the 1980s and retires to Spain to play golf on his fortune. His brother Sean tries run the plastering business himself but as a result of early 1990's recession, heads to England to find work in the new out of town warehousing and distribution. In 1997, John Major's Tory government working out the way to win the General Election is the give Scotland immediate independence, abolishes the Union between England and Scotland.

Today, Gordon Brown is President of Scotland and economic journalists have twinned its economic quality with several African states. Engalnd remains prosperous with most envied living standards in the world. George Lazenby is Lord Lazenby. The wareabouts of Mr Sean Connery are unknown.

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t'int bad an all, either, mate! Very funny.

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Posted 05 March 2007 - 01:06 AM

1934: Ian Fleming travels to Dublin on banking business and meets 8 year-old Kevin McClory on the street and they talk about how they want to be writers. When Fleming returns to London he starts to write a spy novel. James Bond is "Bulldog Drummond with more tits and crushed testes" as he puts it.

1935: Casino Royale is published to moderate reviews and okay sales. Fleming wants to sell the rights to make a movie for some cash. In Los Angeles Raymond Chandler gets drunk and rants about how great the book is to everyone he can meet.

1936: Chandler's rants and Fleming's banker relatives has an effect as Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer buys the rights to CR. L.B. Mayer is not exactly enthused with the book and neither is Joe Breen.

The book will be heavily cleaned up for adaptation. The torture scene for example will be a wrench on the toes, offscreen of course. Despite the glamarous and exotic setting of Monte Carlo (perfect for the MGM art and costume departments) the plot is rather simple, not very long and has a rather confined setting. Also how the hell do they film a baccarat game let alone explain it? Their stable of screenwriters nevertheless turn the film into a witty romantic-action/adventure romp.

The material needs Star Power to succeed thinks Mayer so for the female lead he casts their biggest female star: one Jean Harlow. For James Bond he decides her Wife vs. Secretary co-star James Stewart is perfect for a star making role as All-American Cardsharp Jimmy Bond. Gable and Powell were initially considered but were rejected because they had mustaches and Bond does not have a mustache! :cooltongue: Spencer Tracy had some red in his hair and is only 5'10 so he was rejected while Cary Grant demanded Randolph Scott. Peter Lorre is borrowed for the villain with Ian Hunter supporting as Leiter. Fleming is not exactly enthused by the Americanization of his book but he enjoys the publicity and the SM p

Edited by triviachamp, 05 March 2007 - 01:10 AM.


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Posted 05 March 2007 - 01:12 AM

Nice stuff, triviachamp. :cooltongue: :angry: :lol:

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Posted 05 March 2007 - 03:05 PM

To continue...

Niven bowed out of the series at this juncture, saying he had become self-conscious and wanted to go back to comedy. Broccoli now turned to a much younger actor, Roger Moore, who had been appearing as Ivanhoe on television. Moore was said to be anxious about succeeding Niven, but after protracted negotiations, in December 1958 he signed on to play 007 for three pictures at a press conference organized by Broccoli at the Ritz Hotel in London.

Moore

#69 coco1997

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 02:11 AM

I've always thought it would be cool if TMWTGG was Moore's last Bond film, sort of like how others have suggested it would have been great as Connery's last, where he would be the hardened, aged 007 Connery never really had the chance to portray.

So here's a topic of discussion:

If TMWTGG were to be Moore's LAST film rather than his second, how would you do it? What would you change about the original movie? Who would you have play the "younger, more virile" Francisco Scaramanga circa 1985?\

I always thought it would be cool to have the last scene of Moore's last Bond be taken from the last scene in TMWTGG novel, in which Bond is offered a knighthood but turns it down because of his love for anonymity.

#70 Mr_Clark

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 02:44 AM

I think it should of looked something like this, following the novels in order.

Sean Connery:
Live and Let Die(1962)
Moonraker(1963)
Diamonds Are Forever(1964)
From Russia With Love(1965)
Doctor No(1967)
Goldfinger(1969)

George Lazenby:
From A View To A Kill(1971)
For Your Eyes Only(1973)
Quantum Of Solace(1974)
The Hildebrand Rarity(1977)

Timothy Dalton:
Thunderball(1979)
The Spy Who Loved Me(1980)
On Her Majesty's Secret Service(1981)
You Only Live Twice(1983)
The Man With the Golden Gun(1985)
Octopussy(1987)
The Living Daylights(1989)

Sean Bean:
Licence Renewed(1995)
For Special Services(1997)
Role of Honor(1999)

Daniel Craig:
Casino Royale(2002, for the 40th anniversary)
Licence To Kill(2004)
Goldeneye(2006)
Risico(2008)
The Property of a Lady(2010)
Colonel Sun(2012, for the 50th anniversary)

Edited by Mr_Clark, 07 March 2007 - 04:57 AM.


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Posted 08 March 2007 - 06:41 AM

Wow, there is some very funny and intelligent stuff in this thread. I wouldn't change a thing, but can't resist inflicting my own childish musings. Somewhere, in a parallel universe -

Early 60's - Broccoli and Saltzman have the rights but can't find their Bond. They are particularly unimpressed with the raw, young Scottish actor with the bushy eyebrows and thinning hair, who is just leaving. Broccoli watches him from the window as he walks down the street. "Walks like a jungle animal." says Broccoli. "Panther?" suggests Saltzman. "No. Monkey" says Broccoli. In desperation the pair recall Patrick McGoohan for a further interview, despite the fact that McGoohan has already turned down the role due to moral objections regarding violence and sex scenes. They double their offer to McGoohan, but he doesn't shift until he catches sight of Ursula Andress in a skimpy bikini, and decides that there may be some intellectual stimulation on offer after all. McGoohan signs a three film deal, and Broccoli and Saltzman congratulate each other on finally getting their man. "How's he gonna react when he finds out we didn't cast Ursula because we'd have to dub her lines" says Broccoli.

After a difficult shoot, during which a sulky McGoohan objects to just about everything, Dr No debuts to commercial and critical success. McGoohan fulfills his contract by filming FRWL (his fight on a train with Stephen Boyd being the high point), and Goldfinger. He then threatens to walk, complaining that his serious style doesn't suit the increasingly silly scripts. However, he agrees to return for two more films if he can have a say in casting. Thunderball debuts in 1965 with McGoohan as Bond, and Ursula Andress as Domino. After the shooting of YOLT, McGoohan is feeling increasingly trapped by his role as 007, and a row ensues with Broccoli. "I am not a number, I am a free man!" shouts McGoohan. Broccoli knows it's time to look for a new Bond.

The hunt for Bond #2 gets off to a bad start. In auditions, an unknown and overenthusiastic Australian breaks the nose of Broccoli's favourite stuntman. Broccoli has him thrown out, and then sues his [censored]. Saltzman leaves the franchise when agreement can't be reached on casting. He objects to Broccoli's determination to cast Oliver Reed, despite the high risk of Reed falling off the wagon, not to mention the high cost of insurance. With Saltzman gone, Reed is confirmed as Bond #2, and filming on OHMSS begins.

Reed is the perfect professional until he gets to the Piz Gloria, where he takes his time "on the piste" too literally. Blofeld's girls soon become agitated by his habit of lifting his kilt at every opportunity. Diana Rigg dislikes the constant smell of alcohol on his breath, so takes to eating garlick by way of retribution. Reed takes a dislike to Rigg and the garlick, and subsequently vomits all over her. He then tries to pick a fight with "old baldy". and a mass brawl ensues. His bad behaviour continues on his return to England, and he misses the premiere when he is arrested. The press make much of the fact that the star of OHMSS is detained at her majesty's pleasure. Broccoli sues his [censored].

After the OHMSS scandal, Broccoli is desperate for McGoohan to return for DAF. McGoohan only agrees when he is promised a huge pay day, and studio backing to shoot the non-Bond film of his choice. He sleepwalks his way through DAF, and then starts work on a script featuring a thinly disguised 007, who is captured by an indeterminate power and imprisoned in a strange village. Broccoli decides that he is deliberately trying to subvert the Bond image and sues his [censored].

Bond #3 is wanted. Eventually the choice comes down between two little known TV actors - one is the star of a sci-fi series called UFO, the other is from a series called The Angel and seems to act a lot with his eyebrows. The former is chosen after Broccoli's daughter takes a fancy to him, and his name is Michael Billington.

Billington influences casting on LALD, when he suggests his pal Ed Bishop for Felix Leiter, and an actress who had played his wife in The Onedin Line called Jane Seymour for Solitaire. However, everybody is shocked on the first day of filming when Billington arrives on set minus hair on the front of his head. Nobody had realised that Billington wore a wig for his TV roles and Bond audition. Broccoli decides to bring in a toupee specıalıst rather than sue his [censored]. With his toupee and hairy chest, Billington becomes known in the 70's as Britain's answer to Burt Reynolds. He enjoys great success in the role, and everything goes swimmingly until he gets the script for Moonraker. Billington decides that having played a silly spaceman on TV for so long, he doesn't want to play another one, and quits the role.

The hunt is on for Bond #4. Broccoli interviews a Byronic, Shakespearean actor for the role, but decides against hiring him when he appears not to get the humour in the script. He then remembers Lewis Collins who had a small role as Sergei, in the pre-title sequence of TSWLM. Collins comes in for an interview. Everbody thinks that he's a cocky [censored] except Broccoli, who is impressed with his bravado and subsequently hires him.

Collins takes his appointment as Bond very seriously, and begins to see himself as 007 in real life. Despite a clause in his contract forbidding him to take part in dangerous activities, Collins breaks a leg while doing a parachute jump attempting to get into the SAS. The start date for Moonraker is put back, and Broccoli is tempted to sue his [censored]. However, Broccoli perseveres with Collins, and this pays off with Collins proving popular with the public throughout the 80's. However, the difference between fiction and reality becomes increasingly blurred in Collins' mind. Disaster strikes after the filming of LTK when Collins is arrested after single-handedly trying to storm the Iranian embassy, despite there not being any hostages present at the time. The following furore puts the Bond films on a six year hiatus. This time Collins does get his [censored] sued.

Six years later and Broccoli is ready for another stab. He is keen on an Irish actor from the American TV series Wilkinson Brass, but the actor passes on the opportunity, determined to see out his contract with his TV show. Broccoli then decides on Sean Bean for Bond #5. Fans initial response is that he is too rough, too short, and too blonde for the role. Broccoli wonders if he has made the right choice when Bean fails to turn up for his first press conference. Instead, Bean has opted to go and watch his beloved Sheffield United, and is found in the pub afterwards enjoying a pie and a pint with his mates. Broccoli threatens to sue his [censored], and Bean threatens to quit. Eventually they come to an agreement. Bean will stop work and watch his team by satellite no matter where he is in the world.

Bean makes his debut in Goldeneye, in which Jason Isaacs plays the antagonist. The revamped Bond, and Bean's performance are a big success. He plays Bond in three more films but is not comfortable with the limelight. His preference for a night out at the dogs, rather than a lavish lifestyle, begins to irritate Barbara Broccoli and Michael G Wilson who have inherited the franchise. It is a surprise after DAD, the most critically acclaimed Bond film for some time, when Bean is sacked. "We've decided to go in a different direction" says Babs.

After the sacking of a popular Bond, the pressure is on Broccoli and Wilson to find Bond #6, especially as an increasingly bitter Bean is threatening to sue their [censored]. Having acquired the rights to CR, the two begin the search for the right actor to reboot the series. They turn down one actor on the grounds that he is too rough, short, and blonde, and altogether too much like Sean Bean. Julian McMahon eventually gets the nod because of his contrast with the macho Bean.

There is a lot of initial opposition to McMahon from fans because of his nationality and metrosexual image. This turns into outright hostility when McMahon turns up on set with two gallons of moisturiser and six different pairs of tweezers. McMahonNotBond.com get particularly nasty and depict him wearing a tutu. However, when McMahon eventually gets out of makeup, he gradually begins to impress on set. There is a minor setback when prior to the gonad torture scene, the makeup department find a novel use for his tweezers. The fans views start to soften as photos and clips find there way onto the net. When the film comes out, McMahon is acclaimed as the best Bond since Patrick McGoohan. OK, I'll admit that I have completely jumped the shark at this point.


DISCLAIMER : This is a fictional work. Any resemblance between real people and actual events is purely coincidental. I like my [censored] as it is, and don't want it sued.

#72 spynovelfan

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 09:27 AM

Loved it, BB. :cooltongue:

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 12:11 AM

[quote name='Bon-san' post='707900' date='2 March 2007 - 06:18']Disclaimer: I think Roger Moore is the cat's meow, but he doesn't appear in this timeline because he was too busy with his ten film run of Saint pictures.


1962 Casino Royale

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 05:52 AM

Sean Connery:
Doctor No
From Russia With Love
Goldfinger
Thunderball
You Only Live Twice
On Her Majesty's Secret Service

Roger Moore:
Diamonds Are Forever
Live and Let Die
The Man With The Golden Gun
The Spy Who Loved Me
Moonraker

Timothy Dalton:
For Your Eyes Only
Octopussy
A View To A Kill
The Living Daylights
Licence To Kill
Goldeneye

Pierce Bronsan:
Tomorrow Never Dies
The World Is Not Enough
Die Another Day

Daniel Craig:
Casino Royale
Live And Let Die
Moonraker
Diamonds Are Forever
From Russia With Love

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 06:50 AM

Sean Connery

Dr. No
From Russia With Love
Golfinger
Thunderball
You Only Live Twice
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
Diamonds are Forever

Timothy Dalton
Live and Let Die
The Man with the Golden Gun
The Spy Who Loved Me
Moonraker
For Your Eyes Only
Octopussy
A View to a Kill

Pierce Brosnan
The Living Daylights
Licence to Kill
Property of a Lady
Goldeneye
Tomorrow Never Dies
The World is Not Enough
Die Another Day

Daniel Craig
Casino Royale
Live and Let Die
Moonraker
You Only Live Twice
The Man with the Golden Gun

As you might guess, the Craig movies are, like Casino Royale, not remakes, but new adaptations of these novels that didn't were properly put on screen.

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Posted 02 December 2007 - 11:09 AM

[font="Arial"]This is how bored I was Last Night :D

Sean Connery:

Albert R Broccoli and Harry Saltzman hired Sean Connery to play Ian Flemings Secret Agent in 1962, his first four movies did extremely well at the box office and his fifth James Bond film, The Rough With the Smooth was mediocre. Connery was dropped from role after a poor performance in 1966

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Posted 02 December 2007 - 11:33 AM

As you might guess, the Craig movies are, like Casino Royale, not remakes, but new adaptations of these novels that didn't were properly put on screen.


Seeing as this is an alternate timeline, why not just do them "right" the first time?

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 02:29 AM

"List something as if it matters."


Right there, I just about died laughing. Thank you, Jim. You're hilarious.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 03:03 AM

Luckily for coco1997 and I, we've got a good view of what we'd like to change:

SEAN CONNERY (1962-1967)
1. Dr. No (1962)
2. From Russia with Love (1963)
3. Goldfinger (1964)
4. Thunderball (1965)
5. You Only Live Twice (1967)

GEORGE LAZEBY (1969-1981)
1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969)
2. Diamonds Are Forever (1971)
3. Live and Let Die (1973)
4. The Man with the Golden Gun (1975)
5. The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
6. Moonraker (1979)
7. For Your Eyes Only (1981)

TIMOTHY DALTON (1983-1995)
1. Octopussy (1983)
2. From a View to a Kill (1985)
3. The Living Daylights (1987)
4. Licence to Kill (1989)
5. Colonel Sun (1991)
6. The Hildebrandt Rarity (1993)
7. GoldenEye (1995)

PIERCE BROSNAN (1997-2003)
1. Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)
2. The World is Not Enough (1999)
3. The Rough with the Smooth (2001)
4. Die Another Day (2003)

DANIEL CRAIG (2006-?)
1. Casino Royale (2006)

That's all for now, folks. :P:D

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 04:28 AM

I'll make another attempt at this:

Sean Connery
1962: Dr. No: More or less the same film that EON gave us. It was extremely well done, so why mess with it?

1963: Goldfinger: I'm not crazy about the film that we ultimately got with this one, but the general public seemed to like it (as well as a great number of fans), so I'll leave it alone and keep it pretty much the same.

1964: From Russia With Love: The original film is close to the novel, but I think that I would have kept the original ending from the novel.

1965: Thunderball: Keep it the same as the EON version.

1967: On Her Majesty's Secret Service: Sean Connery stars in a somewhat faithful version of Fleming's novel, but the film ends with Bond and Tracy driving away from the wedding.

1969: You Only Live Twice: A faithful adaptation of Fleming's novel. The PTS of this film would be the end of Fleming's OHMSS.

1971: The Man With The Golden Gun: Sean Connery returns for one final James Bond film in a faithful adaptation of Fleming's novel.

Timothy Dalton
1974: The Spy Who Loved Me: I would have found some way to get the rights to the original story and use Bond's appearance in the novel as the PTS to the film. The main part of the film would revolve around Bond's mission to take down a new threat from SPECTRE, which has been revived following Bond's defeat of Blofeld.

1976: Live and Let Die: Mr. Big is an agent of SPECTRE in this film, rather than self employed. In this film, Bond would once and for all take down the SPECTRE organization. Otherwise, I'd keep it very much the same as the original film.

1978: For Your Eyes Only: A film that would be very close to the original film, but with more emphasis on the rivalry between Kristatos and Columbo and less attention given, if any, to the skater trying to make it to the Olympics.

1980: Octopussy: I'd take the original plot from the film and make it a bit more serious. The clown suites and other such things would be gone, and I'd make it on a more epic scale like Thunderball.

1983: From A View To A Kill: Once again, the basic plot would stay intact, but it would be taken much more seriously.

1985: The Living Daylights: I'd keep everything the same as the original film.

1987: Licence Revoked: Same film as the original, except I'd make it look less like a TV movie and more like a bigger-budget film. Also, it would be a much more intense version than the original film.

1990: GoldenEye: In this film, Alec Trevelyan would be played by Pierce Brosnan. I'd keep the PTS the same, and have it set sometime before Licence Revoked, and then have the main body of the film based around the premise that MI6 has brought Bond back because they have lost many good agents at the hands of the Janus Syndicate and think that Bond is the only man that can take down the Syndicate.


Sean Bean
1995: Casino Royale: The Bond franchise is rebooted with Sean Bean in the lead role. The film is a somewhat faithful adaptation of Fleming's novel, with the end of the novel kept intact in the film.

1997: A Whisper of Hate: Bond begins his quest to take down the organization behind Le Chiffre. This original story would see Bond trying to determine the whereabouts of Vesper's boyfriend and determining whether or not he is a villain or a victim of Le Chiffre's organization.

1999: Moonraker: A faithful adaptation of the novel in which Drax is a member of the organization behind Le Chiffre. The ending of the novel is also kept intact.

2002: Diamonds Are Forever: Bond continues his hunt of the organization behind Le Chiffre, which he discovers the Spang Brothers are a part of. Bond's mission in this film is to track a diamond-smuggling operation that is being used to help fund the organization's activities. At the end of the film, the organization is disabled to the point that it can no longer function.

2005: Colonel Sun: A faithful, but modern, adaptation of the novel.


Daniel Craig

2007: Risico: Kristatos is replaced by Elliot Carver in this film, which is a more serious version of Tomorrow Never Dies. Anthony Hopkins is cast as Carver, and the film takes place mostly in Hamburg, Germany before moving in the third act of the film to the China where Carver's motives are very much the same as they were in the original film.

2009: The Property of a Lady: The organization behind Le Chiffre in CR is revived, and James Bond raises the stakes at an auction where an agent from the organization thinks he will be able to easily pay off someone for a job the organization wants done. This causes the payoff not to happen, which angers the organization. Half of the film uses elements from Fleming's story and the other half is an adaptation of John Gardner's Nobody Lives Forever, in which there is a competition sponsored by the organization to take down James Bond.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 04:32 AM

My radical outline...

Connery:
The Moonraker (1961)
Dr. No (1962)
From Russia With Love (1963)
Goldfinger (1964)
Thunderball (1965)

Lazenby:
You Only Live Twice (1967)
On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969)
The Dragon Within (1970)
Diamonds Are Forever (1971)

Moore:
Live and Let Die (1973)
The Man With the Golden Gun (1974)
Per Fine Ounce (1975)
The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
For Your Eyes Only (1979)
Risico (1980)
Everything or Nothing (1981)
Octopussy (1982)
For Queen & Country (1983)

Dalton:
From A View To a Kill (1985)
The Living Daylights (1987)
Licence Revoked (1989)
Colonel Sun (1990)
Meltdown (1991)
The Property of a Lady (1992)
Icebreaker (1993)
The Hildebrand Rarity (1994)
GoldenEye (1995)

Bean:
Tomorrow Never Lies (1997)
The World Is Not Enough (1999)
Nightfire (2001)
The Rough With the Smooth (2002)
Die Another Day (2003)
Shatterhand (2004)
Role of Honor (2005)
All The Time In the World (2006)

Edited by coco1997, 03 December 2007 - 04:32 AM.


#82 DamnCoffee

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 12:11 PM

Sean Connery:
Dr. No (1962)
From Russia With Love (1963)
Goldfinger (1964)
Thuunderball (1965)
The Rough With The Smooth (1966)
Shatterhand (1966)

DN, FRWL, TB - Directed By Terence Young
GF, TRWTS, SH - Directed By Guy Hamilton

George Lazenby:

Diamonds Are Forever (1967)
On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969)
You Only Live Twice (1970)

A Whisper of Love (1971)
A Whisper of Hate (1974)

DAF, OHMSS, YOLT - Directed By Peter Hunt
AWOL, AWOH - Directed By Terence Young

Roger Moore:

Live and Let Die (1975)
The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
Moonraker (1979)
Octopussy (1983)

LALD, TSWLM, MR, OP - Directed By Lewis Gilbert

Timothy Dalton:
From A View to A Kill (1985)
For Your Eyes Only (1986)
The Living Daylights (1987)
Licence Revoked (1989)
Licence Renewed (1991)

Loves Loss (1993)
GoldenEye (1995)

FAVTAK, FYEO, TLD - Directed By John Glen
LR, LR - Directed By Peter Hunt
LL, GE - Directed By Martin Campbell

Pierce Brosnan:
Tomorrow Never Lies (1997)
For Special Services (1998)
The World Is Not Enough (1999)
Live for The Moment (2000)
Die Another Day (2001)
Everything of Nothing (2004)

TNL - Directed by Roger Spottiswoode
FSS - Directed by Martin Campbell
TWINE - Directed by Michael Apted
LFTM, DAD - Directed by James Wan
EON - Directed by John Glen

Daniel Craig:
Casino Royale (2006)
Quantum of Solace (2008)
The Hildebrand Rarity (2010)

The Property of A Lady (2012)
Risico (2014)
The Man With The Golden Gun (2016)

CR, TPOAL - Directed By Martin Campbell
QOS, THR - Directed By Marc Forster
RC, TMWTGG - Directed By Christopher Nolan


Emboldened Movies (2 Parter/Trilogy)


Among the many Bond movies, 3 TV Movies have also been made:

Mondays Are Hell (2003)
Wide of the Mark (2003)
Vesper (2007)

All directed by Michael G Wilson.

MAH and WOTM use unused Elements from the Moonraker Novel and both star Pierce Brosnan as James Bond.

Vesper, stars Eva Green as Vesper Lynd in a prequel to Casino Royale before she met Bond.

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 03:36 PM

My alternative timeline would not be so far from how it turned out to be in reality:

Sean Connery
1962 - Dr No
1963 - From russia with love
1964 - Goldfinger
1965 - Thunderball
1967 - Casino Royale (If Feldman had succeded to convince Connery & EON as he tried to do it would have been reality)

George Lazenby
1969 - On her majestys secret service
1970 - You only live twice (the novel version)
1972 - Man with the golden gun (as the film but little darker/Bruce Lee as friend to Bond)
1974 - Diamonds are forever (closer to the novel)

Roger Moore
1975 - Live an let die
1977 - The spy who loved me
1979 - Moonraker (closer to the novel)
1981 - For your eyes only
1983 - Octopussy

Timothy Dalton
1985 - A view to a kill
1987 - The living daylights
1989 - License to kill
1992 - "The property of a lady"
1995 - Goldeneye

Pierce Brosnan
1997 - Tomorrow never dies
1999 - The world is not enough
2002 - Die another day (Different story)

Daniel Craig
2006 - Bond 23 (of course not Casino Royale as it is already done 1967)
an so on...

I have totally ignored NSNA as film but I was thinking of making it a BBC tv-serie instead in the 80s of the scripts...maybe.

Well, what do you think?

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 03:44 PM

It would be rather strange to have Casino Royale then On Her Majesty’s Secret Service directly after, since Bond would have to deal with losing his lover, then losing his wife. I dont think he would actually marry this soon after loosing Vesper.

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 03:54 PM

Ok, I see your point. Didn't think of it, but if we change the story a bit and pick out or make an other twist in the story with Vesper so it would work.

EDIT: If they used the ending of the Moonraker book in this CR, when Gala Brand abandoned Bond in the end but change it to Vesper it would have worked.

About MWTGG and Bruce Lee - aparently they where good friends and if Lazenby would have done Golden Gun and Bruce Lee would have been alive and the story was about the same, I would have guessed BL would be in the film.

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Posted 01 September 2008 - 02:17 AM

Some really interesting lists. Quite a lot of them I find myself agreeing with mostly.

Sean
Dr. No 62
FRWL 63
GF 64
TB 65
OHMSS 67

Laz
YOLT 69
TMWGG 71

Rog
LALD 73
DAF 74
TSWLM 77
MR 79
FYEO 81

Tim
OP 83
AVTAK 85
TLD 87
LTK 89

Pierce
GE 93
TND 95
TWINE 97
DAD 99
Col. Sun. 2002

Craig
CR 2006
Qos 2008
Etc... :(

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Posted 01 September 2008 - 10:53 AM

Sean Connery:
1. Dr. No, Terence Young
2. From Russia with Love, Terence Young
3. Goldfinger, Guy Hamilton
4. Diamonds Are Forever (closer to the novel), Guy Hamilton
5. Thunderball, Terence Young

George Lazenby
6. On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Peter R. Hunt
7. You Only Live Twice (closer to the novel), Peter R. Hunt
8. Live and Let Die, Peter R. Hunt
9. The Man with the Golden Gun, Peter R. Hunt

Roger Moore
10. The Spy Who Loved Me, Lewis Gilbert
11. Moonraker, Lewis Gilbert
12. For Your Eyes Only, John Glen
13. Octopussy, John Glen

Timothy Dalton:
14. A View to a Kill, John Glen
15. The Living Daylights, John Glen
16. Licence to Kill, John Glen

Pierce Brosnan:
17. Goldeneye, Martin Campbell
18. Tomorrow Never Dies, Roger spottiswoode
19. The World Is Not Enough, Micheal Apted
20. Die Another Day, Lee Tamahori

Daniel Craig:
21. Casino Royale, Martin Campbell
22. Quantum of Solace, Marc Forster
23. The Hildebrand Rarity, ?
24. Risico, ?
etc.

The years would be difficult. :(

Edited by ChrissBond007, 01 September 2008 - 10:59 AM.


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Posted 06 December 2008 - 10:31 AM

Sean Connery:
Dr. No (1962)
From Russia With Love (1963)
Goldfinger (1964)
On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1965)
You Only Live Twice (1967)
Thunderball (1969)
Never Say Never Again, (1983), (unofficial)

Roger Moore:
Diamonds Are Forever (1971)
Live and Let Die (1973)
The Man With The Golden Gun (1974)
The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
Moonraker (1979)
For Your Eyes Only (1981)
Octopussy (1983)


Pierce Brosnan:
A View To A Kill (1985)
The Living Daylights (1987)
Licence To Kill (1989)
Goldeneye (1995)
Tommorow Never Dies (1997)
The World Is Not Enough (1999)
Die Another Day (2002)


Daniel Craig:
Casino Royale (2006)
Quantum Of Solace (2008)
Risico (2010)
The Property Of A Lady (2012)
The Hildebrand Rarity (2014)
Colonel Sun (2016)

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 03:10 AM

My timeline would include more films for Connery, Lazenby, and Dalton. The series would be closer to the novels’ original plot and certain altercations would be made to accommodate plot holes, extra characters, and some new (but not theme-changing) subplots. For example, the character of Sylvia Trench introduced in Dr. No would be followed until Thunderball, after being given more screen time in the beginning of the film. She could possibly visit Bond at Shrubland’s after he is done with Patricia and discover that he’s cheated on her. But I digress… SPECTRE has been present in the first seven films (Diamonds Are Forever and Goldfinger could state that both The Spangled Mob and Goldfinger had connections with SPECTRE but weren’t officially members of the organization.) Then in On Her Majesty’s Secret Service & You Only Live Twice Bond marries Tracy, she gets killed by Blofeld, Bond hunts/kills Blofeld, and then he gets brainwashed. Thus, presented in the film The Man With the Golden Gun. It is Connery’s last film and it concludes with an ending that allows a new actor to replace him.

Lazenby then takes over and portrays Bond in a faithful adaptation of Moonraker and concludes his tenure in Risico. He still is the short-lived Bond, but offered a bridge between his last film to the next. Moore steps in, starring in five films. His style remains relatively the same, but his films also contain some dark content. Four out of five films remain somewhat unchanged, but From a View to a Kill retains its original plot but gains more depth and relativity. Moore then concludes his run in Octopussy due to his age.

Timothy Dalton then introduces himself into the series by first evolving from a Connery/Lazenby hybrid to his own persona. By doing so, he allows the character to change over the years to help bring him into the ‘90s. After an absence in the public's eyes due to legal troubles that span five years, Bond returns. Dalton's film total increased from two to six due to two introduction films, From a View to a Kill and Colonel Sun. He then does a sequel to Licence to Kill and stars in GoldenEye for his final films. Bronson then takes the role and uses Dalton’s approach in his first film. His films change to make them into espionage thrillers instead of action flicks. He concludes his Bond in 2003 in Talk of the Devil.

After a three year absence in the spotlight, the series is hurled back into the eyes of the public for Daniel Craig’s first film, Casino Royale. This film wouldn’t change because it would help restart the series and become a throwback to Connery’s day. It is followed by the latest 007 picture, Quantum of Solace. Craig would continue his Bond career with three other films: The Hildebrand Rarity, Per Fine Ounce, and The Undertaker’s Wind.



My Franchise Timeline:

Connery:

Dr. No 1961
From Russia With Love 1962
Diamonds Are Forever 1963
Goldfinger 1964
Thunderball 1965
On Her Majesty's Secret Service 1967
You Only Live Twice 1969
The Man With the Golden Gun 1970

Lazenby:

Moonraker 1971
Risico 1972

Moore:

Live & Let Die 1974
From a View to a Kill 1975
The Spy Who Loved Me 1977
For Your Eyes Only 1979
Octopussy 1981

Dalton:

The Property of a Lady 1983
Colonel Sun 1985
The Living Daylights 1987
Licence to Kill 1989
Licence Revoked 1994
GoldenEye 1995

Bronson:

The World Is Not Enough 1997
Tomorrow Never Lies 1999
Die Another Day 2001
Talk of the Devil 2003

Craig:

Casino Royale 2006
Quantum of Solace 2008
The Hildebrand Rarity 2010
Per Fine Ounce 2012
The Undertaker’s Wind 2014

Edited by uncanny, 07 May 2009 - 02:07 AM.