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[Shadow Syndicate]

During the 80's when my grandparents finally retired, they took their retirement out in a lump-sum and bought an RV and a Boat. About 1989 my Grandfathers years of drinking and smoking caught up with him, and he passed away. My Grandmother then sold the boat and RV to get as much money as possible and settled down in a 55+ trailer court. Sadly, when you think of places that are 55+, you automatically think "Elephant Graveyard". Which, was infact, what it was. The Trailer she had bought was built during the 60's or 70's (Probably the latter judging by the decor), and the oldlady who had it previously, had died there, as did the one before her...Only complaints anyone had about it, was that it was indeed a little icky, and smelt of cat pee(Im assuming the previous owner was the park "cat lady"), the floor was sunk-in in various locations, and that the back portion was frankly, really damn creepy, as was the yard...least to me and my brother. The Trailer was a perfect rectangle, excluding the deck and awning, and when you divided the rectangle in half, down the middle, width wise, the 'square' closest to the road was fine...it included the livingroom and kitchen, which was where i spent most of my time anyway. The other'square' was just creepy as hell. It included a dark hallway which had the sewing room, bathroom, and back bedroom branch off it. The sewing room, distinctly gave off a "Who are you, why are you here?!" sort of vibe. Strangely enough, my brother and I recently agreed over the phone, that the bathroom was perfectly fine. But, as you moved farther back, into the final room, the vibe turned into "get out!", which I had no problem obeying. I usually didn't stay there for more than a few miniutes when I had to grab my grandma her pills. One of my early memories, was going over with my dad, and sitting in the tool shed while he mowed the lawn with a pushmower. I heard a rather loud knock on the left side of the shed, which then moved to the back, and then up the right side back towards the entrence. Like someone was walking all the way around it knocking on the sides as they went. I got up and looked. No dice. My grandmother was asleep on the deck, and my dad was mowing on the other side of the house. That stayed with me. Around 1997 or 98, her health declined slightly, and she began using a walker. Around 2000 she had a fall and ended up in the hospital for a while. When she finally returned home, she began having a caretaker come over once a day. They were really nice...One of them had a female German shepard that bred Police K-9 Units. Ended up having a 'bad' batch when the neighbors Black lab jumped over the fence and shagged her. She gave us one of the puppies which i still have to this day. Anyway, another one of her caretakers was a Catholic. And to me and my brothers amazment, she said she felt "something" in the trailer, "bad ju-ju" she called it. Ended up putting a saucer of Holy water in the Sewing room, and gave my grandmother a few rosary beads to lay around. Only other person besides me and my brother who felt it. Another day when me and my brother went over to see her, she told us the night before, she'd felt something touching her lips while she layed in bed. When she went to brush whatever it was away, "it" knocked her hand back. She was convinced it was my Grandpa. Im convinced that I'll know one day. My grandmother ended up in the hospital one last time around 2002, where she stayed until July of 2004 when she died. Strange enough, I think she knew her time was up. She called my cousin a day or two before she died and apologized for a few things that happened between them, and told him how proud she was of all of us. Makes you wonder...Her status was pretty stable for the last year or so...I don't know how she could have telled. After her death, we sold her trailer to a Vietnamese couple for dirt cheap. They were very gratefull. The husband was actually a member of the Southvietnamese Army who was captured and imprisoned for many years following the war. Until the US Government payed to have them released and brought to the States. He was a proud American, and a really nice guy. After they'd been living there for a week or so, he called my father and said that the first night he spent there, he'd heard a knock on the door in the middle of the night. He went to answer it, and no one was there. But he'd smelt something really sweet as soon as he opened the door. He thought it was my Grandmother coming home one last timeSounded rather superstitious to me, but given everything that I've felt from that house, it clicks.

Thats probably my final story, I don't have all that much else to share...Like I said, I never actually saw ghosts or anything in that trailer, but I've had my share of "strange feelings" and things I just can't explain.
Hope someone enjoyed that, at least partially...or else I just wasted a good chunk of time

Edited by Shadow Syndicate, 21 August 2008 - 11:11 PM.

[gkgyver]

I think many many people are pretty sensitive and perceptive about such things, like entering a house or a certain location and feeling something, a vibe or an energy if you will; some just don't pay alot of attention to it and some do. They don't feel exatly what's wrong, just, as you say, a "get out" message.
And I wish people would trust their gut feelings a little bit more; your grandma apparently did.

[sark]

I think many many people are pretty sensitive and perceptive about such things, like entering a house or a certain location and feeling something, a vibe or an energy if you will; some just don't pay alot of attention to it and some do. They don't feel exatly what's wrong, just, as you say, a "get out" message.
And I wish people would trust their gut feelings a little bit more; your grandma apparently did.

Why, gk, are talking about Truthiness? Because you described it well. Truthiness is the fact that you feel in your gut, not that nonsense from books and empirical evidence and all the rest.

[gkgyver]

I don't quite know what you're saying. What is a "truthiness"?
I'm talking about intuition, that turns out to be correct very often for many people.

My intuition told me you were going to reply here very soon; but that was a given really ...

If you want to talk about truthiness, let me just say it seems to me you also show this quality heavily, since you want to believe all this is nonsense with no factual or solid or believable background whatsoever, you don't even bother with anything else; if you can't argue a thought, argue the person. No person will ever be respectable enough for you to believe any of it. Should a person you used to believe say he or she believed in these things, you would say "I thought he was respectable". Even if you would see facts or evidence, you wouldn't believe it since you don't wish to.
Empirically, it isn't proven, but, although you wish it, that doesn't mean it's disproven.

[sark]

I don't quite know what you're saying. What is a "truthiness"?
I'm talking about intuition, that turns out to be correct very often for many people.

Look it up, truthiness ain't hard to find.
The difference between believing something because you 'gut' tells you to, and believing something because empiricism tells you it's true is that while instinct can be right often for many people, repeatable scientific testing is right all the time for everyone.

Should a person you used to believe say he or she believed in these things, you would say "I thought he was respectable".

Is that your psychic ability talking?
How I would actually react is by saying: is what this person is saying align at all with what the vast majority of experts in that field are saying? If the answer is no, I'm inclined to assume that the 99% are right, barring some extraordinary proof.

Even if you would see facts or evidence, you wouldn't believe it since you don't wish to.

I'd like to believe in (some) paranormal stuff. I'd love for the world to be like an Indiana Jones movie.
The problem is that no evidence has been produced to lead me to that conclusion.

Empirically, it isn't proven, but, although you wish it, that doesn't mean it's disproved.

Quite true.
However, this sentence illustrates what is wrong with your thinking. the burden in not on me or scientists to disprove every fantastical claim brought forward. The burden is on you, gk, the one making the extraordinary claim. As the saying goes, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

[Aris007]

"This thread never dies", remember?

Read this:http://news.bbc.co.u...ure/3044607.stm

It's only in our minds?

[DamnCoffee]

Hmmm, I wonder how they explain Poltergeist activity.

[Aris007]

Well, ghosts never appear when you need them!

[Shadow Syndicate]

C'mon!!! more stories? Anyone? I love this thread

[sark]

"This thread never dies", remember?

Read this:http://news.bbc.co.u...ure/3044607.stm

It's only in our minds?

Let me file that with "bigfoot a hoax" and "prayer has no effect" in the 'least surprising news of the day category'.

[DamnCoffee]

Ok, this has got to be one of the freakiest things I have ever seen.



A Haunting - Demon Child

Jan and Dale Foster's six-year-old son Cody starts talking to an imaginary playmate. Soon there are strange noises and Cody's behavior becomes erratic. His sudden outbursts make Jan wonder if there is a connection to Cody's new "friend."

[DamnCoffee]

I'm gonna bump this thread up, because It does have alot of potential. Does any of you Amercian members watch 'A Haunting'?

I've seen quite a few on youtube and I think that they are brilliant. Unfortunately, there is only a Region 1 version for the DVD release. Are PS3's region free?

[danielcraigisjamesbond007]

Would you believe me if I said that there used to be a ghost in my room?

[danslittlefinger]

Would you believe me if I said that there used to be a ghost in my room?

Before I answer that, several processes of elimination have to take place:
- were you drunk?,
- were you on any substances, including cough medicine?
and:
- you don't know anybody who would throw a sheet over their head and walk around being a ghost?

If no to all, then yes, I believe.


(Actually take a walk through the Tower of London or Hampton Court and you can paplably feel that there are.)

[danielcraigisjamesbond007]

Would you believe me if I said that there used to be a ghost in my room?

Before I answer that, several processes of elimination have to take place:
- were you drunk?,
- were you on any substances, including cough medicine?
and:
- you don't know anybody who would throw a sheet over their head and walk around being a ghost?

1) I don't drink, and never have.
2) No I wasn't, and haven't.
3) No, I don't.
Sorry if that sounds a little snobbish.

[danslittlefinger]

Would you believe me if I said that there used to be a ghost in my room?

Before I answer that, several processes of elimination have to take place:
- were you drunk?,
- were you on any substances, including cough medicine?
and:
- you don't know anybody who would throw a sheet over their head and walk around being a ghost?

1) I don't drink, and never have.
2) No I wasn't, and haven't.
3) No, I don't.
Sorry if that sounds a little snobbish.

It was most certainly then a spectre.

[007½]

I have decided to remove my post, as it has emerged that it might cause some slight offence.

Edited by 007½, 20 April 2009 - 06:37 PM.

[danslittlefinger]

Gentlemen (and ladies) - we must, of course, remember that there are always perfectly logical explanations for such things.

In conclusion, and to answer the question which will undoubtedly arise, that of "why don’t all dead people become ghosts?", it might be said that they don’t because they can’t - ghosts, quite simply, do not, and cannot, exist.

Respect for your thoughts but there are many people, who are not so technically bent, that feel that they do. Your sentence and post somewhat derides other people who feel differently.

I guess it will always be a never ending argument especially when you might have seen an "unexplained sighting" happen to yourself. And yes I have and no logical explanation can account for what I saw.
I guess it's a personal thing.

[007½]

My apologies to anyone I might have offended: the post was copied more-or-less verbatim from what I posted on the fora of a game where all the people were after my guts anyway.

Once again, I apologise.

[gkgyver]

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

Part 4 with the Golden Woman is scary as hell.

People can say ghosts cannot exist as often and as loud as they want, video evidence says different.

[Matt_13]

ENCOUNTER YESTERDAY:

My girlfriends home is haunted by a ghost named Martha, who passed away in the early 20th centurday on the second floor. Yesterday, I was spending the day at her house as I always try to when I have the time and we left to go get some groceries to make lunch for eachother. When we got back her father, who had been working in the lawn trimming bushes with a chainsaw (an amusing site), was inside and did not look right. He gave us a weak smile and walked out with the dog without saying a word. Her mom comes into the room and, after making sure that the father had left, closed the door and turned to us.
"I have to ask you guys a serious question, so please be honest with me."
We both say sure and wait to see what the big deal is (praying it isn't what we think is coming).
" Sarah, your father is really shook up right now. About ten minutes ago he was throwing some of the cut branches into the woods (their house is in the middle of a heavily wooded area) and as he was about to toss the last of it in he heard a thud. He turned around and the shears he had been using were sticking up from the ground about a foot behind him. Now be honest, did you guys put that there to scare him?"
We told her no seeing as we had been gone for the last half hour and she smiled and said, "It's about time he had a Martha experience." My girlfried was unnerved and I smiled seeing as how I love this stuff. The mother leaves and we are left home alone. As we begin to eat the food we had just purchase, we hear what sounded like a slight bump, and then clear as day a girl's voice coming from the other room. I could not make out the words but my girlfriend turned very white, and I bolted to see if I could see anything. In the next room there was noone there, and outside all the cars were gone. We checked the house (much to my girlfriends dismay) and it was empty. Very spooky indeed.

[gkgyver]

Personally, I found the best way to deal with the subject and the "others" is respect. No snubbing, no denying, no fear, and certainly no degrading treatment, like they were some children fantasies come to life or something.

We do not know their motivations, their "level", and we won't until we die. So, unless it affects you in a private matter, I think simple acceptance and respect are appropriate.