Ghosts?
#1
Posted 12 February 2007 - 09:37 PM
#2
Posted 12 February 2007 - 09:44 PM
After seeing men stick needles into parts of their body (fakir) by being able to shut-off blood to the certain parts. Witnessing some unexplained lights/UFOs in the sky. I cannot rule out the existence (or non existence) of ghosts or evil spirits.
Who knows for sure what really out there.
Cheers,
Ian
#3
Posted 12 February 2007 - 10:50 PM
As a child, I took some photos in my back garden, and when they were developed one of them had what looked like a fuzzy figure, life-size and all white like yer traditional ghost, in sort of Ben Kenobi robes coming towards me across the lawn. Lost the pic years ago, but I caused quite a sensation with it at school for a while. Probably just a trick of the light or something, of course, but I have to say that, as tricks of the light go, it was a pretty darn good one.
A decade ago, as a university student on a year abroad in Beijing, I took to studying in the evenings in the classroom we used during the day. It was too distracting trying to do so in my room, because my roommate and I would get chatting or watching TV, or people would come round, and so on. There were always people coming and going in the library, and I couldn't think of anywhere else to go on campus, so I hit upon the wheeze of simply using the building where our classroom was housed. Some Korean students had a dormitory a couple of floors up, but otherwise there was no one there at that time, and it was very quiet, and no one seemed to mind my being there.
So, for a few weeks, I'd go off to this place most evenings for a couple of hours and hit the books. Not once did I see or hear another living soul. However, while nothing dramatic happened, I was sometimes vaguely aware of the feeling that I wasn't alone in the classroom, that someone was watching me. Since I knew that this couldn't possibly be the case, I thought nothing of it. Until my girlfriend, who knew some of the Korean students, told me, without my mentioning anything, that the building was said to be haunted. Apparently, it had once been a hospital, where many had died, and ghosts walked around it. The students who lived there were terrified, and everyone was trying to get alternative accommodation.
Funnily enough, I soon returned to spending my evenings watching TV and drinking beer with my roommate!
#4
Posted 12 February 2007 - 10:55 PM
I really enjoy that ITV series, and yes, I've seen a ghost.I am currently watching an episode of an english reality TV show called 'Haunted Homes' in which people try to find out if their home is haunted due to paramormal activity etc... and i was wondering if anyone here has experianced anything paramormal or even seen a ghost, i for one would be really interested to find out.
When I in my mid-teens, it's been a few years ago so cant give exact details, I was staying at my friends house. He has gone downstairs to his folks and I turned round when I saw someone behind me, the was a man there looking at me/at what I was doing and I thought he was a member of my friends family.
Well, I, naturally and clich
#5
Posted 12 February 2007 - 11:28 PM
But one thing I find really fascinating is the Deja- Vue feeling.
#6
Posted 12 February 2007 - 11:31 PM
Still, it'd be nice to have an explanation for when the hairs on the back of your neck suddenly stand on end.
#7
Posted 13 February 2007 - 12:24 AM
To me, most of the stories are the same - a figure or a deceased family member is seen fleetingly, walking by. But what is the point of coming all the way back to earth, just to walk for a few seconds, and even create uncertainty in the mind of the person you visited, as to whether or not they were dreaming it.
If I could come back as a ghost, I would go on TV and stuff! I'd tell everyone there is an afterlife.
#8
Posted 13 February 2007 - 12:54 AM
#9
Posted 13 February 2007 - 01:21 AM
Since his birth, my youngest son and I have always been very close. When the young one was but about 3 years old, I brought him inside from the summer afternoon heat for a nap on the living room couch. I gave him a bottle to placate him so he would begin to rest. As usual, I stayed until he was fast asleep. The room was quiet, no radio or TV.
At the time, I was between jobs, and for some time had been fretting over my ability to continue supporting my family. No major worries, just serious concern one goes through in a life changing event. I had not shared my thoughts on the subject with anyone in my family. A husband and father just doesn't do that sort of thing.
Fifteen minutes later, as I got up from the couch, certain that my son was indeed asleep, he rolled over, looked at me squarely in the eyes, and said in a most mature voice, "Don't worry. Everything is going to be OK for you."
He then rolled back over, and went back to his deep slumber. I must have stood there for 5 minutes staring at him, and wondering what had just happened. That was not my 3 year old son speaking to me. There was something in his eyes and tone of voice that reminded me of my deceased mother (6 years earlier).
Is there life after death? Certainly.
#10
Posted 13 February 2007 - 01:57 AM
#11
Posted 13 February 2007 - 06:16 AM
When I in my mid-teens, it's been a few years ago so cant give exact details, I was staying at my friends house. He has gone downstairs to his folks and I turned round when I saw someone behind me, the was a man there looking at me/at what I was doing and I thought he was a member of my friends family.
Well, I, naturally and clich
#12
Posted 13 February 2007 - 12:49 PM
#13
Posted 13 February 2007 - 01:16 PM
If ghosts were to exist, then why would they be wearing clothes? Clothes have no soul, nor do they ever live. If a ghost was to be seen, there's more of a chance it would be naked in a humanoid form, or it would be a gaseous, misty shape.
Those who have seen clothed figures, there is also a possibility of 'recordings'. It may be possible that someone's movements or actions are somehow 'recorded' in time, and 'played back' every now and again. Hence, clothed ghosts are merely repeated images from the past.
I am uncertain of life after death. Of course, I would like to believe in an afterlife. Only time can tell.
#14
Posted 13 February 2007 - 06:43 PM
#15
Posted 13 February 2007 - 09:18 PM
I was working in a cafe there. One day this elderly guy in janitor clothes came in, and from the kitchen I could see him walking behind the counter.
As I entered the cafe to check what he wanted, he had vanished. The people sitting nearby, had seen no one.
I forgot about the incident, until the same thing happened again.
It turned out two of my co-workers had encountered a man who fit the same description.
The janitor had met him and felt his hand on hiss sshoulder on the third floor.(Where I had alsso heard door handles rattling when alone in the house)
The guy ressponsible for booking bands, had walked into the pool room one day, and sseen a similar man there, ssaying "I
#16
Posted 13 February 2007 - 10:57 PM
I'm not trying to be a smart*ss or anything, but why would you turn away if some unknown person was standing at your door or asking you a question? I've found that most ghost stories don't make sense or can easily be explained.
#17
Posted 14 February 2007 - 01:03 AM
Those who have seen clothed figures, there is also a possibility of 'recordings'. It may be possible that someone's movements or actions are somehow 'recorded' in time, and 'played back' every now and again. Hence, clothed ghosts are merely repeated images from the past.
Yes, I find that concept easier to believe in, than ghosts. I have heard people who live in large houses occasionally hear a ball, or a banquet happening in their dining room, and some believe it is just a moment from the past replaying itself for a few seconds (almost like a long overdue echo).
#18
Posted 14 February 2007 - 01:36 AM
It looks like your keyboard may be haunted!
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I had a ghostly experience as a young lad. On a trip to my grandparents in the Maryland farmland, we went to my great-grandfather's home. For some reasonI was fasinated with his old oil-burning lamp in the dining room, and he told me if I could refurbish one, there were some from our family in the attic I could choose from. I picked a nice one, and at home we loosened the screw and put in a new wick, bought a new glass "chimney" for it and made it good as new.
I kept the lamp in my bedroom, and shortly after its refurb I was awoken in the middle of the night and wasn't sure why I jolted awake so suddenly. As I scanned the room, there were two ghostly female-like figures that appeared to be examining the lamp. Scared me stiff - standing hair on the neck, lack of breath, everything. I laid awake and didn't move or make a sound. Eventually I must have fallen back to sleep, and the next morning told my mother about it. She talked to my grandmother who said she was surprised when she saw the lamp I was allowed to take and that we should talk to my great-grandfather.
Turns out this lamp belonged to aunts of his that died before he was born, and is from the civil war era (as was his house - he lived to 96 and died around 1980 and had grown up in the house). There was plenty of action in that part of the state - they are less than 30 miles south of Gettysburg, and while the farm buildings survived the troop movements, the two aunts had not.
I never got much of an explanation about this lamp and those aunts, but I wasn't the first person to have noticed their interest in it, and that was why it was stored forever in his attic. I felt better after hearing the history of the lamp, and I still own it (just checked on it, still love the simple lines and heavy weight of the glass) - but that thing hasn't been in a bedroom of mine since!
#19
Posted 14 February 2007 - 03:45 AM
Personally, while I'm spooked by the idea of ghosts and spirits and am not a complete skeptic, I tend to think that most "mystical" experiences have scientific explanations that may reach beyond the boundaries of what we have already discovered and learned.
I tend to think that many experiences can be attributed to dreamlike states or brief moments created by the brain in the same manner in which dreams are; they seem completely real, but are in fact 100% falsified by a firing of the synapses. I think there might very well be physical or chemical properties of buildings or areas thought to be "haunted" that might cause or encourage such delusions, which explains how different people will experience visions or other phenomena in the same place, without any prior suggestion. Perhaps, too, people may have been told/heard about such phenomena before in that place, but never stored the information in their conscious memories, only in their subconscious. (Incidentally, I think this accounts for a lot of things - deja vu, that situation where you think of something for the first time in years and it suddenly shows up everywhere, et cetera.)
Just my two cents.
#20
Posted 14 February 2007 - 04:25 AM
#21
Posted 14 February 2007 - 11:30 AM
I personally do not believe in this sort of thing.
I'm not trying to be a smart*ss or anything, but why would you turn away if some unknown person was standing at your door or asking you a question? I've found that most ghost stories don't make sense or can easily be explained.
Well its a natural human reaction to look away from something that scares you or disturbs you.
#22
Posted 14 February 2007 - 01:37 PM
I cant really say, that I believe in the ghosts. But as a kid, and after multiple times of viewing Ghostbusters, me and my friend really thought tthat ghosts might exist. I can clearly remember, how we tried to imitate ghostbusters, checking cars and objects with some child like ghost detectors, made from legos and some electronic parts.
Then there was this occation when my grandpa had just resently slept away, and our family was gathered at this old summerhouse after the funeral ceremony , and there was this mini tornado going across the field, and my grandma strongy believed it was the spirit of my dead grandpa.
I have no personal experiences, so I cant really say.
#23
Posted 14 February 2007 - 04:29 PM
As one opens the front door, there is immediately a straight set of stairs on the right, going up and forward to Wes' room. On the left, it is a long hall that goes straight to the back of the house. The other rooms (kitchen, living room, dining room) all branch off of this main hall. Toward the back are the bedrooms. THree on the left, one master on the right, again branching off of the main hall. Wes' older sister had occupied the last bedroom on the left, but had since moved out, so it was vacant.
So, as we entered, we were laughing until Wes stopped dead in his tracks, staring straight ahead. As we all looked, we saw what looked like a girl about our age (and in the moonlight, she appeared to be lit only in shades of light blue) walk out of that unoccupied bedroom, the last on the left, and turn "her" head to look at us. But there was no face. I'm serious. No face. Then "she" slowly turned back and walked back into the bedroom.
So, of course, we BOLTED. Wes, at the time, was the national amateur jujitsu champion, and was aspiring to be a UFC fighter, so he wasn't exactly a crybaby. But he was definitely crying that night. We immediately went to another friend's house next door and got his 12-gauge and cleared Wes' house, room to room. Nothing. No one. We stuck around and hung out over there with Wes until late, then went home, and Wes never saw it again.
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Personally, and I'm sure I will lose all credibility with folks (but oh well!), I don't believe in entirely benevolent ghosts, as in ghosts of real people, but I believe "ghosts" are demons and as such can take form of someone or something familiar to influence people. I also believe that God can speak through people, and that people have seen angels appear to be real living people for a very immediate and neccessary purpose. He's definitely spoken to me that way (through other people, and in my own ear), but that's all according to what I believe and I wouldn't force anybody else to take the same position. I'm just one who believes spiritual warfare is going on unseen around us all the time. So, I'm sorry if I shed a bad light on any one of you who knows they saw or heard a relative or something, but that's just my take. You don't have to agree.
But I hope you at least like the story. I didn't make any of it up.
#24
Posted 15 February 2007 - 02:17 PM
Those who have seen clothed figures, there is also a possibility of 'recordings'. It may be possible that someone's movements or actions are somehow 'recorded' in time, and 'played back' every now and again. Hence, clothed ghosts are merely repeated images from the past.
Yes, I find that concept easier to believe in, than ghosts. I have heard people who live in large houses occasionally hear a ball, or a banquet happening in their dining room, and some believe it is just a moment from the past replaying itself for a few seconds (almost like a long overdue echo).
Do you hear how sci-fi that sounds? A recording...
Not to come off as cheeky to you but if you find plausibility in that explanation then you may as well believe in ghosts.
As a young child, I saw a friend of my grandfather's, who had lived down the street from us and had recently passed, staring in my bedroom window. It was just for a moment but I know I saw it but never said anything about it the next morning for fear of getting teased by my moronic, older brother. lol
When my son was a toddler I remember him pointing at my bedroom and smiling stating that a woman(we assumed it was his grandmother) was sitting on our bed waving at him. He doesn't remember now when I bring it up to him though...
#25
Posted 15 February 2007 - 05:12 PM
#26
Posted 17 February 2007 - 07:12 PM
I know there are pixelated, i did have to zoom in
The first is, i think, an outline of a woman
The Second, i can make out victorian dress in the center of the picture
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#27
Posted 17 February 2007 - 07:37 PM
I was out today taking photographs of old houses for my art GCSE examination. Look at these pics.... i think these are ghosts, i have yet to convince my parents of this, what do you guys think?
I know there are pixelated, i did have to zoom in
The first is, i think, an outline of a woman
The Second, i can make out victorian dress in the center of the picture
It's really hard to say; one can interpret what he/she wants to I guess from these two pics.
Not questioning my beliefs in spirits but I'm sure that these can be rationalized by those here...or maybe I'm not seeing the same thing that you are.
#28
Posted 17 February 2007 - 08:47 PM
#29
Posted 18 February 2007 - 07:57 AM
i think i might see something in the second pic. But its hard to tell with the pixilationI was out today taking photographs of old houses for my art GCSE examination. Look at these pics.... i think these are ghosts, i have yet to convince my parents of this, what do you guys think?
I know there are pixelated, i did have to zoom in
The first is, i think, an outline of a woman
The Second, i can make out victorian dress in the center of the picture
#30
Posted 22 February 2007 - 02:33 AM