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[DavidSomerset]

Helen Mirren as Q.

[kneelbeforezod]

Closing the book on [the Risico] rumour, Wade said it is ‘not the case.’

I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so.

All they said is it wasn't going to be based on Risico, but we already fricken knew that considering it was previously used for For Your Eyes Only. It's still possible that Risico will be used for the title. CBn's article is written in such a way that it makes it seem like they rejected the rumor of the title too. They did not.

Let it go! Why would they not use the story, and then bend over backwards to use said story's crap title?

Just my opinion admittedly, but I'm absolutely convinced it won't be the title.

[JCRendle]

It's better than Octopussy

[dodge]

It's better than Octopussy

So many things are. Can I never forget the damned clown scene?

[Judo chop]

It's better than Octopussy

So many things are. Can I never forget the damned clown scene?

Sure you can. Just think about the gorilla costume instead.

[Santa]

'm just pleased to see that P & W noticed that the bar was in fact raised in CR. I'm slightly disturbed by the fact that they're involved in Bond 22 at all, but after CR I'm prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt.

[killkenny kid]

'm just pleased to see that P & W noticed that the bar was in fact raised in CR. I'm slightly disturbed by the fact that they're involved in Bond 22 at all, but after CR I'm prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt.

indeed, I just want to see, them do it again.

[Single-O-Seven]

I think we may see Moneypenny back, just not right away. If that idea floating around the boards here about Villiers being a mole ended up being used, then we can bet Villiers would pay for it at Bond's hand. Then M would require a new assistant... enter Moneypenny. Say this thought were true, and Villiers was killed in Bond 22 or 23, I could see Moneypenny's introduction coming near the end of that film, paving the way for her involvement in the future. Not that I'm necessarily hoping for that...

[Qwerty]

It's better than Octopussy

So many things are.

Not too many more Bond films in my opinion.

[kneelbeforezod]

'm just pleased to see that P & W noticed that the bar was in fact raised in CR. I'm slightly disturbed by the fact that they're involved in Bond 22 at all, but after CR I'm prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt.

My biggest concern is whether or not someone else gets to polish the script.

How does it work normally, presumably no decision is made on a script polish until P&W turn in their draft? It might happen...

[DLibrasnow]

So many things are. Can I never forget the damned clown scene?

And what disguise would you use at a circus?

[K1Bond007]

[quote name='kneelbeforezod' post='695281' date='30 January 2007 - 08:15'][quote name='K1Bond007' post='694877' date='29 January 2007 - 18:42'][quote name='neversaynever' post='694633' date='28 January 2007 - 23:50']Closing the book on [the Risico] rumour, Wade said it is

[Santa]

'm just pleased to see that P & W noticed that the bar was in fact raised in CR. I'm slightly disturbed by the fact that they're involved in Bond 22 at all, but after CR I'm prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt.

My biggest concern is whether or not someone else gets to polish the script.

That's what worries me too. It seemed obvious to me that CR was not all their own work so I hope they don't get too carried away with its success and decide they can do it alone.

[kneelbeforezod]

Let it go! Why would they not use the story, and then bend over backwards to use said story's crap title?

Just my opinion admittedly, but I'm absolutely convinced it won't be the title.

?? It may not be the title. I'm not advocating either way, all I'm saying is they didn't reject it as a title.

Ah, in which case my apologies, I thought you were one of the people campaigning for "Risico"

Why would they use the title, but not the story? There are many reasons. Look at the franchise's past. They've done it before. The Spy Who Loved Me for starters. The abbreviated A View to a Kill, Octopussy. It doesn't matter why. At some point (Bond 22, Bond 30, Bond 40 whatever), I believe they'll use as many of the unused Fleming titles that can be appropriate. Why shouldn't they?

The other titles you mention were either famous because of the Fleming book they took the title from, or they at least sounded Bondian. And I don't think I need to explain why "Octopussy" is appropriate for a Roger Moore Bond film.

My point is that "Risico" is so bad that if they aren't going to use the story, then there are no pressing reasons to use the title.

It's not famous as a Fleming book, and it doesn't sound sexy or Bondian.

It sounds like a healthy cereal. There's simply no reason to use it. (IMO, of course)

Edited by kneelbeforezod, 31 January 2007 - 08:24 PM.

[K1Bond007]

Let it go! Why would they not use the story, and then bend over backwards to use said story's crap title?

Just my opinion admittedly, but I'm absolutely convinced it won't be the title.

?? It may not be the title. I'm not advocating either way, all I'm saying is they didn't reject it as a title.

Ah, in which case my apologies, I thought you were one of the people campaigning for "Risico"

Why would they use the title, but not the story? There are many reasons. Look at the franchise's past. They've done it before. The Spy Who Loved Me for starters. The abbreviated A View to a Kill, Octopussy. It doesn't matter why. At some point (Bond 22, Bond 30, Bond 40 whatever), I believe they'll use as many of the unused Fleming titles that can be appropriate. Why shouldn't they?

The other titles you mention were either famous because of the Fleming book they took the title from, or they at least sounded Bondian. And I don't think I need to explain why "Octopussy" is appropriate for a Roger Moore Bond film.

My point is that "Risico" is so bad that if they aren't going to use the story, then there are no pressing reasons to use the title.

It's not famous as a Fleming book, and it doesn't sound sexy or Bondian.

It sounds like a healthy cereal. There's simply no reason to use it. (IMO, of course)

In your opinion. I don't want to get into another argument about this. Risico in my opinion sounds quite Bondian - not a Roger Moore flick like Octopussy, but a Daniel Craig 'dangerous' sounding title.

I support it as a future title for a film, but I wasn't specifically advocating it here. That wasn't the point to my post.

[kneelbeforezod]

In your opinion. I don't want to get into another argument about this.

Yes... hence why I wrote "IMO", which is geek speak for "in my opinion", I made a special effort to emphasise it was just my opinion!

[K1Bond007]

In your opinion. I don't want to get into another argument about this.

Yes... hence why I wrote "IMO", which is geek speak for "in my opinion", I made a special effort to emphasise it was just my opinion!

I was emphasizing it considering we've had this argument before. I'm well aware of "IMO".

[Blonde Bond]

That's the spirit! After Casino Royale I dont really see any need for Q or Moneypenny, at this point.

Sure, it'll be okay, when they're actually needed. But I have a strong feeling this future Bond flick doesn't have any need for either of them. Just like in the books. Why use something, that aint adding anything to the story?

Let's just hope they can come up with a good script.

[dodge]

So many things are. Can I never forget the damned clown scene?

And what disguise would you use at a circus?

Lion tamer...Stage hand...Cop...American Idol contestant?

[Jackanaples]

While I'm no fan of OCTOPUSSY (or Roger Moore's Bond), please note that it was Ian Fleming's idea to have a man dressed as a clown fighting for his life whilst an audience laughs mistaking his actions for comedy. I don't believe he ever wrote it, but I know he mentioned it in an interview.

[zencat]

While I'm no fan of OCTOPUSSY (or Roger Moore's Bond), please note that it was Ian Fleming's idea to have a man dressed as a clown fighting for his life whilst an audience laughs mistaking his actions for comedy. I don't believe he ever wrote it, but I know he mentioned it in an interview.

Really? Now that's interesting.

Surprisingly, their first collaboration came in a music band. “As we were failing as rock ‘n roll people, we started writing screenplays as a sort of side line to make some money and express ourselves. We still regard screenwriting as only a side line. We still hope to make it as musicians.”

This is a joke, right?

[Roebuck]

While I'm no fan of OCTOPUSSY (or Roger Moore's Bond), please note that it was Ian Fleming's idea to have a man dressed as a clown fighting for his life whilst an audience laughs mistaking his actions for comedy. I don't believe he ever wrote it, but I know he mentioned it in an interview.

Really? Now that's interesting.

It's in one of Fleming's notebooks. There's a idea of a fight between Bond and an assassin that takes place at an embassy party. Both 007 and the other man are disguised in clown costumes, so (as Jackanaples mentions) the party guest all think it's part of the entertainment and stand around watching.

[PrinceKamalKhan]

I don't mind waiting not having Q but please Purvis & Wade, bring in Miss Moneypenny. I have this feeling Craig will probably only do 3 at most and I'd like the majority of his films to include her character.

[DaveBond21]

I think Daniel Craig with Moneypenny would be a good scene - not unlike the scene between Bond & Vesper on the train in CR.

[00Twelve]

I'd be excited to see many of Fleming's MI6 characters, like Tanner, Molony, Moneypenny, and Loelia, if they serve a purpose. Maybe Boothroyd (as Boothroyd) could be there too, but if he is, I wouldn't want to see him in Bond 23. I don't mind Moneypenny being there, but tradition in this case serves no purpose but to give the fans warm fuzzies. If the innuendo starts back up, it will be a step downhill.

[RazorBlade]

I'm part of the no-Q and no-MP party. They are part of another era. Whatever title EON uses I hope, and actually have some faith in them, that it will be a good one.

As for the story? As long as it's a whopper of a story, I'm good.

The clown thing in IF's notebook is intriguing because it would be so hard to pull off. I like the aspect of a crowd standing around watching men fight and no one intervenes because the crowd take it as entertainment. This has happened in a number of true crime cases. It's like the scene Hitchcock wanted to film someday; the hero goes to an auto plant to investigate a murder. He interviews the foreman while a car is being built right in front of them. When the car is finished, the foreman asks the hero if he will drive it off the line. The hero opens the door and a corpse falls out!

Hitch and IF are awesome.

[manfromjapan]

Can you post me a link to the Fleming clown idea? Can i buy a book with this info in it?
Cheers.

[Qwerty]

While I'm no fan of OCTOPUSSY (or Roger Moore's Bond), please note that it was Ian Fleming's idea to have a man dressed as a clown fighting for his life whilst an audience laughs mistaking his actions for comedy. I don't believe he ever wrote it, but I know he mentioned it in an interview.

Really? Now that's interesting.

It's in one of Fleming's notebooks. There's a idea of a fight between Bond and an assassin that takes place at an embassy party. Both 007 and the other man are disguised in clown costumes, so (as Jackanaples mentions) the party guest all think it's part of the entertainment and stand around watching.

Interesting. I love hearing about these Fleming bits that seem to go unnoticed.

[Righty007]

Helen Mirren as Q.

She's not that Q'ute.

John Gardner reference...

[White'sClub]

I'd like to see Moneypenny in but retired like Beryl Reid in Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy. Living in some run-down Maida Vale flat with her cats. Someone Bond goes to for her encyclopaedic knowledge of the service.