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[Eva]

Jonathan Ross is hosting the BAFTAs so hopefully will manage to get at least one DC joke in somewhere!

Does anyone know the bookies odds on DC winning?
(read recently that Peter O'Toole could be dark horse)

[Zorin Industries]

So - Daniel Craig has now won the Evening Standard Best Actor Award....

How does that leave him at the BAFTA podium next Sunday?

I'm going to make my predictions this week. He may have as good as chance as any. Not because of the Evening Standard nod, but because everyone else in his category is so obviously award-hungry, the underdog could slip through.

[dodge]

[quote name='Zorin Industries' date='5 February 2007 - 16:02' post='697661']
So - Daniel Craig has now won the Evening Standard Best Actor Award....

How does that leave him at the BAFTA podium next Sunday?

I'm going to make my predictions this week. He may have as good as chance as any. Not because of the Evening Standard nod, but because everyone else in his category is so obviously award-hungry, the underdog could slip through.[/quote

That's interesting--and refreshing--to hear. In the U.S. it's the norm for actors and directors to lobby and even grovel for prizes. Martin Scorcese will probably for a pompous remake of a dynamite Korean thriller...simply to shut the man up.

[Zorin Industries]

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That's interesting--and refreshing--to hear. In the U.S. it's the norm for actors and directors to lobby and even grovel for prizes. Martin Scorcese will probably for a pompous remake of a dynamite Korean thriller...simply to shut the man up.
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That's a tad unfair on Scorsese. I think he will survive very well without an Oscar, thank you. There just comes a point when it becomes rude.

Daniel Craig's BAFTA chances are slim. BUT - the Bond series has been everyone's guilty cinematic pleasure for over 40 years, including BAFTA voters. And the fact he is in the list at all says something.

[JCRendle]

I saw an interview with the BAFTA director guy who was talking about Casino Royale and how it was a fresh film ect. and how Craig exceeded everyone's expectations. Maybe a clue?

[Vauxhall]

I saw an interview with the BAFTA director guy who was talking about Casino Royale and how it was a fresh film ect. and how Craig exceeded everyone's expectations. Maybe a clue?

Let's hope so!

[blabbyboy]

So - Daniel Craig has now won the Evening Standard Best Actor Award....

How does that leave him at the BAFTA podium next Sunday?

I'm going to make my predictions this week. He may have as good as chance as any. Not because of the Evening Standard nod, but because everyone else in his category is so obviously award-hungry, the underdog could slip through.

That's interesting--and refreshing--to hear. In the U.S. it's the norm for actors and directors to lobby and even grovel for prizes. Martin Scorcese will probably for a pompous remake of a dynamite Korean thriller...simply to shut the man up.

It was a Hong Kong thriller, not a Korean thriller!!!

[Zorin Industries]

Well, as the time is drawing close when CASINO ROYALE forgets for one night that awards do not really matter and gets its trophy hopes up I thought I'd try and "predict" how many BAFTAS 007 will be taking back to his Chelsea pad on Sunday.




THE ALEXANDER KORDA AWARD for the Outstanding British Film of the Year
CASINO ROYALE - Michael G Wilson/Barbara Broccoli/Martin Campbell/Neal Purvis/Robert Wade/Paul Haggis
THE LAST KING OF SCOTLAND - Andrea Calderwood/Lisa Bryer/Charles Steel/Kevin Macdonald/Peter Morgan/Jeremy Brock
NOTES ON A SCANDAL - Scott Rudin/Robert Fox/Richard Eyre/Patrick Marber
THE QUEEN - Andy Harries/Christine Langan/Tracey Seaward/Stephen Frears/Peter Morgan
UNITED 93 - Tim Bevan/Lloyd Levin/Paul Greengrass

A tough category. There's a great deal of worthy film making here mixed with Judi Dench anointing yet another performance in NOTES ON A SCANDAL. THE QUEEN will win few awards for Best Film. It was a TV movie upgraded at the last hurdle and it does show. UNITED 93 is the one to beat here. A stunning film about a stunning subject.


THE CARL FOREMAN AWARD for Special Achievement by a British Director, Writer or Producer in their First Feature Film
ANDREA ARNOLD (Director) - Red Road
JULIAN GILBEY (Director) - Rollin' with the Nines
CHRISTINE LANGAN (Producer) - Pierrepoint
GARY TARN (Director) - Black Sun
PAUL ANDREW WILLIAMS (Director) - London to Brighton

Though obviously not a BOND film, LONDON TO BRIGHTON is one of the best British films in forty years and Willams deserves this award. Andrea Arnold is his nearest rival and she swept the awards up last year.


THE DAVID LEAN AWARD for Achievement in Direction
BABEL - Alejandro Gonz

Edited by Zorin Industries, 06 February 2007 - 04:25 PM.

[Zorin Industries]

Jonathan Ross is hosting the BAFTAs so hopefully will manage to get at least one DC joke in somewhere!

Does anyone know the bookies odds on DC winning?
(read recently that Peter O'Toole could be dark horse)

I normally don't mind Jonathan Ross on comedy panel shows, but his film reviewing skills are dire. He munches through a verbal thesaurus like a sixth former delivering a film essay. He's the perfect example of why film fans shouldn't always be THAT involved in their past times.

[JCRendle]

=He's the perfect example of why film fans shouldn't always be THAT involved in their past times.

I do find it fresh that he is a fan over a professional critic, meaning he can look at the films from our (and his childrens) level.

[Vauxhall]

Does anyone know the bookies odds on DC winning?

Sky Bet:
Forest Whitaker - 1/4
Peter O'Toole - 3/1
Daniel Craig - 14/1
Leonardo Di Caprio - 14/1
Richard Griffiths - 28/1

Betfair:
Forest Whitaker - 1/3
Peter O'Toole - 2/1
Leonardo Di Caprio - 8/1
Daniel Craig - 11/1
Richard Griffiths - 14/1

Paddy Power:
Forest Whitaker - 1/5
Peter O'Toole - 10/3
Daniel Craig - 10/1
Leonardo Di Caprio - 25/1
Richard Griffiths - 50/1

[Zorin Industries]

=He's the perfect example of why film fans shouldn't always be THAT involved in their past times.

I do find it fresh that he is a fan over a professional critic, meaning he can look at the films from our (and his childrens) level.

His tastes can be very basic - as are his interviewing skills. His brother Paul Ross gets cinema so much more than his sibling. I remember he once said that watching a good film should make you slightly sad because it is the only time you will watch that film for the first time. I can identify with that.

[Eva]

Does anyone know the bookies odds on DC winning?

Sky Bet:
Forest Whitaker - 1/4
Peter O'Toole - 3/1
Daniel Craig - 14/1
Leonardo Di Caprio - 14/1
Richard Griffiths - 28/1

Betfair:
Forest Whitaker - 1/3
Peter O'Toole - 2/1
Leonardo Di Caprio - 8/1
Daniel Craig - 11/1
Richard Griffiths - 14/1

Paddy Power:
Forest Whitaker - 1/5
Peter O'Toole - 10/3
Daniel Craig - 10/1
Leonardo Di Caprio - 25/1
Richard Griffiths - 50/1

Thanks for posting that!
So I guess I shouldn't expect DC to win then - I thought his odds would have been shorter than that - looks like it's going to be Forest.

My hubbie doesn't think CR will win anything (expect possibly Eva Green as a lot of people haven't even heard of the other noms in her catagory) and I shouldn't be disappointed as the 9 noms are amazing. Think I'll watch 24 on Sunday & get results after - I'm not good with tension!

With regard to Jonathan Ross - I like the way he reviews films as a fan rather than a stuffy critic - and he's the only person I've seen interviewing DC who can make him completely at ease & laugh out loud.

Edited by Eva, 08 February 2007 - 10:10 AM.

[RazorBlade]

I haven't seen all the BAFTA or Oscar nom'd films so it's hard for me to say who should win or not. I saw BABEL and must say that while some parts of that film were outstanding, there were, er, lapses shall we say. CR was without a doubt one of the best films of the year, as a film. As a complete film experience.

I, too, have hoped that CR would receive some Oscar nods. That it didn't receive any reminds me of the bitterness of last year when the superior SERENITY was passed up as well.

Otherwise break a leg Team CR on 11/02/07!

[Zorin Industries]

I haven't seen all the BAFTA or Oscar nom'd films so it's hard for me to say who should win or not. I saw BABEL and must say that while some parts of that film were outstanding, there were, er, lapses shall we say. CR was without a doubt one of the best films of the year, as a film. As a complete film experience.

I, too, have hoped that CR would receive some Oscar nods. That it didn't receive any reminds me of the bitterness of last year when the superior SERENITY was passed up as well.

Otherwise break a leg Team CR on 11/02/07!

SERENITY...? Not sure that was an award contender...

[RazorBlade]

SERENITY was and wasn't. It's my personal perference but I think SERENITY was the best movie of 2005. Superior in acting, writing, direction, everything. It should have been nominated. Just like CR. The only diff is that CR is much more sucessful financially.

[Eva]

You can watch the BAFTA red carpet online between 4.30pm to 5.30pm GMT on Sunday.
http://www1.orange.c...m/redCarpet.php

[Zorin Industries]

You can watch the BAFTA red carpet online between 4.30pm to 5.30pm GMT on Sunday.
http://www1.orange.c...m/redCarpet.php

Oh good, more time to see Daniel Craig's effervescent, media friendly girlfriend...!

But thanks for the link...

[Zorin Industries]

Any other posters care to predict ROYALE's chances of golden-faced men tonight in the heart of London's glittering West End? (!).

It's THE QUEEN Vs BOND apparently....

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

I saw an interview with the BAFTA director guy who was talking about Casino Royale and how it was a fresh film ect. and how Craig exceeded everyone's expectations. Maybe a clue?

Let's hope so!

It deserves it. Considering also how Craig and the production where treated by the media leading up to release. It's pretty undeniable that Casino Royale IS the film of the year(2006) in the UK.

[kneelbeforezod]

His tastes can be very basic - as are his interviewing skills. His brother Paul Ross gets cinema so much more than his sibling. I remember he once said that watching a good film should make you slightly sad because it is the only time you will watch that film for the first time. I can identify with that.

Are we talking about the same Ross brothers?! Paul Ross has a terrible reputation as a film reviewer, as Wikipedia puts it:

"In Britain, Paul Ross writes a weekly column, which has been criticised for "Quote Whoring". He is known for giving glowing reviews for films which generally received poor reviews among peer critics."

Jonathan Ross certainly doesn't strike me as someone with "basic tastes"; he's a connoisseur of cult cinema and a genuine film lover as far as I can tell. And for the record, he adored Casino Royale. And if it's choice between him and Barry Norman...

[Zorin Industries]

His tastes can be very basic - as are his interviewing skills. His brother Paul Ross gets cinema so much more than his sibling. I remember he once said that watching a good film should make you slightly sad because it is the only time you will watch that film for the first time. I can identify with that.

Are we talking about the same Ross brothers?! Paul Ross has a terrible reputation as a film reviewer, as Wikipedia puts it:

"In Britain, Paul Ross writes a weekly column, which has been criticised for "Quote Whoring". He is known for giving glowing reviews for films which generally received poor reviews among peer critics."

Jonathan Ross certainly doesn't strike me as someone with "basic tastes"; he's a connoisseur of cult cinema and a genuine film lover as far as I can tell. And for the record, he adored Casino Royale. And if it's choice between him and Barry Norman...

Yes, but surely being a "connoisseur of cult cinema" is not enough to front the BBC's flagship film programme? Yes, he adored CASINO ROYALE, but that is odd as he usually lambasts anything that is over 90 mins and not based on a cult comic or material he knows from before. He also has a reputation for not 'getting' films which is often about a disability to understand anything with a celebral and literal mindset. Don't get me wrong. I like the guy. I just think his film reviewing skills reek of a thesaurus-led sixth former. He really shouldn't use flowery language on his film show that he is not quite sure of. And it is not language he uses on his Friday night chat show which - when he lets a guest speak - is a good, very necessary Friday night slot on the BBC.

But then maybe I shouldn't judge Jonathan Ross on his film reviewing skills when his real passion and zest for cinema is stifled by a format he should never been cast in. It's a bit like Paul Ross. Forget his tabloid column. That is spin for the sake of spin. And we all have to pay the bills...

And I personally would never regard Wikipedia as the last word in internet insight. It's a great tool, but one that is written and edited by as many people who can access it to read.

And whilst we are on the subject of "quote whoring" (great phrase by the way....), I seem to remember it was JONATHAN Ross and not Paul who - for a dare - splattered a review of BATMAN FOREVER with the phrase "the best film ever made" in the vain hope it would become a quote on the poster. And it was...

Edited by Zorin Industries, 11 February 2007 - 07:03 PM.

[kneelbeforezod]

Yes, he adored CASINO ROYALE, but that is odd as he usually lambasts anything that is over 90 mins and not based on a cult comic or material he knows from before. He also has a reputation for not 'getting' films

I'm sorry but that is just ludicrous. To pluck 2 examples from recent memory, he loved Notes on a Scandal and Last King of Scotland.

It's a bit like Paul Ross. Forget his tabloid column. That is spin for the sake of spin. And we all have to pay the bills...

Forget his tabloid column? But isn't that the whole basis of his film reviewing credentials?

That is spin for the sake of spin. And we all have to pay the bills...

So you let Paul Ross off when he does it for a living, but when Jonathan Ross does it for a joke/dare, you don't?

And I personally would never regard Wikipedia as the last word in internet insight.

Neither would I. But I will use it to support a widely held view that I've heard from several people over the years, namely that Paul Ross is a bit of a laughing stock when it comes to film reviews, and that his brother is pretty good on Film 2007. You're honestly the first person I've ever met that had it the other way round.

Still, each to his own I guess

[planearm]

Well done to Eva Green! She looked really surprised at winning.

[Vauxhall]

Well done to Eva Green! She looked really surprised at winning.

The surprise was surely because she's a good actress But agreed on the congratulations; she certainly deserved this. The one award from the BAFTAs that I had most confidence in CASINO ROYALE winning. Oh and also congratulations to all who voted for her! Very well deserved Ms Green.

[Qwerty]

Now on the CBn main page...

Casino Royale Wins Two BAFTA Awards

Best Sound and a Rising Star award for Eva Green

[Zorin Industries]

Yes, he adored CASINO ROYALE, but that is odd as he usually lambasts anything that is over 90 mins and not based on a cult comic or material he knows from before. He also has a reputation for not 'getting' films

I'm sorry but that is just ludicrous. To pluck 2 examples from recent memory, he loved Notes on a Scandal and Last King of Scotland.

It's a bit like Paul Ross. Forget his tabloid column. That is spin for the sake of spin. And we all have to pay the bills...

Forget his tabloid column? But isn't that the whole basis of his film reviewing credentials?

That is spin for the sake of spin. And we all have to pay the bills...

So you let Paul Ross off when he does it for a living, but when Jonathan Ross does it for a joke/dare, you don't?

And I personally would never regard Wikipedia as the last word in internet insight.

Neither would I. But I will use it to support a widely held view that I've heard from several people over the years, namely that Paul Ross is a bit of a laughing stock when it comes to film reviews, and that his brother is pretty good on Film 2007. You're honestly the first person I've ever met that had it the other way round.

Still, each to his own I guess

Sorry, but I will stand by my belief that Jonathan is a less equipped reviewer than his brother Paul. Jonathan Ross is a great film fan. But - as last night's BAFTA ceremony proved - film fans don't always make the best presenters. Jonathan - no stranger to fronting big award ceremonies - died on his behind last night.

He is fine on FILM 2007, but that show presents itself. And if his verbal delivery when reviewing films on that show doesn't smack of an over-pleasing sixth former at a speech ceremony then I don't know what is.....!

Edited by Zorin Industries, 12 February 2007 - 04:38 PM.