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[Tarl_Cabot]

well? I think a Bond film in just a year from now would be just as big as it would in '08. Craig is a hit and CR's ending leaves unfinished business for 007... Are they(Eon) kicking themselves now for not getting it off the ground for the special(marketing dream) 2-007 release date?

thoughts?

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

To be blunt...yes.

But I don't mind wating 2 years really...no need to rush it.

[Johnboy007]

Personally, I think it would be pretty lazy marketing.

[Tarl_Cabot]

I do mind. I wanna see Bond 22 ASAP! I was ok with May 2008 because they were planning to bring Bond back to the summer, where he belongs but in 2007 would have been awesome. Ah sigh, at least they'll make a better movie with more time to develop the script(one hopes as this assumption was proven false with DAD ).

[Mister Asterix]

[mra]What? You mean and not have a film for the Centennial of Ian Fleming

[Tarl_Cabot]

uh, I think the 2007 thing maybe 'lazy marketing' but why be so vigorious when the table is set for you so perfectly?

I don't really care about IF's birthday as much...I'd rather have the DVD of '22 do a big B-daything for him instead.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

[quote name='Mister Asterix' post='658602' date='28 November 2006 - 19:57']
[mra]What? You mean and not have a film for the Centennial of Ian Fleming

[The Richmond Spy]

I don't think they blew it because I'm hoping that Bond 22 will have similar success whenever its released.

There were a lot of pros (capitalize on the potential CR success, further establish Craig as Bond with his 2nd film, 007 in '007) and cons (rush the film, risk of Craig not doing well in CR, etc.) with a 2007 release that probably equalized each other and two years has been the norm for the series...so 2008 it is.

Edited by The Richmond Spy, 28 November 2006 - 08:02 PM.

[dee-bee-five]

well? I think a Bond film in just a year from now would be just as big as it would in '08. Craig is a hit and CR's ending leaves unfinished business for 007... Are they(Eon) kicking themselves now for not getting it off the ground for the special(marketing dream) 2-007 release date?

thoughts?

It's just numbers. Nothing but numbers...

[DamnCoffee]

I think theres a very strong possibility that this will happen, some audiences would have probably forgotten the end of CR altogether, Eon will probably rush Bond 22 because of that, I think it wil be much better if the CR end scene was played again at the start of Bond 22, this gives the audience a recap of whats happened, Eon wouldn't have to rush Bond 22 and the release date will be still scheduled for 2008

[Scottlee]

I don't think it would have made much (if any) difference to the box office figures if CR had come out in 2007. Did people think "Oh! Omen is out on a spooky 6.6.06 date! Let's go see it!". Did they buggery!

[RJJB]

Bond 22 may not be out until 2008, but the Casino Royale DVD will definitely be released in 2007. And the packaging can be marked in such a way to highlight the date, so everyone who wants to make the connection with the year can do so.

[Emma]

I don't think they blew it. They did not know the film was going to be a success. And for them to have a May 2007 release date, then they would have had to have rushed back into production before CR was released. I know or at least understand that the next two films are already mapped out and flow into each other. I would rather they take their time in putting out the next film.

[Bondian]

How about they included a mini Bond film from the outtakes on the DVD release!!!. Better still. Make a full feature with all the Bond from unreleased material that they evidently have.

[Qwerty]

I initially thought they would be missing out if they skipped over 2007, but now I see it probably makes very little difference.

[killkenny kid]

It would have been nice. But, after CR it's no big deal.

[RevolveR]

I think that James Bond should be returning in 2007, but it can wait I suppose.

[License To Kill]

Yeah they are missing the boat in regards to unbelievable marketing programs that could coincide with 2OO7, but just make it comparable with CR, please.

[kevrichardson]

2008 is the centennial of Ian Fleming birth . With a new book coming around that time and a new Craig/Bond film . i am sure that Sony/EON will find a way to tie each together .

[Double-0-Seven]

I think the whole 2-007 thing is a little cheesy. I personally don't mind waiting until 2008. It still beats waiting four years.

[stamper]

They better make sure their new movie is as good as CR if not better.

I just rewatched DAD, and I had suddenly had shivers, the very same team produced this and CR, and DAD look like it's 10 years old it have aged so fast.

[Zorin Industries]

Does a date on the bottom of a poster matter more than the content and quality of the film?

How about they included a mini Bond film from the outtakes on the DVD release!!!. Better still. Make a full feature with all the Bond from unreleased material that they evidently have.

Wasn't that NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN...?

They better make sure their new movie is as good as CR if not better.

I just rewatched DAD, and I had suddenly had shivers, the very same team produced this and CR, and DAD look like it's 10 years old it have aged so fast.

Regarding your signature young Stamper...

THE PROPERTY OF A LADY was used in OCTOPUSSY both physically and metaphorically. While the Algerian love knot could no doubt be a clue and lead for Bond in BOND 22 (and obviously the property of a lady) and whilst it is a great title, Eon are using something completely different for Craig's next film's moniker.

[stamper]

I know, I'm just having fun. If it's not that title, I'll change my sig, if it is, I will gloat and gloat and gloat

[Zorin Industries]

I know, I'm just having fun. If it's not that title, I'll change my sig, if it is, I will gloat and gloat and gloat

Fair enough Stamper,

It's still a great title - and maybe one they underused or under-referenced in OCTOPUSSY.....

Regards

Zorin

[Simon]

Did they blow it by not releasing '22 in 2007?, in light of CR's success?

Oh sure. The success of the whole series is predicated on getting a movie in 2007.

Really, The Omen on 6.6.6. I mean who really gave a ? Is the everlasting memory of that film the release date or that it wasn't too successful?

And where would they use the 2007 marketing ploy - just on the teaser poster?

I'm glad that it Isn't to be released in 2007, now they can just crack on with making another successful film.

[EWKDSMB]

no they didn't blow it. i mean they had to see what reaction to CR was first. Also we do not want a rushed script and production.

besides people with Pinewood becoming a cinder box if they were in the middle of filming bond 22,filming would have been inteupted and release dtae would have been pushed back.

correct me if i am wrong, but is that not the reason that instead of early 2008 bond 22 is now late 2008

[Death for breakfast]

I don't think they blew it at all. I would rather wait 2 years for what will hopefully be a better movie than wait a year and watch a film where it seems like it was rushed and could have better. Plus Bond 22 would have some tough competition at the box office with the new Spiderman, Pirates of the Carribean, Shrek, Die Hard, Fantastic Four, Harry Potter, Rush Hour, and Jason Bourne sequels all also being released in 2007. In my opinion it was best that they waited till 2008.

[Stylo]

While the Algerian love knot could no doubt be a clue and lead for Bond in BOND 22 ...

Ooooh, maybe a film partially set in Algeria? I love desert stories.

[RazorBlade]

Bond 22 may not be out until 2008, but the Casino Royale DVD will definitely be released in 2007. And the packaging can be marked in such a way to highlight the date, so everyone who wants to make the connection with the year can do so.

Brillant! I wanted a new Bond film for IF's 100th birthday myself but this makes sense too.

[Double-Oh Agent]

What really ruined the 2007 release date was the seemingly never-ending sale of MGM which took up much of 2004 and 2005. That kept EON and company from getting started on Bond 21 and getting it out for a 2005 release. Had such a film come out in 2005, then that would have made a 2007 Bond release not only possible, but likely. On top of the MGM sale putting a halt to things was the drawn out Bond #6 search. Those two things combined to put the kibosh on a 007 film in 2007.

Personally, I would have loved to have seen 007 in 2007, which would have been a once in a millenia opportunity and great fodder for the P.R. department. Ultimately, however, releasing Bond 22 in 2007 does not guarantee a quality or successful film--particularly the year after the previous release. Neither does waiting an extra year, but having two years between films has been proven to work and certainly can't hurt.

Had EON (read Purvis and Wade) really started the Bond 22 script back when Craig was announced as the new Bond as was originally mentioned, a 007 film in the fall/winter of 2007 was perfectly possible and feasible (but likely without Martin Campbell at the helm). However, it is now apparent that either the Purvis & Wade script was no good or was unfinished or was never started at the time of Casino Royale's post-production. As a result, that made having a fall 2007 Bond film no longer a possibility. Cie la vie. Regardless, hope springs eternal for a rousing Bond 22 edition that can somehow rival Casino Royale.