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[DamnCoffee]

She was cold

[Bon-san]

During the chase/fight on the crane in Madagascar, it was too obvious that a stunt double was being used in some scenes. I don't look for these kinds of things. I like to have my disbelief suspended. But I had flashbacks to the Moore era! Every Bond actor has had scenes in which close inspection reveals the use stunt doubles. But the later Moore era was egregious--the stunt guys always wore these ill-fitting, unconvincing reddish-blond wigs. Craig's double on the crane had hair that was a bit too reddish. And he didn't look enough like Craig.

Don't slay me for nitpicking. It was my subsconscious mind at work.

[Dr. Noah]

When Vesper comments on Bond's "perfectly formed " she hasn't seen it yet. Bond was already sitting when she came in.

[DamnCoffee]

After Bond wins Le-chiffre he says to Leiter "He's all yours" Felix goes to get Le-Chiffre but the next time we see Le-Chiffre he's pulling Bond out of the crashed DBS so where did felix go?

Plus how did Bond know Mathis was behind everything, one minuite Bond is sitting at a dining table and the next thing theres a sudden outburst of "MATHIS"?

[marktmurphy]

During the chase/fight on the crane in Madagascar, it was too obvious that a stunt double was being used in some scenes. I don't look for these kinds of things. I like to have my disbelief suspended. But I had flashbacks to the Moore era! Every Bond actor has had scenes in which close inspection reveals the use stunt doubles. But the later Moore era was egregious--the stunt guys always wore these ill-fitting, unconvincing reddish-blond wigs. Craig's double on the crane had hair that was a bit too reddish. And he didn't look enough like Craig.

Don't slay me for nitpicking. It was my subsconscious mind at work.

Nah- I felt that too: Craig's double just isn't his double. I think it's the wig- the hairline isn't close enough and they have quite different faces. He was also pretty visible in the stairwell fight.

Plus how did Bond know Mathis was behind everything, one minuite Bond is sitting at a dining table and the next thing theres a sudden outburst of "MATHIS"?

Gotta be honest- I didn't get that at all. I don't think Bond is supposed to know Mathis is behind it, just that something doesn't add up. I didn't quite work out what that was.

[Vauxhall]

Plus how did Bond know Mathis was behind everything, one minuite Bond is sitting at a dining table and the next thing theres a sudden outburst of "MATHIS"?

Gotta be honest- I didn't get that at all. I don't think Bond is supposed to know Mathis is behind it, just that something doesn't add up. I didn't quite work out what that was.

Oh I'm glad that someone else mentioned this, I thought I must have been missing something really obvious. Yeah that really confused me too. It seemed perfectly reasonable that Vesper may be called away by Mathis. How was it known that Bond would immediately chase after Vesper to see her 'kidnapped'.

[Head of S]

Plus how did Bond know Mathis was behind everything, one minuite Bond is sitting at a dining table and the next thing theres a sudden outburst of "MATHIS"?

Gotta be honest- I didn't get that at all. I don't think Bond is supposed to know Mathis is behind it, just that something doesn't add up. I didn't quite work out what that was.

Oh I'm glad that someone else mentioned this, I thought I must have been missing something really obvious. Yeah that really confused me too. It seemed perfectly reasonable that Vesper may be called away by Mathis. How was it known that Bond would immediately chase after Vesper to see her 'kidnapped'.

During dinner Vesper received two messages from Mathis. Vesper is assigned to Bond to look after the money. Mathis is Bond's contact. Why would Mathis need Vesper?

[stromberg]

During the chase/fight on the crane in Madagascar, it was too obvious that a stunt double was being used in some scenes. I don't look for these kinds of things. I like to have my disbelief suspended. But I had flashbacks to the Moore era! Every Bond actor has had scenes in which close inspection reveals the use stunt doubles. But the later Moore era was egregious--the stunt guys always wore these ill-fitting, unconvincing reddish-blond wigs. Craig's double on the crane had hair that was a bit too reddish. And he didn't look enough like Craig.

Don't slay me for nitpicking. It was my subsconscious mind at work.

Nah- I felt that too: Craig's double just isn't his double. I think it's the wig- the hairline isn't close enough and they have quite different faces. He was also pretty visible in the stairwell fight.

Plus how did Bond know Mathis was behind everything, one minuite Bond is sitting at a dining table and the next thing theres a sudden outburst of "MATHIS"?

Gotta be honest- I didn't get that at all. I don't think Bond is supposed to know Mathis is behind it, just that something doesn't add up. I didn't quite work out what that was.

Gotta agree on the stunt double. you can see him in 'Bond On Set' (if it's the same guy). It's not necessarily the hairline, it's just that he's, well, too blonde.

Mathis: Bond knew that someone has betrayed him with the tell. And only three people knew about that: himself, Vesper and Mathis. Not willing to believe that it could have been Vesper (he wouldn't dream of it) - he came to the conclusion that it had to be Mathis. The penny dropped a bit late, maybe. But after the tension of the game and the triumphant win, this would have been the first moment that his brain started working properly again, et voil

[Skudor]

When Vesper comments on Bond's "perfectly formed " she hasn't seen it yet. Bond was already sitting when she came in.

In her next sentence she quips that even accountants have imaginations - i.e. she imagines he has a nice back side.

This isn't really a mistake as such, but I can't figure out how Vesper knows what to do with the defibrilator in the Aston. She immediately knows what the problem is and what to do...

[Concord]

I noticed the camera crew reflected in a glass window when Bond follows Vesper at the bank. DC exits the frame and the shot holds for a split second afterwards.

[sharpshooter]

I am concerned about this one:

When Bond first gets into his Aston Martin outside the Casino Royale, the driver's door is open. Then the shot cuts and the door is closed

People who have seen the film, is it obvious, or would you really have to look to see it?

[Skudor]

I am concerned about this one:

When Bond first gets into his Aston Martin outside the Casino Royale, the driver's door is open. Then the shot cuts and the door is closed

People who have seen the film, is it obvious, or would you really have to look to see it?

Not to me. I haven't got a clue what they're talking about. I sure didn't notice.

[Bond... Raybond]

The biggest goof to me was the inhaler - Le Chiffre leaves the table, and with Mathis for cover, inserts a bug in the inhaler. Le Chiffre then goes back to his room, but never returns to the table to collect the inhaler.

Yet when Bond is in the lift with Vesper, he uses a phone to check on, presumably, the bug.

Maybe I've missed something. I noticed it on the first viewing and so kept an eye out on the second viewing.

Have I missed something, or is a continuity error?

[Vauxhall]

Hmm I thought he did pick the inhaler up again. Perhaps I'm mistaken though

Several more apparent mistakes are listed here at MovieMistakes.com

[stromberg]

Have I missed something, or is a continuity error?

I think it was Kratt who picked it up for him.

[Charles Gray]

a new one for you...

unless I am very confused, Bond is sh**ing Solange at 11pm (you can see his watch), then gets info that Dimitrios is off to Miami. He follows him there and goes to the Bodyworks exhibition, which has a poster saying open 24/7, so no problem with plausibiliy there. By now it must realistically be 1:00 am earliest. He then trails Dimitrios' contct to Miami international airport. Call it 1:30am.

The airport is suspiciously busy for that time of nicht, don't you think? There would be no Virsgin Atlantic flights takign off at that time.

[Vauxhall]

I assumed that the airport was busy due to the unveiling of the Skyfleet plane later that day.

[marktmurphy]

a new one for you...

unless I am very confused, Bond is sh**ing Solange at 11pm (you can see his watch), then gets info that Dimitrios is off to Miami. He follows him there and goes to the Bodyworks exhibition, which has a poster saying open 24/7, so no problem with plausibiliy there. By now it must realistically be 1:00 am earliest. He then trails Dimitrios' contct to Miami international airport. Call it 1:30am.

The airport is suspiciously busy for that time of nicht, don't you think? There would be no Virsgin Atlantic flights takign off at that time.

That's a very good point. And why's the jet being unveiled at such a time? They could be setting up, but there are an awful lot of people about as we see when they run away from the oncoming tanker. And does Miami airport open 24 hours a day? Most airports I know wouldn't be allowing a 747 to land past 1am.

How come Dimitiros' phone can be used to call the Miami Airport terrorist, despite the message Bond viewing having been sent to the bombmaker in Madagascar (with the 19.12 time signature)?

[Vauxhall]

How come Dimitiros' phone can be used to call the Miami Airport terrorist, despite the message Bond viewing having been sent to the bombmaker in Madagascar (with the 19.12 time signature)?

Yup I noticed that on first viewing too. I think that is clearly a mistake. Can think of no credible explanation.

[bond_girl_double07]

After Bond wins Le-chiffre he says to Leiter "He's all yours" Felix goes to get Le-Chiffre but the next time we see Le-Chiffre he's pulling Bond out of the crashed DBS so where did felix go?

Plus how did Bond know Mathis was behind everything, one minuite Bond is sitting at a dining table and the next thing theres a sudden outburst of "MATHIS"?

Gasp! Where did the so-called brother from Langley go?

I did notice the lack of FL for the rest of the film, but where was the proposed backup?

[Vauxhall]

Agreed that I'm confused that Felix and the CIA suddenly disappeared!

Also, Bond has Vesper's phone in his pocket when he dives into the canal to try and rescue her in Venice. It seemed to survive the water very well and didn't get too damaged by the time he reads her messages.

[stamper]

I think maybe Leiter was killed by Le Chiffre, but the producers backed up at the last minute and cut the scene. How was the script ? If someone would privately email it to fellows on this board, perhaps that would answers a few questions...

[Vauxhall]

I think maybe Leiter was killed by Le Chiffre, but the producers backed up at the last minute and cut the scene. How was the script ?

The character of Leiter wasn't in the script draft, but there is no mention of Le Chiffre killing the equivalent character Wolpert.

[stamper]

Thanks, seems to be a major plot hole to be filled

[pgram]

In miami airport, bond goes to take his coat off and the next scene he has it back on.

Actually, he takes it off to go through the x rays. Presumably, he put it on right afterwards.

The thing about the ellipsis message: Bond examines Dimitrios sent messages and sees the message. Why can't it be the message sent to Mollaca and not to the other guy in Miami airport? That way, he makes sure that it was Dimitrios who organised Ellipsis (by that time, Bond is not sure about that), and so, presumably, since Mollaca was killed, and therefore failed to realise ellipsis, Dimitrios should have to find someone else do the job. Hence, the keys left on the casino table.

This could make it plausible, although I think you are right, it is a mistake.

Completely agree with the car door and the obvious stuntmen.

As far as the perfectly formed a** is concerned, it was a joke. Of course she could not have seen it before but it doesn't matter. Just like the tailored dinner suit: surely noone can provide the measurements of someone just by looking at him, but it is an easy and playful way to say what they wanted to say, without making a big fuss about it.

Agree about the bug, it is not obvious when Le Chiffre takes it. Agree with the Mathis problems as well. How would he know where the chip in Bond's arm was? Just because he is his contact doesn't mean he knows all the technical details.

But these are just minor things.

The biggest implausibility was the main story itself. Surely, during the cold war, when one spy has problems with his employers he defects. But still, I don't get why MI6 or CIA would not just arrest a banker, when they know he is financing international terrorists. Why did he have to defect? You just arrest him, take him to Guantanamo and he 'll give you not only the names of the terrorists, but their phone numbers, their addresses and their favourite TV programs. In the film, it is never implied that there is no evidence about his guilt. But even if there wasn't any, they could find other ways.

I think that is why they explained the plan very briefly, partly during a voice-over, so that noone would have the time (or intention) to think about it.

Still, a very good movie. Definitely a lot better than the last four!

Edited by pgram, 28 November 2006 - 03:06 PM.

[Vauxhall]

The thing about the ellipsis message: Bond examines Dimitrios sent messages and sees the message. Why can't it be the message sent to Mollaca and not to the other guy in Miami airport?

That was how I tried to explain it to myself also, but then I realised that it doesn't work because Bond called the number to which the message was sent and Carlos picked up.

[steve234]

My wife caught a minor mistake in CR (a very minor one).

In the scene where Vesper is lying tied up on the road and Bond flips that gorgeous car (I think he made the wrong choice by the way - just kidding) - in the scene where the car is begins to flip Vesper is lying on the left side of the road (according to the direction the car is traveling in) - she is to the left of the center line. In the long shot where the car is flipping over and over, the girl is clearly lying on the right side of the road (to the right of the center line). You can see this even in the trailer if you want to review this.

Regards

I spotted a big mistake. It was right at the start and lasted about 2 and a half hours.

[pgram]

The thing about the ellipsis message: Bond examines Dimitrios sent messages and sees the message. Why can't it be the message sent to Mollaca and not to the other guy in Miami airport?

That was how I tried to explain it to myself also, but then I realised that it doesn't work because Bond called the number to which the message was sent and Carlos picked up.

I agree. That's why in my previous post I said that it probably was a mistake.

[mcsearg]

The biggest goof to me was the inhaler - Le Chiffre leaves the table, and with Mathis for cover, inserts a bug in the inhaler. Le Chiffre then goes back to his room, but never returns to the table to collect the inhaler.

Yet when Bond is in the lift with Vesper, he uses a phone to check on, presumably, the bug.

Maybe I've missed something. I noticed it on the first viewing and so kept an eye out on the second viewing.

Have I missed something, or is a continuity error?

I caught this one on my first viewing. Bond places the bug, turns around and starts speaking to Mathis. If you look in the background, you see Le Chiffre pass by and pick up the inhaler. It happens almost immediately after Bond places the bug, which had me thinking Le Chiffre knew there was a bug planted. He gave Bond a sidewyas glance as he passsed by... Who knows...Bottom line is that he picked up the inhaler, no error here..

Edited by mcsearg, 28 November 2006 - 03:04 PM.

[Mister Asterix]

After Bond wins Le-chiffre he says to Leiter "He's all yours" Felix goes to get Le-Chiffre but the next time we see Le-Chiffre he's pulling Bond out of the crashed DBS so where did felix go?

I recall Felix saying that his guys were picking up Le Chiffre in the morning.