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Moore's physical appearances, changing throughout his films.


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#1 Spurrier

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 03:53 PM

How do you think Rog's physical appearances held up throughout his Bond films?

Obviously, I believe he looked best in LALD. But he also looked fit and trim in TMWTGG.

I felt that the 3-year interval to TSWLM found Roger aging somewhat more than the 3 years. But he still looked good. With Moonraker, it appeared that he put on a little weight yet still had that boyish look to play Bond.

It was in FYEO when Rog looked like an "elder statesman" playing Bond. This is when one could refer to him as "Uncle Rog". However, because of maybe good genes or something, the 53 year-old Moore looked at least 5 years younger and thus still believable.

It was in Octopussy when he really began to put on the weight and when the wrinkles were more obvious. And in AVTAK, he looked very pale.

All in all, he held up pretty good...better than Connery, IMHO.

#2 Tarl_Cabot

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 04:01 PM

He was an attractive man who got a little too old for the job. I still enjoyed him in OP.

#3 crheath

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 04:10 PM

The one physical change I noticed was between Octopussy and View to a Kill. He clearly had some kind of plastic surgery done. Whatever it was, it made him look worse.

#4 David_M

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 04:20 PM

When I was a kid, I was convinced Roger had a portrait in his attic that did the aging for him. He was in vintage black and white "Saint" episodes on TV and in the (then) current Bonds and to me he looked as fabulous in one as the other.

Then came FYEO and the scene leading up to the ski jump, where Roger's whole face was covered except his neck, which showed (gasp!) a "wattle." My world shattered. :)

Nonetheless, my affection for Roger, combined with his screen appeal, kept him looking great to me until AVTAK (where something weird happened). Looking back, I can see where he was showing his age at various points, but at the time I wasn't so critical.

Personally I think his "schtick" was more tired than his appearance, and that's what really did him in.

#5 00Twelve

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 06:21 PM

I think his peak appearance was TMWTGG. The tan aided that. I also liked his early hair better. His LALD-TSWLM/MR hair. Not swept back.

Also, I think it didn't help him in FYEO having Carole Bouquet at 22 and even the plot point of Bibi being a generation younger than him. Although he didn't look bad during the coral-dragging sequence.

#6 stamper

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 06:23 PM

I know several Bond fans who swear Roger had a lifting, and removal of the mole on his left cheek, before AVTAK. For sure, that mole have disappeared (he had it since ages), and his face looks less wrinkled than in Octopussy. Anyone noticed ?

PS : we are really a sad bunch of people don't you guys think ? LOL

#7 FlemingBond

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Posted 23 November 2006 - 03:33 AM

He held up a lot better than Connery. 51 in Moonraker. Best 51 i've seen.

#8 TheSaint

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Posted 23 November 2006 - 05:10 AM

Nonetheless, my affection for Roger, combined with his screen appeal, kept him looking great to me until AVTAK (where something weird happened).

The weird thing that happened, besides his mole being removed, was that he had the flu during the filming of AVTAK. He lost weight and the clothes that were tailored to fit him pre-flu hung on him after the flu. He got over the flu during filming & regained the weight he had lost. Because of this he looks better in some scenes than in others.

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Posted 23 November 2006 - 06:12 PM

He held up a lot better than Connery. 51 in Moonraker. Best 51 i've seen.



51 in Moonraker?!

:P


Jee he DID look good for his age!

:)

#10 Mr Woodpigeon

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Posted 23 November 2006 - 06:50 PM

Wasn't he 58 or so in AVTK?

#11 Lady Templar

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 11:02 AM

Roger Moore was born in 1927, so he was 58 in 1985.

#12 Scottlee

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 11:18 AM

Roger Moore was born in 1927, so he was 58 in 1985.


His birthday is in October though isn't it? If that's the case then he wouldn't have been 58 until after filming climaxed.

#13 Lady Templar

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 11:56 AM

Yes, it's on October 14.

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 01:15 PM

I think Roger always looked great besides being an incredibly handsome man he had ,has!,an irresistible charm and charisma to boot
obviously during the course of 12 years everyone ages , but Roger ,as well as Sean,aged better than most people in the planet!!!
though he does looked different in avtak, I wish I look that good at 57.
My only regret is that avtak didn`t play up the fact that 007 was a senior citizen in the story ,I mean bond having to put up with the years of the 007 lifestyle in the vein of the early scenes in nsna, as Sean did.
I believe that with Roger`s wit and humor he could have pull it off

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 08:31 PM

Roger apperance changed drastically over the course of his films..but 12 years is a long time for anyone. I agree that he looked his best in the first 2 Bond films, I think he was more fit in TMWTGG than in LALD but it can't be but a 5-10 pound difference between the films.

In TSWLM Moore had gained a little weight but he still looked good and it wasn't all too obvious. During MR he gained a considerable amount of weight and depending on the camera angle he looks chubby in the body! Roger Moore, though he had a slim face and skinny legs, was always a bit thick in the mid-section even in LALD but by 1979 he wasn't able to hide it as well. In his book for LALD, Roger Moore frequently discussed how he has a tendency to get overweight when he wasn't steadily working and how Harry Saltzman constantly had to keep on him to stay lean and trim before shooting began!

During FYEO he appeared to have lost some of the weight but now the wrinkles are obvious..also he wearing his hair combed back which reveals more forehead and that also made him look a alot older..In his first films Moore haid a dressed up comb-over, and it looked rather good but he may have begun thinning in the back and could no longer pull off the comb-over? In the earlier part of the film Moore is still sporting his older hairstyle and he doesn't look bad (watch the PTS for proof) but in the later parts he has the combed back look! Again, in his book for LALD, Moore also discussed how his hair needed special attention and how pissed he was because Broccoli & Saltzman wouldn't pay for Moore's personal hair dresser!

During Octopussy he had regained all the lost weight and it looked worse for wear now! I almost wonder if he was given time to get himself in shape because I don't know why they'd let him film being that out of shape. His man-boobs are almost as big as Krista Wayborn's! During his first encounter with Octopussy he looks really top-heavy, as well as his jungle scenes. His face is rather round and his skin looks a bit old and craggy...But eh we love Roger so what can you do??? Some will argue but I thought Connery looked far better in NSNA!

AVTAK I do belive he had work done..he may of had the flu and lost weight, though Moore admitted to increased excercise during various promotional interviews. His face looks completely different, sometimes its hard to belive this is the guy from LALD! His face looks gaunt and his eyes look strange..glazed over? His skin looks tight, but loosing weight can do that. With Moore being 57 at the time, I'm inclined to belive there is plastic work done. Plus his hair looks alot more full and bigger which makes me wonder if its a hairpiece? Hiw many 57 year old men have a hair that thick?

Edited by BlackFelix, 29 November 2006 - 08:43 PM.


#16 Lady Templar

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 10:23 PM

Well, Roger Moore had his mole removed, Roger Moore caught a flu, Roger Moore is slim, he has got skinny legs, he has some wrinkles etc ...

So, nothing new !

#17 The Richmond Spy

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 11:03 PM

The LALD Rog looks 7-10 years younger than the DAF Connery, imo.

#18 License To Kill

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 11:45 PM

Roger still looked good in FYEO at the ripe old age of 54, which is pretty darn impressive.

Roger isn't remembered for being the physical Bond and his physique really wasn't an issue to the Bond fans of the time.

#19 ComplimentsOfSharky

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 11:55 PM

I even liked Roger in AVTAK...I mean, he always was the grandpa of the Bonds...it just feel into place with that one...

#20 License To Kill

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 11:56 PM

Yeah, agreed, Sharkey.


The scene in FYEO with Bibi Dahl was borderline inappropriate.

#21 RevolveR

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 12:07 AM

I even liked Roger in AVTAK...I mean, he always was the grandpa of the Bonds...it just feel into place with that one...



When he's sitting in the rocking chair I never know whether to laugh or cry!

#22 4 Ur Eyez Only

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 12:10 AM

I would say Roger held up the best, he was the only one not to get fat or just out of shape.

#23 stamper

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 08:23 AM

Definetly a hairpiece in AVTAK, and even on the 25th anniversary special.
I don't like Moore Bond movies, but I like the guy, he makes them watchable.

#24 Mr Teddy Bear

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 08:44 AM

I'm not buying the hair piece idea. Even recent pictures of him show he has a fairly thick head of hair (for his age).

http://upload.wikime..._Moore_2002.jpg

#25 stamper

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 09:04 AM

He has less hair in the John Cork documentaries, if I'm not mistaken ?

#26 David_M

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 01:38 PM

His man-boobs are almost as big as Krista Wayborn's!


OMG, Kristina Wayborn has man-boobs?!! :) I thought that was Tula.

I almost wonder if he was given time to get himself in shape because I don't know why they'd let him film being that out of shape.


Not that I'm agreeing with your assessment necessarily, but I think Roger's signing was a real last-minute thing on "Octopussy." So it's quite possible he didn't have time to work out. Or he may have even had it written into his contract: "No working out this time. It makes me sweat." :P

With Moore being 57 at the time, I'm inclined to belive there is plastic work done.


That doesn't work for me, because plastic surgery couldn't be so easily reversed. Not so long after the film I saw Roger on TV (maybe for the Andrew/Fergie wedding coverage?) and he looked much better. And indeed even today he looks good, or certainly as if he's aging naturally. You can always tell when people have had plastic surgery, because they always look WORSE. Why people continue to pay money for lifts is beyond me.

Hiw many 57 year old men have a hair that thick?


I don't know, Keith Richards and Mick Jagger have a lot of hair, and they're what...97, 98 now?

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 02:17 PM

I think that FYEO was the last fil in wich Roger appeared in a good phisical fit. In OP and AWTAK he showed too much is getting too old for the part. I preffered Cubby's gave a change to the franchise at that point, and not after AWTAK, the worst Bond movie, and the worst Moore's performance. Probably they gave up with this decision because of the man called to replace Moore weren't good enough. Who knows?!?! But Cubby's didn't do the switch that Barbara and Michael did with Pierce last year.

#28 stamper

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 02:50 PM

Mick Jagger is certainly an hair transplant, as are Pacino, DeNiro etc...
To think that most men loose their hair, but actors don't because they are a special aryan breed is of course being misled, they just have the time and money to take of their looks. (except Connery of course, who doesn't give tosshhh) I do think Moore is either cleverly hairdressed, or wear something on his last movie. I may be wrong...

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 05:43 PM

David M-

Please don't let cynical approach offend you....Let's be honest, Roger Moore on his worst moment is still better than me on my best! However, aside from the man-boobs comment I do largley belive everything else! There's nothing wrong with that really. I love Roger Moore...I'm sure he's got a thick skin. I mean Connery isn't a picknic either...just watch DAF! Same comments apply.

#30 David_M

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 07:41 PM

David M-

Please don't let cynical approach offend you....Let's be honest, Roger Moore on his worst moment is still better than me on my best! However, aside from the man-boobs comment I do largley belive everything else! There's nothing wrong with that really. I love Roger Moore...I'm sure he's got a thick skin. I mean Connery isn't a picknic either...just watch DAF! Same comments apply.


Oh, I'm not offended. I know Roger aged visibly in the role...at least in the last two films...and there's no point denying it.

I do think it's interesting that Roger was the only actor really allowed to grow old in the role and by all indications it's going to stay that way. His appeal obviously rested on something other than "prettiness," despite what his critics alleged. In fact I think he might've stayed on even longer except for two things: (1) the older he got, the more stunt-oriented the films became, which was a mix that couldn't last and (2) seven films is long enough to get tired of anyone. The same mannerisms and delivery I thrilled to in 1973 had a real "been there, done that" quality 12 years later.

And he did sort of have man-boobs. But Kristina never did. :)