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[Publius]

I'd like to see a revenge-driven Bond 22, but not a la Licence to Kill. Make it more of a "business" revenge mission, with Bond going after and taking down the SMERSH-like agency of CR (presuming there is one). He should be forged into the "blunt instrument" he is by the end of CR, so undoing that in its immediate follow-up would be a grave mistake. There's a lot of room for a deep, philosophical Bond outing that isn't overly "personal" in the usual sense.

[Harmsway]

I agree, Publius. BOND 22, if it is revenge-like, shouldn't be ala LICENCE TO KILL. That's why I cited the DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER pre-titles - sure it's a different tone than what we're going for, but that same idea of Bond relentlessly working his way up the pipleline is what BOND 22 needs.

[AgentPB]

We already had that in LICENCE TO KILL, and redoing it would be extremely shabby. Bond already has a cause for revenge, anyway - it's been given to him in CASINO ROYALE.

Also i think James Bond in America is a very intresting situation.

We've already had that in GOLDFINGER, DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER, LIVE AND LET DIE (which *really* used up the Bond-in-America motif), A VIEW TO A KILL, and LICENCE TO KILL. It's not interesting anymore.

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Yes but this is a reboot so it would not matter if Lieter was in Licence to Kill. And i think the revenge plot should not be as intense as LTK either. Besides i hope it would be more like the book were lieter and got more screen time. Does anyone know if mathis will be in the movie?

And yes bond has done America but not current America, I think it would be intresting to see hiim haave to stop a drug lord in L.A., a really smart one with a college degree in econmics and an ary of body gaurds. We could set it in Canada if that would make it better!

Edited by AgentPB, 14 September 2006 - 09:30 PM.

[Harmsway]

Yes but this is a reboot so it would not matter if Lieter was in Licence to Kill.

Of course it does. Just because the series has been rebooted doesn't mean that it's suddenly okay to redo stories the previous series did. We should see new material - not remakes or retreads.

And yes bond has done America but not current America, I think it would be intresting to see hiim haave to stop a drug lord in L.A., a really smart one with a college degree in econmics and an ary of body gaurds. We could set it in Canada if that would make it better!

That whole concept makes me cringe. Bond is about exoticism - about luxury and foreign lands. Los Angeles isn't exotic - in fact, it's ugly and dull. There are more exotic parts of America, but even so, America is just a boring place to set it.

And "current America" doesn't make the concept feel any more fresh, I think.

[shady ginzo]

I've always been of the opinion that they should show the darker side of the Fleming literature for Craig's tenure, he's a great actor and will perform the "broken down" bond better than we could have expected from Brosnan at least (dalton would also have been good)
I don't think they could get away with making "Live and Let Die 2008" but I do think they can adapt the character's progression from, say, the Second and Third Novel, into the next movie, and over the course of 3 or maybe 4 Craig movies, track his decent into the dark solitude and the suicide mission, ending in a final "revalation" defining Bond's hero status

My idea: and original story which at it's core tells the same story (as far as character is concirned, I don't care about what the villain's scheme is)

[Robert Watts]

Yes but this is a reboot so it would not matter if Lieter was in Licence to Kill.

Of course it does. Just because the series has been rebooted doesn't mean that it's suddenly okay to redo stories the previous series did. We should see new material - not remakes or retreads.

And yes bond has done America but not current America, I think it would be intresting to see hiim haave to stop a drug lord in L.A., a really smart one with a college degree in econmics and an ary of body gaurds. We could set it in Canada if that would make it better!

That whole concept makes me cringe. Bond is about exoticism - about luxury and foreign lands. Los Angeles isn't exotic - in fact, it's ugly and dull.

Not to mention that hardly any 'drug lord' in LA would have a college degree.

[00Twelve]

See, I'm big on the idea of going back through the Fleming novel plots (since so much was changed for the movies and could still be adapted for relevance today), beginning with LALD (with a different title).

[SecretAgentFan]

I guess Mickey and Babs will comb through everything Fleming has written but was not used yet in the films. This will be expanded and turned into a working story.

Obviously, Bond 22 will show the impact that the events in CR had on Bond. Yet, I would prefer him not going on a rampage in order to take revenge. He should be a cool professional doing his job from now on and begin to enjoy himself.

[Thunderfinger]

Bond should go on a rampage against craignotbond in the next one.

[DavidSomerset]

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Not to mention that hardly any 'drug lord' in LA would have a college degree.

Have you not read the fantastic book "Freakanomics"? It has a chapter titled "Why Do Drug Dealers Still Live with Their Moms?".
The chapter goes on to address, and dispel, the conventional wisdom regarding drug dealers, i.e., they are all rich.They do this by describing how Sudhir Venkatesh, a graduate student in Sociology, acquired detailed financial records from a Chicago

[00Twelve]

Well, seeing as the Cali cartel has been practically wiped out, the war on drugs doesn't seem to be the most relevant fight for Bond. Unless it was (another) drugs-for-money-for-arms deal. Bond should continue up the pipeline. Craig should have a story arc "SPECTRE (or SMERSH) style," and there is plenty of "remakable" Fleming material.